Clouds...he has a difference of opinion with her...that's not supposed to be rude, bad taste to discuss some things in public maybe, but not that rude. Somehow our society has become too sensitive on too many issues....more later, watching your Blues kick Cheeef butt.
The genuine reason WHY we do it is BECAUSE WE WANT TO SHARE... we have experienced the beautiful change in our hearts and emancipation of the guilts and baggage we carry all our lives and off load it on God's answer (the Christ/Messiah) who took this away at the cross.
Globalist talking.
Share what with whom.
The gospel is shared by now. The few places on the world wheret it is not shared have no internet connections (and do not seem to be willing to hear as they kill missionaries on sight)
People know by now, it's been generations over generations they have heard the good news. Not a single person who read that player's hateful comments about a vast array of people has not heard that jesus is reborn and saves.
Instead of spreading a message that is already shared, maybe time to focus on training rugby players in SA as it will put an end to that quota policy comedy.
The news is shared, train rugby players. Stop wasting time on what is already achieved, spend time on what is not.
Clauds, it's not about defending Beenz. In essence it's about freedom of speech and expression. I would do the same for Trad and Rooi.
BTW, I don't like the derogatory slurs used for gay people on this site...and I think that was what bothered MO most.
What some seem to be missing here is that there is a huge difference in deriding or insulting someone and disagreeing with someone. Beenz seem to be walking the boundary like a tightrope pro.
Folau did not attack anyone...he gave his opinion on his religion. The question is if RA has the right to prevent him from doing that? Was this prohibition his contract or was the "gag" added later?...And even if it was, is such a gag lawful?
This whole thing has been blown completely out of proportion and is a clear attack on Christian vallues...those values that's in conflict with the progressive agenda.
If this happened to anyone of the Moslem faith, all hell would have broken out from day one.
This is not over by a long shot. No use in continuing the process with RA...this is going to courts.
1. Folau didnt specifically target gays he mentions an array of sinners who unless they repent (change thir course of life) go to "hell". Once again I didnt see the fornicators / adulterers etc having such an outcry... seriousl pathetic idiotic RA and its leadership and dumbass wannabe ex players etc who are clueless to context.
The player has an extensive record of public comments targeting homosexuals. Always as surprising. The internet exists and people still think they can broadcast disinformation when a few clicks away are enough to dismiss.
Four easy occurrences to find:
-opposition to homosexual marriage
-promising hell to homosexuals if they do not repent (earned him a warning)
-despite being warned, posting a video about a guy preaching against homosexuals (among other people) promising them sufferings.
-and finally, that quote that targets various people and due to his record, specifically homosexuals.
SH rugbys forcing rugby to turn professionals now, no economies to sustain their rugby and forced to panhandle to the NH leading to that abomination of league of nations. Because they need the money.
This whole thing has been blown completely out of proportion and is a clear attack on Christian vallues...those values that's in conflict with the progressive agenda.
What progressive agenda.
The guy is a rugby player and such submitted to the rugby code and its values. He feels they do not suit him, fine, he quits.
Guy keeps telling he loves rugby and yet does not share rugby values. He loves the money he makes from playing professional rugby.
Understandingly, rugby values could be hard to get for SA rugby, that taint that has been existing on rugby.
Not a single talent from SA major populations. NH have been churning black talents for years now. SA zero.
Clauds, it's not about defending Beenz. In essence it's about freedom of speech and expression. I would do the same for Trad and Rooi.
Freedom of speech must be free. Free speech is self sustainable.
U20 WC is going, it will be another field day, another exhibition of the disgrace named SA rugby.
Termination of rugby is coming to SA and it will come before jesus comes back.
My guess is she is a brain washed globalist very happy diversity is destroying her once great country, a country where, if things don't change because of people like her she will be in a minority as the country is handed over to invaders and she finds herself in a burka and finly beheaded for defending gays. Moan needs to think about things more deeply than the globalist MSM allows her too.
Globalist work: trying to convince people they do not exist.
Christianity is globalization.
SA was less diverse before the lots that were ancestors to white people who occupy the land right now robbed the country from the lawful and legitimate owners. Same for Australia.
SA is a globalist ploy. SA is a product of globalization. The former regime served globalization even more than the current one.
Globalist work: like satan, trying to convince people they do not exist by calling non globalists globalists.
Hahahahaha sharktwit saying I have no understanding of the morals of the Bible.
This is the jackass who told everybody Christ was crucified on Christmas day. BWHAHAHAHAHA HAHA what a very ignorant mampara.
Well Sharkbok at least I know God condemns homosexuality and I of course agree with God's verdict rather than the opinions of a few pervs.
What poor sharktwit thinks all this has to do with Apartheid only the dunce knows.
Reminds me of all those half baked globalist dupes trying to smear America's greatest President - and making no sense and no progress. Their credibly is in the sewer. Hahahahahahahahaha.
Welcome back Trad...you should consider rebranding yourself as the Confusionist.
