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How great is is that the world is wakening up

Started by Beeno110 REPLIES497 VIEWS· 17 Dec 2015, 11:43
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
17 Dec 2015, 11:43
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17 Dec 2015, 11:43#1
I had been wondering how long it would take for folk to track the muslim problem back to its source which is the koran and its jihad teachings, it not to have a non muslim as a friend and its lieing to infidels is fine. On many blogs posters are starting to quote the koran and jihad in particular. I have been reseaerching the UK and the growing desparation of ordinary people there who see sharia law coming their way. All over the palce  a massive wave is building up and the PC elites are going to be swept away.
Here is an interesting piece by Pamela Geller who is standing up and telling it like it is:

November poll by the Pew Research Center revealed significant levels of support for ISIS within the Muslim world. And another poll released in November shows that a third of Syrian refugees are ISIS sympathizers. The Pew poll validates everything I have been saying and blows the fiction that the media, academic and cultural elites have been spinning, as in this Foreign Policy article, clear out of the water. Even worse, you can be absolutely sure that the real extent of this support is higher than the Pew data indicates. Much higher. These Muslims just admit to it. Others do not.

Other surveys show that 58% of Muslims in the U.S. reject criticism of Islam as a right; 46% want such blasphemers punished legally. Twelve percent want them killed. 25% of Muslims in the U.S. think that jihad suicide bombings are justified in some circumstances. Do you think such people love America in any genuine sense?

The gist of the Foreign Policy article is that we have a problem: many in the Muslim world don’t like us, and it must be our fault, and clearly the rhetoric we are hearing in the fight for the GOP nomination isn’t helping. This is placing the blame, the onus on us, when in fact this Muslim hatred for the United States predates this election. It predates 9/11 — what was their excuse then? It predates the Hizballah bombing of our Marine barracks in Lebanon in 1983. It predates the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948. It goes back to Muhammad.

Articles such as this one in Foreign Policy are designed to shut down and shut up the conversation concerning jihad, sharia, and Muslim immigration. The Republicans have taken a stand against sharia restrictions on speech (“do not criticize Islam”) imposed by the media over the past ten years. When 

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)97%97%declared Tuesday night that “political correctness is killing people,” he nailed it. Actually it’s sharia that’s killing people, but I won’t split hairs. The American public is embracing the candidates’ candor. The GOP opened a window and let the truth in.

The hatred of infidels is a religious imperative in Islam. No matter how fast we dance, appease, pay, accommodate, and submit, the hatred and holy war will not cease. On the contrary, the more we submit and reward the hatred and terror, the more we will have to surrender.

Pamela Geller is the President of the American Freedom Defense Initiative (AFDI), publisher of PamelaGeller.com and author of The Post-American Presidency: The Obama Administration’s War on America and Stop the Islamization of America: A Practical Guide to the ResistanceFollow her on Twitter here.







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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
17 Dec 2015, 12:02
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17 Dec 2015, 12:02#2
 Meanwhle Sweden gets threats:

CRAZED Islamic State (ISIS) jihadis have sent letters to European civilians ordering them to convert to Islam within three days or face being DECAPITATED in their own homes.

By NICK GUTTERIDGEPUBLISHED: 10:06, Wed, Dec 16, 2015 | UPDATED: 14:12, Wed, Dec 16, 20156K239

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ISIS has posted letters threatening to decapitate people in Sweden

Bloodthirsty Daesh Islamists posted notes through the doors of dozens of random neighbours in several cities across Sweden, including the capital Stockholm, threatening to murder "non-believers" in a terrifying campaign of violence.

Sweden is now on lockdown after the chilling letters pledged to behead innocent civilians and then "bomb your rotten corpses afterwards".

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Intelligence officials confirmed they are investigating the horrifying threats - which were signed by "ISIS" - as a state of fear gripped the nation. 

The notes, written in Swedish, order people to convert to Islam or pay a religious tax, known as the jizya, warning that the police "will not save you from being murdered". 

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The letter, posted on Facebook, features the flag of ISIS

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It warns Swedes they must convert to Islam or face being beheaded

They state: "In the name of Allah, the merciful, full of grace. You who are not believers will be decapitated in three days in your own house. We will bomb your rotten corpses afterwards. 

"You must choose between these three choices: 1. Convert to Islam. 2. Pay the jizya [religious tax] for protection. 3. Or else, you will be decapitated.  (All recommended by the koran)

"The police will not prevent or save you from you being murdered. (Death comes to all of you)." 

