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I took some time off to watch the Chiefs-Stormers game again

Started by clevermike8 REPLIES411 VIEWS· 17 Mar 2015, 10:41
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Mar 2015, 10:41
#1
17 Mar 2015, 10:41#1

When the team was announced last week - I had a horrible feeling about the outcome.  I was horrified about especially the selection of -


*   Coleman at flyhalf; 

*   Leyds as a wing.


Coleman is a very average Vodacom Cup level player totally unfit to play on Super 15 level.  Leyds last year went to the Force to play for them, was rarely used and apparently was told by them he is not acceptable to continue at the Force.  Not acceptable by the Force apparently make him first choice acceptable by the Stormers.


There were other selections that also gave me reason to worry.   I wrote last week that Kolbe is just not big enough physically to play on Super 15 level and Beeno is likely right - if he wants to play on Super 15 level - it should be as a scrummie.   A worrying selection always is Juan de Jongh - a harmless and gugely ineffective 13 on Super Rugby level.


The effect of the above was clear.  The above selections all refer to the backline.  During the game De Allende was outstanding - he was better than the celebrated S-B Williams.   Van Wyk had a good game and Schreuder was acceptable.


Insofar as defense is concerned - there were huge whole in defense that De Allende and Van Wyk tried to fill.  Time and again they had to try and cover for the botched tackle attempts  or even non-attemps to tackle of the other backline players mentioned above  - unfortunately not always successfully. 


Now lets get  into more details about the handicaps in the Stormers backline.  


*  Coleman was an outright disaster.  In the case of two relieving kicks from within the Stormers 22 - he failed to find touch.   In a third case he did find touch - but so near the touchline that the Chiefs easily managed a quick throw-in.    All three attempts led to counter-attacks by the Chiefs and tremendous pressure on the Stormers.  The net result was a swing of 17 points in favour of the Chiefs.   


*   Leyds was put into the clear once and made about 20 meters.  For the rest he was totally ineffective and his defense was a mess.  he mostly did not even attempt tackles on opponents and leaft defense to other players.


*    Kolbe was a defensive disaster - the Chiefs players just pushed him aside as if he was not there.   


*   De Jongh had one good ball carry after De Allende put him in the clear.   For the rest he was an attacking disaster and he was routinely carried back in tackles - putting his team under pressure.   His tackles was so weak - it was a serious problem as well.   At one critical stage in the game, while the Stormers was attacking - he just knocked on a perfectly passed ball to him.


The Tight 5 had a top game - completely over-shadowing the Chiefs - both in line outs and in scrums.   The loosies was average and had some good moments - but they were ineffective inasmuch as there tackle count was extremely low for a loosie combination (16 attempts of which 14 were successful)  and  they failed top apply pressure on th Chiefs players, especially Cruden.  When Burger came on fairly early in the second half he was no improvement and made no impression in the game - matter of fact he was worse than Kolisi - and it was clear he was suffering from the dreaded "Japanese Club Rugby" syndrome.


In general a game in which the Tight 5 forwards completely over-shadowed their counter-parts, the loosies were average, but the team was badly let down by 4 of their 7 backline players.       

              

