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Has the New Zealand Super XV conference become Australia's bitches?

Started by sharkbok15 REPLIES408 VIEWS· 19 Apr 2013, 02:24
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sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,298 posts
19 Apr 2013, 02:24
#1
19 Apr 2013, 02:24#1

 It seems that Australia has the wood over the New Zealand conference.
Sa teams have of course beaten most Australian challengers

I expect the debits and credits to favour SA teams more especially as out strongest touring teams, the Sharks & Stormers are about to hit the road. 

Are we seeing a changing of the guard?

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It seems that most teams are struggling to deal with our forward power. Look at the Kings, first year in the tournament and they are beating up on many teams.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,298 posts
19 Apr 2013, 02:25
#2
19 Apr 2013, 02:25#2

 

 



 

Three wins by Australian teams over New Zealand opponents reshaped the Super Rugby tournament in the the weekend's ninth round.

The Brumbies' 30-19 win over the Highlanders and the Reds' 31-23 victory over the Chiefs sent the Brumbies to the top of the table and dropped the Chiefs to second place.

The 12th-placed Western Force then shocked the Crusaders 16-14 to contribute to a reshuffle through the middle of the table which left only nine points between second and 11th-placed teams.

The Stormers' win over the Sharks and the Blues' win over the Hurricanes also closed up placings in the regional conferences.

The Sharks now lead in South Africa by three points while the Brumbies and Chiefs have two-point leads in Australia and New Zealand.

The Brumbies and Reds, now separated by a two point margin, are scheduled to meet in Brisbane next weekend in a match which may heavily influence the outcome of the Australian conference.

Brumbies coach Jake White has already labeled the Reds favorites for the match despite his team's superior standing and its larger contingent of current Wallabies.

"The Reds must have all the pressure," White said.

"The reality is they're at home and they've probably got the best home record of any team in the competition.

"They've got players who've won championships. The pressure will be on everyone but we must not underestimate they must be king favorites, every guy in their starting team is a Wallaby."

The Reds edged the Brumbies on countback last season to win the Australian conference but the Brumbies beat the Reds 24-6 when the teams met for the first time this season in the tournament's opening round.

On that occasion, the Reds were without Genia, Cooper and captain James Horwill whose returns from injury have sparked their steady improvement in recent weeks.

The Brumbies' form has sometimes wavered in recent weeks and they have mixed a draw with the Southern Kings and a loss to the Cape Town-based Stormers with a narrow home win over the Bulls and Friday's more convincing win over the Highlanders.

"I don't think we're at the point where we want to judge where we're at, that will happen on its own," White said.

He said next Saturday's match is "about testing ourselves against a team that have been the best, are considered the best, have no injuries, have won the conference two years in a row.

"They've even got a better coaching staff after adding (former Western Force coach) Richard Graham to their staff and it's a great opportunity. They must be better off than they were this time last year."

The 32-year-old Smith, who retired from international rugby in 2010 after 110 tests and who has rejoined the Brumbies this season from Japan, was a major figure in their win over the Highlanders.

He scored a try, forced turnovers and marshaled a defense which allowed the Highlanders only one, late and consolation try through All Blacks scrumhalf Aaron Smith.

The Highlanders have now lost seven games in succession, their worst-ever start to a Super Rugby season.

Genia and Cooper were key figures in the Reds' win over the Chiefs.

Cooper scored a try and kicked four conversions and a penalty for 16 points while Genia expertly guided the attacking game, handing off to Cooper for his try and to winger Rod Davies for the second of his double.

"In the end we had enough up our sleeve, enough ideas and enough things we could execute to get the result," Reds coach Ewen McKenzie said.

"The team doesn't lack belief. It's more about telling the doubters we've got something left in us."

The seven-time champion Crusaders faced the Western Force in Perth on their way home from South Africa where they won one match and lost another.

The Force built a 10 point lead in the first 12 minutes then defended stoutly to hold out the Crusaders, who were dominant for most of the match.

Crusaders center Ryan Crotty tackled a pitch invader who dashed onto the field with three others in the 75th minute, causing a brief delay.

The Blues took a bonus point from a four-try win over the Hurricanes to move into second place in the New Zealand conference and to close the gap on the Chiefs.

Winger Frank Halai and fullback Charles Piutau were outstanding members of a Blues backline, controlled by All Blacks scrumhalf Piri Weepu, who beat the Hurricanes at their own expansive game.

In Cape Town Joe Pietersen kicked six goals from six attempts, including the conversion of a solitary try to Juan de Jongh, as the injury-stricken Stormers beat South African conference leaders the Sharks 22-15.

The Bulls returned to the comfort of home to end the Cheetahs' record run on Saturday.

Having lost their last three games away in New Zealand and Australia, the three-time champion Bulls had too much power back at Loftus Versfeld and outscored the Cheetahs two tries to one.

The Cheetahs, on a franchise-record five-match winning streak, landed a last-minute penalty through flyhalf Burton Francis for a losing bonus point that put them sixth overall, but with the same amount of points as the Bulls and Hurricanes.