THE USA AND EUROPE ARE NOT IN A FIGHT FOR THEIR EXISTENCE. THE BIGGEST DANGER IS THE BLINNESS OF THE PC LEFT.

RESEARCHING THE INTERNET IT LOOKS LIKE THERE IS GOING TO BE CIVIL WARS IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
17 Dec 2015, 12:12
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17 Dec 2015, 12:12#3
The truth about the UK coming under sharia is also becoming more widely know despite attempts to hush it up:
Up to 85 Sharia courts doling out 'justice' under the radar of English law

AS many as 85 ‘toxic’ Sharia courts are operating in the UK dishing out justice according to Islam, it has emerged.

By LEDA REYNOLDSPUBLISHED: 11:45, Mon, Dec 14, 2015 | UPDATED: 12:49, Mon, Dec 14, 2015863187

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Sharia courts rule on everything from divorce to crime

And the all-male courts are rigged against women fuelled by “a toxic mix of religious fundamentalism, culture and tight-knit communities”, according to an explosive new book set to go before parliament in the new year.

Writer and researcher Machteld Zee, a Dutch academic, said: ”Sharia councils uphold the theory and practice of the strong hold men have over women.”

Her new book offers an insight into how the sharia courts operate under the radar of English law and rule on everything from relationships and divorce to crime.

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The book Choosing Sharia? Multiculturalism, Islamic Fundamentalism and British Sharia Councils was written after she was given unprecedented access to Sharia courts in England including 15 hours of hearing at Sharia courts in Leyton, east London and Birmingham Central Mosque.

The legal scholar at Leiden University in the Netherlands, was able to scrutinise more than a dozen cases and then went on to interview a variety of Shaira experts including nine Islamic judges (qadis).

Her findings are due to be unveiled in the Houses of Parliament next month and are the first detailed analysis of the workings of British sharia courts ever undertaken by an independent researcher.

Ms Zee said: “There are, in fact, two separate legal orders functioning in the UK of which one currently operates in the shadow of the law.

Sharia is the basic Islamic legal system derived from the religious precepts of Islam, particularly the Quran and the Hadith, and while it is practised by many, has no standing within English law.

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A woman wears traditional Muslim dress

Ms Zee said judges "uphold the theory and practice of the strong hold men have over women".

 One judge is said to have laughed at a woman who claimed she was being abused by her husband, asking: "Why did you marry such a person?"

And several women were reportedly shackled by their husbands' debts being asked for "large sums of money" for their divorce requests.

Ms Zee said sharia judges are "not a neutral third party" but are "always in favour of the man" – and sometimes even give custody of children to fathers.

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The Sharia Council of Great Britain look at some case files

She added: "In a toxic mix of religious fundamentalism, culture and tight-knit communities, sharia councils uphold the theory and practice of the strong hold men have over women.

"Sharia councils may 'help' women who want a divorce, but it is a solution to a problem that they fuel and one that they seek to preserve.

"Moreover, that religious divorces are sharia councils' 'core business' does not in the least bit mean that they are actually willing to help women obtain one.

Khola Hasan of the Islamic Sharia Council branded Zee's allegations of bias towards men as "absolute rubbish".

She told the Independent: "We certainly don't condone domestic violence or force women to go back – we are there to get women out of religious marriages.

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Birmingham Central Mosque

"Custody is not in our remit. We are not allowed to deal with custody and we make clear on our website and with everyone coming to us [that they need] to go to English court."

A spokesman for Birmingham Central Mosque Sharia Council was unavailable for comment.

The news comes after ministers ordered a probe into the unlawful use of "discriminatory" Sharia councils as part of the Government's counter-extremism strategy.

Tory peer Lord Bates said Islamic law is potentially being applied in an "unacceptable" way in England and Wales.

"That is why, as part of the forthcoming counter-extremism strategy, Government will commission a full, independent investigation to assess to what extent Sharia is being applied in a manner that is unacceptable."

I do trust the dopes understand the full extent of sharia law and are happy to live under it.

Aplogogies to Farange. Saw a clip of him speaking in the EU parliament. He was very good. His arguments re leaving EU are winning as are his commenst re immigration and islam gaining more and more support. 