BR
BrycyPro4,671 posts
17 Mar 2015, 10:48
#2
17 Mar 2015, 10:48#2
 ...not so clever mike how you feeling about the Sharks chances this week ....pretty sure you predicted a Stormers win last week mate...
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Mar 2015, 11:55
#3
17 Mar 2015, 11:55#3
Brycy
To be quite frank I initially thought that the Stormers had a 60:40 chance of beating the Chiefs - but when I saw the mongrel backline Coetzee selected I changed my mind about the outcome.   This must be the worst backline players at 15, 14 and 13 ever in any Stormers team.  
I would not give the Sharks a 5% chance of beating the Chiefs and my reasons are the following:-
*   Although Beast and Jannie du Plessis were good props in the past - they have gone backwards massively and the Chiefs should not have any problems in dealing with scrumming and other phases of Tight 5 play.
*   the Sharks has the worst center combination imaginable.   Even though it is rumoured that Williams may not play this weekend because of recurring headaches (I think it may be even recurring nightmares featuring De Allende) - there is no ch ance that the Sharks centers would be able to face any center combination the Chiefs may come up with. 
By the way if Williams is out for the upcoming match - I will be in serious trouble in my team selections for this coming weekend.
*   I absolutely have to get rid of Barrett - he was an absolute disaster last week.   Change 1
*   I have had two Stormers props and the useless Kepu as props.   I will have to move to trade 1 Stormers prop at least.  Am thinking of Ben Franks.   Change 2  
*   Du Toit was one of my bankers at lock - will have to replace him.   Change 3  
So if Williams is out - where to now?  My other two centers are De Allende and Fekitoa.   Incidentally - I had in all competitions De Allende starting and Williams on the bench and I  was proved correct in that.  I can bench De Allende, but will have to trade Williams - but for whom?   Change 4 
If things go on like this I may have to use my Wildcard this week - was hoping to delay that until Rounds 8/9 when each round has three teams on byes.     
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
17 Mar 2015, 12:20
#4
17 Mar 2015, 12:20#4

Yep the issue with the Stormers is that their backs are ineffective thanks to having 3 physically inept players in the backs.

 

The forwards did them proud. The tightfive were outstanding and Kolisi had a great game, with Vermeulen as good as ever. 

 

I am a big fan of Kolbe and there is always place for one little guy in the backs but only on the wing.

 

Lleyds and de Jongh must go......there are far better options about.

 

Why any coach persists with a little guy at 13 is beyond me

JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
17 Mar 2015, 14:15
#5
17 Mar 2015, 14:15#5

 I have made my trades (& may change again or use my wildcard)

 

So far:

 

Props: Connie;  VanWyk, F.

 

Hooker: S. Moore (Brumbies)


Locks : fardy; Romano

 

Backrow: Coetzee, M. Whitely; Butler J (Brumbies)

 

HB White, N (Brumbies)

 

10 Pollard

12 Fekitoa

13 Burton, L (WFR)

11 Savea J.

14 Folau

 

Some serious weaknesses, including caliber of some players & the fact that I have too many Brumbies & they have a bye next week.

 

AG
AgPleezDeddyClub Pro900 posts
17 Mar 2015, 16:16
#6
17 Mar 2015, 16:16#6
 Mike, did you watch the full match on the internet? If so, could you link it to me please, as I'd also like to watch it
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Mar 2015, 16:54
#7
17 Mar 2015, 16:54#7
 Luke
Mt proviional trades were made and my team looks like this at this stage:-
PR   -    B Franks, S KepuHO   -    H ElliotLO   -     R Arnold,  M AbbottBR   -     M Hooper, M  Coetzee, P LabuscagneSH   -     N WhiteFH   -     H PollardCE   -     J Serfontein, M FekitoaOB   -    J  Folau, J Savea, J Kriel
The players on my shortlist to get rid of in future are -

Kepu, Elliot and White
I will have $114100 left in the kitty and if all players play the next week, will have to 
*   buy back Koch in place of Kepu;*   trade Elliot - hopefully  B Funnell (Would prefer Moore, but the Brumbies have a bye next week);*   trade White - TJ Perenara 
That would leave me in good nick for both Rounds 7 and 8
With my bench in mind - my team for week 8 will probably looks like follow:-
PR   -     S Kitshoff, V KochHO   -    H FunnellLO   -     M Abbott, R BothaBR   -     M  Coetzee, P Labuscagne, L TimaniSH   -     TJ PerneraFH   -     H PollardCE   -     D de Allende, J SerfonteinOB   -    M Naholo, J Savea, J Kriel
I would have 4 trades left and will try and bring in Moore, Etsebeth and Cane before Round 8.   Problem with those 3 would be financial.
P-S du Toit is sorely missed - hope he comes back sooner than expected.      
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
17 Mar 2015, 17:01
#8
17 Mar 2015, 17:01#8
Number nine, number nine, number nine.....  
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Mar 2015, 17:42
#9
17 Mar 2015, 17:42#9
Mozart has gone dilly again - dilly again - dilly again.      
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