Greatest Ever Springbok Scrumhalves

Did not see any scrummies in that video,   AO would not know  scrummies if they hot them in the face,  

Maaik, you somehow watched the wrong video. The one I watched was great. Forgot how good Joost really was...and watching Dawie de Villiers actually reminds me of Joost in a subtle way...haven't seen much of Dawie, so I might be dead wrong.

I rate the scrummies as follows:-

1   Divan Serfontein

2   Dawie de Villiers

3   Joost van der Westhuizen

4   Fourie du Preez

The latter two played a different game plan and was to my mind not as good in thinking on their feet and execution as the first two.   I saw plenty of all four and my impression of what they produced is what caused me to rate them accordingly,   

Duplication

Saf... my only argument would be that Joost had a tendency to throw poor passes more t han the likes of FdP and other international greats.

Though he was pound for pound the best running 9 the world has seen!

Joost v d Westerhuizen, Fourie du Preez and Tommy Gentles.

Divan Serfontein had the advantage of playing with arguably the best bok back-line of all time.

Joost wasn't equipped to win territory battles, and had weakness of his left side. Opponents knew that if they could force him into certain positions they could limit his effectiveness. Du Preez had no such weakness, every aspect of his game was on point, elite. Joost was a very dominant presence though, still top 3 of all time. Like I say, it's Brett Favre to Tom Brady. As for the other 9s? Harder to determine. There was a time where we could have fielded up to 8 different 9s without compromising the team, now we have only one good but flawed one, one that is very good but isn't favoured, and the rest flawed utterly (all wings at heart who cannot pass or kick). 

Yet the flawed ones won the WC - what an idiot this AO is?   

You defeat your own argument Lügnerin. Du Preez was much lauded in the World Cup we won. Not bad for "an idiot think" player. Do try harder old chap 

Edit: Note, the only World Cup wins in which 9 stood out were the 95 and 07 wins. Man, you really do shoot yourself in the foot old boy. Note Joost is on my top 3. Have a nice evening 

You are very interested. I know you stomp your little feet when you don't hear what you like. Clippity clop, he's at it again. Another tantrum. 

The fact you can't keep quiet. Always overly opinionated and profane suggests otherwise. 

Shezza, you err yet again. Morne was exceptional throughout the 2010 campaign at super level and test level, without Du Preez. In fact, that Bull's campaign is one of the best attacking campaigns in super rugby history. No. Morne excelled with a variety of scrumhalves. Du Preez is a legend, the best 9 of all time, but Morne proved that he could deliver without him many times. 

Close call between Joost and Fourie, but to me its Joost, One of the greatest warriors ever seen on a rugby field and the most brilliant running and defending scrummie ever. Lomu was no worry for Joost!

Joost was indeed a warrior. Hence why I liken him to Brett Favre. The similarities are unreal. He had an element of luck about him. A big presence on the field. Haven't fielded many players with such a dominant personality and presence of the field of play. 

Chipping into a crowd of players and being the most likely person to retrieve the ball is an element of luck. Not a bad thing, it's actually a positive. Hence the comparison to Brett Favre, the legendary hard man of Green Bay. Try not to cry next time and read more carefully in future.

Reading your tripe carefully is always a laughing experience - purely because so much of it is total BS,   As to Du Preez he as at times too slow to get and passed the ball; and at times was nowhere to receive balls -  I watched the 2009 RC tests where it happened three times against the AB's leading to massive territory gains by them.   It shows that there were deficiencies in his game and that place him below Joost in the ratings,   Unlike the other scrummies I mentioned  above the game plan changed after 2000 and the scrummies were expected to kick more,   Du Preez's  stringest point was kicking - but he was not the player that would create anything special in games like the other three scrummies did.

So I stay with Dave's and my ratings here,     

Du Preez was too slow to the base? Too slow to pass? 

Joost was most definitely the better defender. I'll give you that, he defended more like prime Frans. That's not to say Du Preez was a scrub, he was exceptional on defence, but Joost was much more physical.

I'm surprised to see Joost so far down the list. He would be my pick at 9 every time.

Du Preez had a good kicking game. Without it he'd have been just another average Joe.

Du Preez has the best pass of any half back in world rugby, better than any other all time great candidate. Most complete 9 of all time. It wasn't beyond Joost to send those awful high balls that have been a staple of the Rassie era. 

Indeed. He had a great pass ... however ... he couldn't match Joost on attack nor on defense.

I would consider him as a replacement on my bench though.

The problem is that Du OPereez should have remained out of the game after 2011 when he retired, but then brought back after the thoughtless Meyer goat at him.  He damaged his reputation after that return,    

Actually, Du Preez was Bok of the 2015 WC. He did no harm to his reputation. You did he was far and slow, but came back in the best shadow of his life. Always wrong. Poor Lügnerin! 

He was average to  poor in virtually all game she played in after 2011 and was an integral part of   the totally crazy game plan of Meyer in  the 2015 WC.   Remember the Japan debacle in 2015?   

Poor game plan? Incorrect. 

Sure it was incorrect -- there was NO game plan at all.