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Dec 2015, 14:30
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17 Dec 2015, 14:30#4
 Beeno
If you want to get up to date US political news favouring the Republicans google Jonathan Garthwaite Townhall Daily.     
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WardadPro6,663 posts
17 Dec 2015, 14:35
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17 Dec 2015, 14:35#5
 Gee mikey are you enjoying your mate beendiks nonsense ? Or are you into this 'kill the families of terrorists " nonsense that trump and your boot licking buddy espouse ? Gee its wonderful how your mate gets 'discussion ' going isnt it ?If by discussion you mean reams of nonsensical right wing creationist nut-job garbage that just makes people want to throttle the little sh!thead  yeah marvelous eh mikey ? Enjoy!
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bluebokPro3,977 posts
17 Dec 2015, 14:44
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17 Dec 2015, 14:44#6
Beans, please stop sending these mile long copy and paste posts about Islam! I am not trying to be argumentative, but they are just annoying! You have stated your point very clearly, but now you are just repeating the same thing over and over and over again. 
Pl ease man, I am begging you! 
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ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
17 Dec 2015, 16:07
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17 Dec 2015, 16:07#7
 untill when do we have to bear this avalanche of lies and endless cut&paste from the most unreliable sources of internet?
enough is enough, man. Stop this BS fascist-propaganda.

Just to prove that these are all lies, I take the first paragraph of the first article posted:

"A November poll by the Pew Research Center revealed significant levels of support for ISIS within the Muslim world. And another poll released in November shows that a third of Syrian refugees are ISIS sympathizers."

the lies are of such calibre that you just need to go to the links of the article itself and find that:



as it can be seen the percentage of support doesn't reach the 10% in the majority of the countries and, precisely, the countries where exceeds the 10% are the countries where less % of muslims are (Nigeria 50% of muslims, Malaysia 60%)

The second sentence is an even much bigger lie. If you go to the poll linked you'll find
the Figure 11 (the other questions and figures are related to the US airstrikes, the arab participation in the coalition, etc) :

answers to the question "In general, do you have a positive or negative view of ISIL?

Syrians refugees:
73% Negative
10% Negative to some extent
  9% Positive to some extent
  4% Positive

so how the hell can nobody come to the conclusion that "a third of Syrian refugees are ISIS sympathizers"?

the average of all the muslim countries is as follws:
72% Negative
13% Negative to some extent
  7% Positive to some extent
  4% Positive

so we have that 72% of the people in muslim countries have a completely negative view of ISIS, the great majority, while only 4% have a completely positive view.

This was only the first paragraph of the first article. The rest of the endless fascist-propaganda posted by our nazi poster are clumsy lies of the same caibre.



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ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
17 Dec 2015, 16:09
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17 Dec 2015, 16:09#8
 
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bluebokPro3,977 posts
17 Dec 2015, 16:21
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17 Dec 2015, 16:21#9
ABas, there is no way that is accurate! How can that be representative when there is no Saudi Arabi, Afghanistan, Syria, Iran, Iraq, UAE, Libya etc etc? I get the point you are making, but they have left out some of the most extreme muslim countri es. 
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ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
17 Dec 2015, 17:09
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17 Dec 2015, 17:09#10
 I was just proving that all what Beeno is posting is made of huge lies and it's completely unreliable, they are manipulated news and articles.
Those were the polls posted by Beeno not by me.

But, anyway the second poll linked:
http://english.dohainstitute.org/file/Get/40ebdf12-8960-4d18-8088-7c8a077e522e

the countries were it was made were:
Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Egypt, Tunisia, the Syrian refugees, and others appearing in the graph of first poll (Lebanon, Palestine and Jordan)
and the results are very similar (as I posted before):

"the average of all the muslim countries is as follws:
72% Negative
13% Negative to some extent
  7% Positive to some extent
  4% Positive"

if there's a 100% of the libaneses that according to the first poll have an unfavorable opinion of ISIS, according to the second poll there's a 98% of them who have a negative view

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Dec 2015, 21:20
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17 Dec 2015, 21:20#11
 Wardad
I do not believe the ideas of Beeno as to the Muslim religion - I have many Muslim friends and none would subscribe to the ideas raised by Mozart.  They have helped me a lot in my life and I am not prepared to just give up on them.  
I do believe there are extremists in every religion in the world and they give religion a bad name.  
I referred Beeno to a site where he could pick up a variety of views on the side of the Republicans and forget about the reactionary views of Trump  
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