Sob so there are upset snowflakes leaving en masse because Beeno has a point of view they don't agree with. Don't know who these poor dears are but surely they don't belong on a rugby website where freedom reigns. Best join the ladies knitting club! Bwahahahahahahahaha
Nope sharktwit you buffoon we enjoy our freedom of speech here and cant really offer any apologies to the PC thought police and their ingrained, brain dead, dictatorial, fascist tendencies.
No apart from a safe space for sniffling snowflakes cant suggest anything.
Hope Folau keep going as maybe the snowflakes would leave hahahahahahahahahahaha. that would be hilarious!
Shark, are you sure they are not leaving as a result of your constant mocking? You do know that your views are the most fascist on site....agree with you or be silenced., because you are right and knows what's best for everyone. Stalin would be so proud.
P!SS off, you know nothing about me. This has got nothing to do with Beeno and all with your intolerance. I don't Bible bash anyone. I react to the constant barrage. ..and I go to church plenty.
Oh stop whining and wailing you pathetic dumbass.
You have a mouth like a sewer and then get all teary eyed when you get called out for your BS.
Off to the gay club with you sharktwit I am sure you will get a great reception. Lol!!!
A more sanctimonious half bake would be hard to find.
PS, I can't help it if you are too brainwashed to use discernment...things are not only black and white or right and wrong. There are subtle differences...wake up and start using your brain...I know you are not stupid. Why do you want to force your POV on onthers? You accuse Beenz of doing it, yet you are actually the one trying to silence the opposing view. Can't you see that?
There are 450 million atheists and 2.1 billion under the Christian banner.
You are a small fringe element of absurd loons. Most people - BWHAHAHAHAHA what a funny little man you are.
Lots, the Atheists will be livid !
NEWSCATHOLIC CHURCHTue May 22, 2018 - 11:16 am EST
Australian archbishop convicted of covering up sex abuse, faces two years in prisonCatholic, Crisis In The Catholic Church, Philip Wilson, Sex Abuse Crisis
NEWCASTLE, Australia, May 22, 2018 (LifeSiteNews) – Adelaide Archbishop Philip Wilson is now the highest-ranked Catholic prelate to have been convicted of covering up sex abuse. The Australian archbishop, who is in the early stages of Alzheimer’s, faces two years in prison.
He will be sentenced on June 19. Wilson was the chairman of the Australian Catholic Bishops Conference in the early 2000s, as the Church’s homosexual pedophile priest crisis was beginning to unfold.
“In April 2018, [Wilson] was charged of concealing child sex abuse committed by Fr. James Fletcher during the 1970s,” International Business Times reported. “Witnesses said they complained to Wilson of the abuse but he failed to follow up.”
Two altar boys allegedly told Wilson about being molested by Fletcher, who was convicted of nine counts of child abuse in 2004 and died in 2006.
Wilson, an assistant priest at the time, maintains he didn’t know about the abuse.
“During his trial, the archbishop said no one had ever come forward to tell him of allegations of child sex abuse during his 40 years as a clergyman,” the Australian Broadcasting Corporation reported. “Wilson's legal team made four attempts to have the case thrown out, arguing it was not in the public interest and that his diagnosis of Alzheimer's should preclude him from trial — although it did not preclude him from retaining his position in the church.”
According to the Associated Press, one of the altar boys allegedly told Wilson about it in the confessional. Priests risk excommunication for revealing anything said to them in the confessional.
The Catholic Church teaches that the seal of confession is an essential part of that sacrament, so that people can freely confess their sins and be forgiven. The seal of confession has become an issue in some parts of the world, including Australia, where some want Catholic priests to reveal things heard in Confession if related to sex abuse.
“Given the delicacy and greatness of this ministry and the respect due to persons, the Church declares that every priest who hears confessions is bound under very severe penalties to keep absolute secrecy regarding the sins that his penitents have confessed to him. He can make no use of knowledge that confession gives him about penitents' lives,” the Catechism of the Catholic Church instructs (CCC 1467). “This secret, which admits of no exceptions, is called the ‘sacramental seal,’ because what the penitent has made known to the priest remains ‘sealed’ by the sacrament.”
“I am obviously disappointed at the decision published today,” said Wilson. “I will now have to consider the reasons and consult closely with my lawyers to determine the next steps.”
Australian Cardinal George Pell is also being tried for allegedly committing sexual abuse himself. Half of the charges against him were thrown out earlier this month, but he still faces two separate trials. The charges against Pell have been called a “witch trial.”
Yes saw that. The Ozzies don't like all this LGBT perversion like some pervs here.
Note that the fake globalist pollsters had Labour 8 points ahead.
Makes one wonder how accurate the EU polls are?
There is a growing revulsion rising against the globalists and their fellow traveller's/alliance partners - islamofascists, Marxists and the very perverted P rogressives.
Looking forward to the EU elections!
