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Started by Deus Ex Lemur58 REPLIES1,183 VIEWS· 19 Aug 2023, 12:11
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DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
19 Aug 2023, 12:11
#1
19 Aug 2023, 12:11#1

Irrespective of what the opinions are about the personnel, here's hoping we bliksem the Welsh. Currently in Cardiff, and the atmosphere is fantastic. Prediction: Boks with a win, score by 37.

KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
19 Aug 2023, 12:34
#2
19 Aug 2023, 12:34#2

Me too, this is as close as we can get to our first team, Welsh B team. 

Kolisi will have to put a massive shit in. 

Ox needs a solid stand and so does Hendrikse 

DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
19 Aug 2023, 12:49
#3
19 Aug 2023, 12:49#3

Kolisi will have to put a massive shit in.

In other words, strain hard. I agree. 

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
19 Aug 2023, 14:00
#4
19 Aug 2023, 14:00#4
I can't be excited when DDA and Jessica are there. Mostert isn't a bench player. If he's not starting he shouldn't be there. Rather have a 6.6 muscular monster come in if it's only gonna be for 20 minutes.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,225 posts
19 Aug 2023, 14:36
#5
19 Aug 2023, 14:36#5

Bok Scrum looking strong. 2 penalties earned.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,225 posts
19 Aug 2023, 14:36
#6
19 Aug 2023, 14:36#6

Libok pole kicking is concerning

DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
19 Aug 2023, 14:53
#7
19 Aug 2023, 14:53#7

Wales look ready to be broken in the second half. I anticipate a good few tries on offer in the second half. 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
19 Aug 2023, 15:00
#8
19 Aug 2023, 15:00#8

Laughable penalty try to the Boks and yellow card.

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
19 Aug 2023, 15:10
#9
19 Aug 2023, 15:10#9
I know Moz. The Welsh scrum is nonexistent at this point. Dang...we need someone that can lock at 10.
CR
CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
19 Aug 2023, 15:11
#10
19 Aug 2023, 15:11#10

Got the game but no commentary, what was the ruling for the yellow card?

CR
CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
19 Aug 2023, 15:13
#11
19 Aug 2023, 15:13#11

Knocking it dead in goal with no attempt to catch it?

Wasn't he in the field of play when he knocked it back?

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
19 Aug 2023, 15:15
#12
19 Aug 2023, 15:15#12
Moodie knocked it on first...
CR
CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
19 Aug 2023, 15:24
#13
19 Aug 2023, 15:24#13

That as well. Tough call on the welsh for sure.

KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
19 Aug 2023, 15:25
#14
19 Aug 2023, 15:25#14

Glad to see how kolisi played. Especially tracking back at full pace to run down one of the Welsh hacks. Chased about 40 m to catch a back. Great pace.


CR
CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
19 Aug 2023, 15:26
#15
19 Aug 2023, 15:26#15

Still the welsh not in this so far anyway.

KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
19 Aug 2023, 15:26
#16
19 Aug 2023, 15:26#16

Just hope the boks don't go asleep now

MO
MoonroverPro1,973 posts
19 Aug 2023, 15:37
#17
19 Aug 2023, 15:37#17

Kriel got some gas... or the Welsh guy poor. 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
19 Aug 2023, 15:42
#18
19 Aug 2023, 15:42#18

Snyman picks up Dud and drops him over the line. 

KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
19 Aug 2023, 15:44
#19
19 Aug 2023, 15:44#19

Moodie surely has nailed that 14 jumper down

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
19 Aug 2023, 15:57
#20
19 Aug 2023, 15:57#20

Hard  to see a Wales player today that looks like a WC candidate.

CR
CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
19 Aug 2023, 16:03
#21
19 Aug 2023, 16:03#21

Well if that's red your boy can sleep easy as he will get off no problem now the precedent has been set.

CR
CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
19 Aug 2023, 16:06
#22
19 Aug 2023, 16:06#22

He just needs to ask if he has to blow all 3 on the panel  or just 2.

CR
CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
19 Aug 2023, 16:09
#23
19 Aug 2023, 16:09#23

Any bets the TMO is getting a call right now to keep it as a yellow.

KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
19 Aug 2023, 16:27
#24
19 Aug 2023, 16:27#24

Well done boks, but before we go hooting about this score, just remember, it was a c team. Welsh team were the worst performers in the URC. 

Here is my view. 

Ox had a impact at scrum and general play.

Kleyn and Snyman are definitely in our top 3 locks. No need for Orie. 

Kolisi came through really. Made it up to 40 min. However, hardly ever played a full games, even when he was fit. 

Hendrikse, not sure about him 

Libbok, mixed back. Defence was good, out of hand, passing etc all good. Kicking nope. With two straight kicks completely of target, this should be bread and butter for him 

Dud, dear end runs

Kriel stood out well. Different player to Am but probably better than am at the moment. 

Moodie and Kolbe did really well.

Willie continues to frustrate me. How many high balls did he miss

Kriel played well with Space. 

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Aug 2023, 16:41
#25
19 Aug 2023, 16:41#25

Yes Krei has always been better than some critics here have judged. 

Add Eben into that starting pack and you have a very good 8.

Lots of talent, pace and creativity in tbe backline. Esterhuizen must play against England. 

Du Toit was good once again. 

I hope now some of the oaks can stop being so negative and end the over played drama queen act. Hahahahahahaha. 


KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
19 Aug 2023, 16:44
#26
19 Aug 2023, 16:44#26

Oh, Wiese was nowhere, yet again. Lateral running, no go forward, when he does get over the advantage line gets stripped. 

