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Started by Deus Ex Lemur58 REPLIES1,183 VIEWS· 19 Aug 2023, 12:11
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DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
21 Aug 2023, 15:46
#41
21 Aug 2023, 15:46#41

The Boks are far from being in a good position. We don't have a test quality halfback pairing, we aren't featuring a test quality loose trio and even against Wales, we were exposed structurally quite a number of times. Wales simply didn't have the synergy to punish it. 

MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
21 Aug 2023, 16:55
#42
21 Aug 2023, 16:55#42
Well, it can’t hurt us going into the WC with a AB scalp….that willl give a good Confidence Boost…that our structure sometimes looks a bit chaotic is true but there is not much a person can do about it now….it’s not going to change magically….we must just keep on playing Positive Rugby….and against Wales is a positive step up.
DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
21 Aug 2023, 17:07
#43
21 Aug 2023, 17:07#43

So what you are saying is that we should just keep b umbling around and hoping to have teams literally hand us the ball, and flop off tackles easily, whilst gifting us free space as we cannot create anything? Doesn't sound convincing to me. 

CR
CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
21 Aug 2023, 17:15
#44
21 Aug 2023, 17:15#44

So a loss against us will be a utter disaster for your lot then?

I for one aren't reading anything into this game which ever way it goes.

RWC is a whole different  beast, this is like a pre season Super rugby game, means nothing (apart from bragging rights).


MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
21 Aug 2023, 17:30
#45
21 Aug 2023, 17:30#45
Deus no one is saying we should keep on humbling ourselves, but the fact is we have Rassie and co now and there is not much a person can do about it now….he pulls the strings….that being said the win over wales is a positive score and Crusader if we win on Saturday it can only be positive for our self belief and confidence….Beating the AB for any team is Positive, as they are so difficult to beat.
CR
CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
21 Aug 2023, 17:36
#46
21 Aug 2023, 17:36#46

True but what do you read into a loss?

MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
21 Aug 2023, 17:57
#47
21 Aug 2023, 17:57#47
If we loose it will be negative for our confidence … let’s say we do make it out of our pool, we have none other than the AB standing in our way…and whoever wins on Saturday, will have one up in that clash….I know it’s WC, anything can happen, but that’s what I think.
BE
becsPro4,378 posts
21 Aug 2023, 18:26
#48
21 Aug 2023, 18:26#48

It’s Friday night, Mpower. 

If you play on Saturday you’ll be getting in amongst England vs Fiji  

MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
21 Aug 2023, 18:28
#49
21 Aug 2023, 18:28#49
Oops thanks becs : )
BE
becsPro4,378 posts
21 Aug 2023, 18:29
#50
21 Aug 2023, 18:29#50

Anytime, Mpower  

Just been laughing at the thought of four teams trying to play at once ! 

DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
21 Aug 2023, 18:38
#51
21 Aug 2023, 18:38#51

We are looking about performance. Context is key. We haven't played good rugby this year. That's a problem. What good is a warm-up test, if you don't take a step forward. The more games we play, the more confused our coaches appear to be. We have shown no development in our game, at all. New Zealand tends to test out ideas in their last few games of a World Cup. It's lead Australia twice into believing they were better than they were. 

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
21 Aug 2023, 18:42
#52
21 Aug 2023, 18:42#52
Yeah, I agree with NZ tactic. Closing in on a WC you should be testing strategies, not personnel.
MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
21 Aug 2023, 18:49
#53
21 Aug 2023, 18:49#53
Well Deus, wouldn’t you say our game against wales was a bit of a step up?…especially in Cardiff where we have a bad record. Our record this year has not been great but I can see some improvement….but on the other hand we have not beaten a top team yet, that is why Friday,s game is important….when we beat the AB at home before the 2019 WC, it did a lot for our Confidence….the odds are stacked against us, but I think we can pull this off…well I hope so.
DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
21 Aug 2023, 18:59
#54
21 Aug 2023, 18:59#54

No, I would not. A thorough review of the game would reveal quite clearly that we showed no improvement and exhibited many vulnerabilities. As predicted. I'm not a casual Mpower. 

when we beat the AB at home before the 2019 WC, it did a lot for our Confidence

I don't think it did anything at all. We ended the year with a worse record than before, played poorly throughout 2019, and actually lost comfortably to New Zealand in the pool stages, which dropped us to 6th in the rankings. The final itself was the only convincing part of the entire 2019 season, aside from Esterhuizen's masterclass in shackling Australia. 

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
21 Aug 2023, 19:06
#55
21 Aug 2023, 19:06#55
Our record this year hasn't been terrible...unless I missed some matches or am suffering from memory loss, we only lost away to the ABs and dealt with everybody without too much issue.
DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
21 Aug 2023, 19:11
#56
21 Aug 2023, 19:11#56

We played the worst All Black and Wallaby sides of all time, a predictably patchy Puma side, and the worst Welsh effort since the late 90s. What exactly does that say? And to add insult to injury, we haven't played any good rugby at all. The 2002 and 2003 sides would have fared better. This is the worst Bok side that has gone to a world cup. 

MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
21 Aug 2023, 19:17
#57
21 Aug 2023, 19:17#57
That is a big statement….the AB played excellent rugby to beat us the other day and they are by far not the worst AB team…only time will tell what will happen in this WC.
DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
21 Aug 2023, 19:21
#58
21 Aug 2023, 19:21#58

Not really Mpower. They grew in confidence in that game, and they exposed us horribly in that second half in particular, but this All Black side is statistically the worst of all tine. 

MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
21 Aug 2023, 19:23
#59
21 Aug 2023, 19:23#59
“ Irrespective of what the opinions are about the personnel, here's hoping we bliksem the Welsh. Currently in Cardiff, and the atmosphere is fantastic. Prediction: Boks with a win, score by 37. “ and we did Bliksem them, so what are you unhappy about?? Ag no man Deus, it can’t always just be doom and gloom : )
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