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As both are gay neither. Gays often try to infiltrate positions where they can prey on children. Gays of course overlap with pedophilia.
Give how consistently homosexuality is condemned in the Bible gay priests are Wolves in sheep's clothing using to position to prey on whosoever they can including children. A more disgraceful situation is hard to imagine.
A gay out of the closet is the better of a bad situation. Thereafter ban them from being able to prey on people.
Pervs like sharktwit need to be noted. Don't leave your kids with sharktwit it's simply too much of a risk. His obvious support for gays makes him deeply suspect.
Fair point Mozart about the Elections in Australia.
Who would have thought Redsman is a Christian and speaking up for CHRIST. Good on you mate - I am pleasantly surprised.
Redsman has always been a decent guy Hacked Waaaugh. Hope you can help school poor Cloudster a bit she keeps going astray!
Election outcome no one relly saw coming... there is big divide between the lefty idealists and balanced realists.
Last night showed the silent majority still have their morals aligned with more conservative values... Its hilarious today reading and watching the lefties whinge and whine...
I think RA and it super PC process will come unstuck and I really really hope Raylene gets sent packing... perhasp to head the AB's up>?
Izzy was clearly the best back in Oz rugby and not replaceable... geniuses at work at RA hey... And yes for the record one of the NSW (togan descent) front rowers busted for DUI... but thats fine mate.....................
https://coupler.foxsports.com.au/api/v1/article/amp/rugby/slumped-behind-the-wheel-wallaby-charged-with-drink-driving/news-story/2280517178a28c346bdb0c6209485e4d
Plays while Izzt sacked.... good one raylene...
Raylene looks like a full on weirdo!! How did such a creature come to head Oz rugby. You must have a bunch of plonkers in charge Redsman
So... as predicted going to supreme court... idiot raelene ...
https://coupler.foxsports.com.au/api/v1/article/amp/rugby/wallabies/israel-folau-eyes-industrial-relations-expert-for-court-move/news-story/01f01d7f6dfb70fa79dae4c0080f0302
By the way Cloudster why in the world should I respect Lady Moan's anti Biblical views.
And o f course I also don't respect your anti Biblical views.
I do however respect Folau presenting God's view on issues and giving a loving warning to sinners who are in danger of perishing. Homosexuality is a perversion. End of story.
Cloudy may I suggest you take God's Word seriously.
Other than being a foolish kiwi bird brain you are very likeable. Athough you need a firm hand and plenty of guidance which thankfully I and other Christians are providing.
Of course there will be a divide so why talk about Folau bringing a divide on this board because he quoted scripture as if he did something wrong. No he did the right thing, 100%, right, and we need more Folau's in the world for sure.
Well said Sharkie……...
It is amazing how the Christians are supposedly anti-gay, but so many of the Church ministers have been exposed as gay. (There are gays drawn to the church, because it's an easy place to hide and escape scrutiny, that does not mean the church is gay) It is the gayest organisation in the world - other than the LGBT. From Arch-bishops at the top all the way to the basic deacons. The Church continues to try conceal this to the public, but it continues to pop up in the media. (You are talking about the Roman Catholic Church and regardless of what some of it's members does, it still does not condone the practice of homosexuality. I agree that it borders on criminal negligence by them covering up pedophilia by any members, regardless of rank.)
So Cloudy thinks a godly role model doesn't share scriptural warnings with the godless. The dear lady never ceases to amaze.
As many as who are born of the Spirit they shall be the sons of God. Personally I cant convert anybody and neither can anybody else. Conversion is something between God and the sinner and requires a supernatural spiritual rebirth. Our role is simply to witness to the Truth as Folau so admirably did.
Draad although Cloudy will not rebuke sharktwits monumental stupidity one can only shake one's head in amazement at his mind blowing ignorance.
Ephesians 4:18
So I tell you this, and testify to it in the Lord: You must no longer walk as the Gentiles do, in the futility of their thinking. 18They are darkened in their understanding and alienated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them due to the hardness of their hearts. 19Having lost all sense of shame, they have given themselves over to sensuality for the practice of every kind of impurity, with a craving for more.
Romans 1:21
they neither glorified Him as God nor gave thanks to Him, but they became futile in their thinking and darkened in their foolish hearts. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools,…
WELL IF THAT DOESN'T SUM UP POOR SHARKTWIT WHAT DOES!!!. A MORE FOOLISH OAK WOULD BE HARD TO FIND!
Beeno you are a sick sod.
You smell of a WHITE SICKO who thinks he knows everything about everything but in fact knows NOTHING ABOUT ANYTHING.
Thats right - I remember now - You are a sick Shithead.
Shark, it's always news if a priest gets caught and everybody knows who the Pope is. Who is the so called LGBT leaders? It's not "newsworty" if a nobody gets caught doing something they shouldn't. It is when it's a church chleric or someone famous....but you are moving goalposts again...talk about low emotional IQ...LMAO!
