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Fat Savea is not facing Kings 2016-03-23 14:21

Started by sharkbok19 REPLIES619 VIEWS· 23 Mar 2016, 15:22
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23 Mar 2016, 15:22
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23 Mar 2016, 15:22#1

Hurricanes head coach Chris Boyd insists that Julian Savea's omission from the squad to face the Southern Kings in Wellington is due to poor form. 

The All Black wing’s form and fitness have come under fire in recent weeks and he hasn't scored a try in the four rounds of this year's Super Rugby competition. The Hurricanes mentor did admit that Savea hasn't been in his best shape.

"It would be fair to say in that month or six weeks post the World Cup, that he probably wasn't as disciplined as he could've been around keeping up some of his work," said Boyd.


All Blacks coach Steve Hansen was less tactful regarding Savea's physical state and described the 25-year-old as  obese and overweight" when he joined the All Blacks last year.


"He (Savea) would be the first person to say that he hasn't been in vintage form, but it's a long season and we've seen touches of what's coming," added Boyd.

"We have a high expectation of Julian every time he takes the field or at the local KFC. It's the same as all the prominent players, the expectation's high."



Teams: 

Hurricanes

15 James Marshall, 14 Cory Jane, 13 Willis Halaholo, 12 Ngani Laumape, 11 Jason Woodward, 10 Beauden Barrett, 9 TJ Perenara, 8 Blade Thomson, 7 Ardie Savea, 6 Vaea Fifita, 5 Mark Abbott, 4 Michael Fatialofa, 3 Jeff Toomaga-Allen, 2 Dane Coles (captain), 1 Chris Eves

Substitutes: 16 Ricky Riccitelli, 17 Loni Uhila, 18 Ben May, 19 Geoff Cridge, 20 Callum Gibbins, 21 Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, 22 Vince Aso, 23 Matt Proctor

Kings

15 Jurgen Visser, 14 Luzuko Vulindlu, 13 Stefan Watermeyer, 12 Shane Gates (vice-captain), 11 Malcolm Jaer, 10 Louis Fouche, 8 Jacques Engelbrecht, 7 Stefan Willemse, 6 CJ Velleman, 5 JC Astle, 4 Steven Sykes (captain), 3 Jacobie Adriaanse, 2 Edgar Marutlulle, 1 Sti Sithole

Substitutes:  16 Martin Bezuidenhoudt, 17 Justin Ackerman, 18 Tom Botha, 19 Schalk Oelofse, 20 Chris Cloete, 21 Kevin Luiters, 22 Elgar Watts, 23 JP Du Plessis

JW
Just_win
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23 Mar 2016, 15:32
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23 Mar 2016, 15:32#2
 It's not the first time he has reported out of shape. AB coaches really put him on a tough training program get him ready for the RWC so he will be in for more of the same. Anyway, he can't play all games in s18 so a break won't do much harm.
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23 Mar 2016, 15:38
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23 Mar 2016, 15:38#3
 Perhaps he could get some tips from fat Frans or fat Alberts on how to be all you can be and still rack up a bunch of MOMs
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23 Mar 2016, 15:40
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23 Mar 2016, 15:40#4
Toughest thing in professional sports is staying at the top of your game, year after year and game after game. Its a mental slog.
Hats off to these blokes - especially the Saffas - who go play overseas in the "off-season" but get themselves up for every Super game (since SA coaches don't know the meaning of rotation), and then the international season. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Mar 2016, 16:08
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23 Mar 2016, 16:08#5
 I have noted that Savea is not up to the standard that we were used to and I have previously remarked that he seems to have slowed down in the off-season and that his handling of balls was not up to standard.   JW is probably right - cracking of the whip is necessary. 
oimatey
Sorry to differ from you - the players on SARU contract may not play more games than 5 without a game off.   Some of the players have had their off-day already - eg De Jager - and some cycles have not started yet - eg De Allende.  
There has been no need to implement the system yet - only four rounds have been completed - but players like Etzebeth, Du Toit and Malherbe would have to have their breaks in the game on 1 April 2016 - but that may be influenced by the bye of the Stormers next week.  
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23 Mar 2016, 19:19
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23 Mar 2016, 19:19#6
That directive came from SARU, not the coaches idea and it was ignored multiple times last year.
Compare our squads with that of the Aussies and NZ'ers and they have far more rotation - benching or giving players a day off on coaches choice. Doesn't mean that a player has to have a game off, but they can come from the bench and play 25 mins instead of 55.

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23 Mar 2016, 19:50
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23 Mar 2016, 19:50#7
 oimatey
There are new contracts in place and igno ring of the requirement is not so easy anymore.  
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24 Mar 2016, 00:20
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24 Mar 2016, 00:20#8
 I always wondered why saffa coaches push players into burn-out even when 'easy' games are in the offing ? What do players think of this ?
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24 Mar 2016, 00:20
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24 Mar 2016, 00:20#9
I find it unbelievable that Mako Vunipola is playing test rugby for England.....not only is he fat, he is crap....its insulting
Same applies to the fat Welsh prop banned for having his fat fingers in the wrong place
How can test coaches be happy with the physical condition of these fat fucks? 
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24 Mar 2016, 00:27
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24 Mar 2016, 00:27#10
 Apparently the pommy press thinks Vunikola is just the bees-chubby-knees !Is that the inappropriately named "Samson" Lee ?
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Saffolk
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24 Mar 2016, 00:34
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24 Mar 2016, 00:34#11
No Lee is not fat......it was the reserve Welsh prop who is even fatter than Mako
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Wardad
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24 Mar 2016, 01:32
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24 Mar 2016, 01:32#12
 Ahh I see ,that is indeed large with girth then.
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24 Mar 2016, 02:14
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24 Mar 2016, 02:14#13
 I always look in shape when I go to the US, the trick is to surround yourself with fatties, it's all relative
Good to see you posting in here again Wardad.
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24 Mar 2016, 03:02
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24 Mar 2016, 03:02#14
 I can see Frans porking up in France where the food is good, but what is Savea's excuse?
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24 Mar 2016, 04:15
#15
24 Mar 2016, 04:15#15
Some might say he has over indulged in Springboks & Wallabies but a n ice leg of lamb with roast potatoes goes down nicely Mozart. 
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24 Mar 2016, 04:53
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24 Mar 2016, 04:53#16
 Hahaha....hoist by my own petard.
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24 Mar 2016, 05:13
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24 Mar 2016, 05:13#17

 ...the same criticism was levelled at Savea last year with some geniuses even calling for him to be dropped from the All Black team before the RWC...

...Savea went on to be the top try scorer at the 2015 RWC..

...way to answer yr critics Jules


...heavily instrumental in NZ's victories was Savea as we kicked yarpy butt and then went on to kick Arstralian butt...I hate it when that happens..


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clevermike
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Mar 2016, 09:42
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24 Mar 2016, 09:42#18
 Brycy
I am afraid that Savea last year did very well - this year he is crap in performances.   I think he over-indulged in lamb roasts, etc over the festive season.   A bit of fat loss would help - I believe.  
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24 Mar 2016, 09:48
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24 Mar 2016, 09:48#19
 ...not so clever mike why would the great Savea want to play against some rubbish SA wooden spooners anyway ...?
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24 Mar 2016, 09:52
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24 Mar 2016, 09:52#20
 brycy
that is not the issue here.   Savea was not up to standard against any team the Hurricanes played this year.   And while I agree there are some crap SA teams in the torunament - the top team is an SA team and one of the crap NZ teams are playing them on Saturday.    
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