 

 

CA
canrugbyClub Pro640 posts
19 Apr 2013, 02:30
#3
19 Apr 2013, 02:30#3

I can already hear poi-e coming to take the bait.

AL
allblacknblueClub Pro233 posts
19 Apr 2013, 10:01
#4
19 Apr 2013, 10:01#4

Well they have been our 'bitches' for how long now? swings and roundabouts lads, swings and roundabouts.

WG
What's going on?Club Pro237 posts
19 Apr 2013, 10:15
#5
19 Apr 2013, 10:15#5

Sharkbok thats not very lady like language . Please refrain from referring to Kiwis like that otherwise you'll get  people saying all sorts of nasty shit . Thankyou Sharkbok my nigger.

The Ockers win one round and they're all getting their knickers off. Funny az .And

Do the changes in their team this week include 5 new pitch invaders? 

Kiwis could go 12 in a row when they play the Kangaroos tonight.

Go the Kiwis You Good Things.

BL
bluebokPro3,977 posts
19 Apr 2013, 10:27
#6
19 Apr 2013, 10:27#6

Yeah, I would not be so confident about the SA teams! A quick glance at the overall log should explain why. If the Stormers are wallowing in no mans land on the log, before they tour, how do you expect them to improve on things away from home? This is not the same Stormers side of the last two years. As for the Sharks, they have hardly ben a dominating force, so although they are topping our log at the moment, I don't see them been a serious threat to the bigger unions down under. The Bulls tactics came off the ark, the Kings don't have the required depth, the Cheetahs are our ony team worth a little bit of hype, but I don't know if they can maintian the intensity they have had for the last 6 or so weeks. Hope I'm wrong....but I don't think I am.

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Apr 2013, 11:30
#7
19 Apr 2013, 11:30#7

Bluebok the prospects of both the Mighty Stormers and the sharkies depend largely on injuries. Both have very good squads but key players are missing.

I will say it again because I enjoy saying it (and because of course  its true) - no side this year would live with the Stormers at full strength:

Kitshoff, Liebeberg, Malherbe

Etzebeth, Bekker

Burger, Vermuelen, Elstadt

Groom and Grant

Jean and Allende

Habana, Van der Heever,  Taute.

Reserves Cilliers, Deon Fourie, Rhodes, Kolisi, Aplon and Joe and De Jongh.

If any coach could not mould that team into champions he would be a compete dunce, Unfortunately we are far from fielding that side. Not a player there who is not a Bok or who would disgrace a Bok side.

 

 

End of story.

PO
polyboyClub Pro601 posts
19 Apr 2013, 13:32
#8
19 Apr 2013, 13:32#8
Based on one weekend sure, but this was really about just how good the SA teams were wasn't it Sharkbok, though your 2nd post was better balanced....so all is forgiven. Beeno the old "injuries" holds us back crap...dip into your infinite pool of talent that we hear so much of son!
AL
allblacknblueClub Pro233 posts
19 Apr 2013, 13:44
#9
19 Apr 2013, 13:44#9

Not much point to this argument anyway, the way their woman flock around us kiwi men in 20-30 years time most aussies will be part kiwi anyway lol!!!!

PE
poi-ePro1,044 posts
19 Apr 2013, 13:45
#10
19 Apr 2013, 13:45#10
Rancid bait
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
19 Apr 2013, 14:47
#11
19 Apr 2013, 14:47#11

Waratahs 15-Chiefs 7 after 48 minutes.

BB
Bok -Bef$KClub Pro216 posts
19 Apr 2013, 15:24
#12
19 Apr 2013, 15:24#12
Waratahs 25-20 Chiefs Full time EINA!!!!!!!!
RE
redsmanPro1,710 posts
19 Apr 2013, 15:32
#13
19 Apr 2013, 15:32#13

That's the best u got... Pitch invaders....? Guess what bud they were coloured in crusader colours you tool. They were kiwis... Ad our women flocking to u...? Not any of the ones with any class's...just our rejects... And judging by the kiwi loud mouth women I met.... Ur mum included .... I'd be running from kiwis women too......! Suck it hard owned by the tahs and here comes Israel... Twice the player of sbw in league just starting to see what he's capable of in rugby!!!!!!!! Ahhahahahahaahhaahahhaa

AL
allblacknblueClub Pro233 posts
19 Apr 2013, 15:54
#14
19 Apr 2013, 15:54#14

Owwwey! Ever so sorry red... Did I hit a raw nerve with the honesty of the situation mate? Again if so (lol) my apologies.... Maybe if you lads didn't sound like you talk through your nostrils, you'd be more of a hit with the ladys perhapes?

I hope Israel kills it! He seems alot more committed to a cause than ol SBW has ever shown.

 

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 Apr 2013, 16:22
#15
19 Apr 2013, 16:22#15

Kiwis have hit a low point. Even I am surprised by all this.

What is going on Kiwis? Perhaps it's just a mid season slump?

HA
hakwaPro4,146 posts
20 Apr 2013, 11:04
#16
20 Apr 2013, 11:04#16

 are Stormers in the Top 6? What was that again Stormers? -  

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