MAMachiavelli
Club Pro323 posts
MAMachiavelliClub Pro323 posts
13 Apr 2016, 11:09#2
Hansen should stick to his own country and his Island problems.
The fact is that the political interference is here to stay and Coetzee will have to just work around that. I still maintain that there are good players who could be "groomed". South Africa has a bigger problem than quotas - the freaking unions all have their own agendas and do what ever they want and play players out of position etc.
Time for a national strategy like the model working in New Zealand.
13 Apr 2016, 11:21#3
Hansen is correct.
Quotas are harmful to everything it touches.
Nothing will change that.
Grooming players is all good and well ... but only at club level.
Don't expect us to support some chump with potential at test level.
That's not the arena to spoon feed anyone.
13 Apr 2016, 14:06#4
Hansen shouldnt go near that with a 90 foot pole .Any closer will risk unwanted freckling .
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
13 Apr 2016, 16:20#5
The thing that pisses me off the most about the Coetzee appointment is that for 4 more years we will have to read about the great talent betrayed by the incompetent coach nonsense.
But at least they won't have Matfield to kick around anymore.
13 Apr 2016, 16:45#6
I've decided to give the new coach a shot.
Who knows, he may surprise us all and deliver as promised.
I hope he does.
13 Apr 2016, 16:51#7
Yea Moz - Bok fans have always been hyper critical of their team and their coach. Much more so than any other country or team in the world. The political interference just sharpens the rhetoric.
Coetzee is going to be blamed for everything and anything.
Its going to be rough going, but Coetzee's Boks will do better than most will give them credit for.
DBDbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
DBDbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
13 Apr 2016, 17:39#8
Race based sellections are wrong on many levels, with the POC players probably being the biggest victims. This should really be stopped. It won't happen without a serious effort by someone. I get the feeling that something's gonna give in this regard...soon. The populace of SA are fed up with the SQ. Things seem to be swaying a bit. I really hope, and believe, there will be a positive swing soon.
13 Apr 2016, 19:12#9
He'll be ripped a new one if he messes up.
He should not expect any special treatment.
I expect him to select inform players ... I expect him to select those that are deserving ... I expect him to produce a game plan that brings positive results, as he promised ... I expect him to take us into the long awaited Bok era ... and if he does that, alls good with the world.
It's now time for him to up his game ... to take his average coaching skills to the next level.
I'm prepared to give this quota a shot instead of writing him off before the first whistle's blown.
A fair chance to prove himself.
The South African rugby fan is tired of second rate performances. Tired of losing to the likes of Japan and Scotland.
Get it right Allister or suffer the consequences.
DBDbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
DBDbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
13 Apr 2016, 19:46#10
CC, that's just it, he's already not getting a fair shake. He's assistant coaches were appointed by SARU...as were the rest of his support staff.
13 Apr 2016, 21:49#11
What are you saying, Draad? That Allister's merely SARU's puppet?
If he wasn't happy with it, why did he signed on the dotted line?
He did mention that he could call on any support at any time, didn't he?
Suddenly I'm not feeling so good about this whole set up.
I wonder if he'll be allowed to select his own team?
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Apr 2016, 22:09#12
We all were under the impression that Meyer selected his own team - but there were two co-selectors involve - namely Ian Mac and Jooste. Both their contracts have not been renewed - so it is not clear how the selections would be done in future,
JWJust_win
Captain18,570 posts
JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
13 Apr 2016, 22:25#13
I have heard that they hired a South African business tycoon (retired in the US) to provide advice on the selections. Some say he will defend his picks to the grave while other say they wish he would speed up the process