Interesting to see will be our team next week

CR
CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
19 Aug 2023, 16:44
#27
19 Aug 2023, 16:44#27

Need to find a goal kicker, going to struggle to win the world cup with that shit, did he even crack 50% off the tee?

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,225 posts
19 Aug 2023, 16:56
#28
19 Aug 2023, 16:56#28
This was a nice warmup, but it was without a doubt a B-team for Wales.  

Delande had a good game as a loose forward. 

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
19 Aug 2023, 16:59
#29
19 Aug 2023, 16:59#29
Wales had nothing. Lots of easy scores for the Boks. It's still only the AB scrum that currently seems able to keep up.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
19 Aug 2023, 17:55
#30
19 Aug 2023, 17:55#30

Before the Moody train leaves the station ….7 tackles made and 4 missed. He was also beaten on the high ball several times by his opponent. Not to say he wasn’t very good on occasions.

DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
19 Aug 2023, 18:23
#31
19 Aug 2023, 18:23#31

There were a lot of things exposed. Wales had a lot of good ideas, but are very raw. The WC is a year or two ahead of them. Their first up tackles, inside and outside support, it lacked intent and cohesion. Their scrum was obviously not very good, but a first team lineup beat the Boks scrum up last year. Our scrum is not the best. Neutral on a good day, dominant against an especially vulnerable side. Nothing changes for us. If I were game planning against the Boks for a WC encounter, I'd be very excited about the opportunities they present. 

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
19 Aug 2023, 18:55
#32
19 Aug 2023, 18:55#32
Deus...you'd know where to get the scrum stats for the last two years. Post em, let's see what they say. I only recollect us struggling against the ABs. Over all other sides I have us winning more penalties than we give away. But I'm going on memory. So let's see...
DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
19 Aug 2023, 19:04
#33
19 Aug 2023, 19:04#33

There were a lot of things exposed. Wales had a lot of good ideas, but are very raw. The WC is a year or two ahead of them. Their first up tackles, inside and outside support, it lacked intent and cohesion. Their scrum was obviously not very good, but a first team lineup beat the Boks scrum up last year. Our scrum is not the best. Neutral on a good day, dominant against an especially vulnerable side. Nothing changes for us. If I were game planning against the Boks for a WC encounter, I'd be very excited about the opportunities they present. 

KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
19 Aug 2023, 21:59
#34
19 Aug 2023, 21:59#34

Mozart, yes, the fact none of our guys could catch the high ball really frustrated me too. Moody was also a culprit and it is not th first time that we struggle with our own medicine. Other teams have learned to catch, we didn't. 

Yes he got beaten on the outside but definitely made up by getting his man eventually. I also believe it is the defence system which is more about applying pressure than tackling. 

Don't forget the same press turned over the ball where he literally took the ball out of the Welsh players hands

Well, at least the boks are 4/5 with a rematch against the all blacks

AJ
AJHPro3,183 posts
19 Aug 2023, 22:22
#35
19 Aug 2023, 22:22#35

A poor game for the Welsh "C" team so I will not lay praise on any Bok player until they play in the World Cup.

If Libbok is our first choice #9 we have one major problem before we get to the RWC.

Perhaps he and some others will deliver at the next game prior to the RWC.

I for one am not holding any hope that he will deliver in any of the RWC games.

As far as I am concerned he is yet another Elton.

International rugby is one step above the capabilities of both.


DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
19 Aug 2023, 22:24
#36
19 Aug 2023, 22:24#36

A defensive system relies on discipline, reads, and physicality. Our defence lacks punch and discipline. Erasputin has built the team around fundamentally flawed defenders. On attack, we lack physicality, skill, and gray matter. Wales were very vulnerable structurally, and physically didn't apply intensity. The Boks founder under even moderate pressure. This was a training ground session. Nothing more. Nothing has changed. A nice day out to see for entertainment. That's all.

Wales looked like a team that were trying to think about the implementation of their patterns and structures. It's new combinations, and new systems. For them, this was about finding familiarity under those new conditions, in a live setting. This is why I said before the game, Wales will benefit more from this than us no matter the outcome. It'll only entrench Erasputin into believing in the bad decisions he is making. 

AJ
AJHPro3,183 posts
19 Aug 2023, 22:29
#37
19 Aug 2023, 22:29#37

The Boks game next week will be a true test of their standard against the AB's.

Time will tell if they are capable of a surprise winning result in this years RWC.


DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
19 Aug 2023, 22:45
#38
19 Aug 2023, 22:45#38

New Zealand are known to experiment before a WC. It's twice left Australia with the false belief that they were ready and good before a WC. I'd be cautious about drawing conclusions, depending how the game is approached and the quality of the encounter. If NZ rock up with intent and we suddenly play good rugby, that'll be encouraging. I haven't seen this since the first half of the home test against them in 2018 though. 

MO
MoonroverPro1,973 posts
20 Aug 2023, 06:08
#39
20 Aug 2023, 06:08#39

Risking injuries before the World Cup.... see the damage on France. 

MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
21 Aug 2023, 15:13
#40
21 Aug 2023, 15:13#40
A good moral boosting win for the Boks….Moodie is class, did miss some takles but also made try saving tackles….Libbok was very good at Distributing and that created opportunities to actually score….but his pole kicking has got him totally spooked….RG had a cracker so did Kollisi and Kleyn…Franco also made a good impact with try saving tackles to the end of the game…DDA and Kriel did not have a lot of tough competition thru the Welsh Midfield, but we’re better and Kriel still has pace….in the end of the day this was a B team, so if we can win the AB on Saturday it will put us in a good position going into the WC
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