PLPlum
Captain21,007 posts
08 Nov 2023, 06:14#41
The ABs can get to a final in a bad cycle for them, while not being afraid to use their backs.
They simply balance the use of their backs and forwards nicely, mixing grind with flash.
Now, who else does that? Oh yes, both the French and the Irish.
What you are ALL missing in the point Moz is making, is the following...
The Boks have better forwards, than all those side and better backs than most(maybe all) of them.
Meaning the Boks have, man for man, the best squad in Rugby.
The Irish beat us with a side that is man for man not nearly as good as SA. We scraped past France to hang in there and the ABs almost did us in with 14.
Now if you do believe, like I do, that we have the best squad, and you look at those margins...you can't also believe that we are getting the most out of that squad. The disparity between squad depth, and talent, versus dominance, points to a problem. Doesn't it?
Now, is that unpatriotic or pessimistic viewpoint?
Why is everybody so butthurt by what seems so obvious?
RORooinek
Captain18,117 posts
RORooinekCaptain18,117 posts
08 Nov 2023, 07:31#43
"But . . . but . . . it was all so dispiriting! How dare South Africans celebrate? Sniff . . . and the ref was so naughty . . . and . . . sob . . . we just kicked . . . and then the red card . . . boohoohoo . . . why are you all cheering and celebrating? Why??? It's so unfair . . . sniff . . . "
LMAO!
PLPlum
Captain21,007 posts
08 Nov 2023, 09:02#44
I'm not sure what the logical fallacy relating to sports jargon is but I think it applies here to some degree.
Talk me through the AB back to back WC wins.
Then tell me how different a kettle of fish knockout rugby is.
Sometimes we say things enough times that we believe it without question.
Winning rugby is winning rugby...doesn't matter when or where.
SASaffolk
Captain30,741 posts
SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Nov 2023, 18:40#47
Wow Moz your straw clutching is reaching an all time low
Maybe the utterly useless Rassie shone a light in Freddie’s eyes hence the kick?
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Nov 2023, 19:58#49
‘An all time low’….you mean I’m doing less straw clutching.? Dave I’m merely being factual….we were very lucky, not unworthy. Unworthy is what you and Peeper directed at Jake White when you were on the other side of the argument. How soon they forget.
SASaffolk
Captain30,741 posts
SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Nov 2023, 20:15#50
Nope under Jake we were worthy as we had great players and Eddie to save Jake
I loved our side but have no time for Jake - have never rated him, just look what he is not doing with his current Bulls side
England got dominated in the second half there was only one winner in that game
Games are not won in the first half
SASaffolk
Captain30,741 posts
SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Nov 2023, 22:21#52
It was definitely the easiest route ever that’s a fact
I had issues with Jake not our side. The current AB side is not the poorest by any stretch it’s a shit hot side
Difference is, the AB’s no longer dominate like they used and will never do again. The gap has closed to the point where there is little to choose between the top 6.
14 man AB side vs a 14 man Bok side at times without a specialist hooker for 78min, negating any potential set piece dominance - an AB try that should not have been and a brain fart by Kolisi not to hand us an easy try
Our route to the final this time was by far the most difficult ever and that’s a fact
2023 was far harder than 2019 which was harder than Jake’s route which has to go down as the easiest ever - we only had to play England
I rated Eddie in those days - now he is an egotistical idiot
PLPlum
Captain21,007 posts
09 Nov 2023, 07:25#56
"Nose," Draad...that's the word you are looking for above.
Always the same with you engineers. You crush so many beers on your foreheads at varsity that it ends u o affecting you in later life...
Net n' grappie bra ;)
SASaffolk
Captain30,741 posts
SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
09 Nov 2023, 08:55#57
Yes it genius as it’s different and it worked - we won the WC with Rassie’s crazy selections
Therein lies his genius along with all those clever tactical adjustments he always seems to find against different teams
SASaffolk
Captain30,741 posts
SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
09 Nov 2023, 13:42#59
Exactly DA there always seems to be a method to Rassie’s madness
To us 4 scrumhalves in the squad was madness as was the 7/1 and no specialist hooker on the bench but who has had the last laugh
Rassie is always a step ahead
Some of it implemented on the field the other in the psyche of the opposition - like the 7/1 against the AB
It worked emphatically in the warm up and then made its reappearance in the final against the same foe - it’s head spinning stuff for the opposition