Indispensable Bok players

I would say the following players for me

Kitshoff, Marx, Malherbe. Up and coming, Ox and Grobbler, Dweeb has potential

Etzebeth, just no other player right now we can match him

PSDT, has his detractors, slip tackles, but it is the type of defensive role he plays where he shoots up. 

Pollard, definitely 

Kolbe, Arendse not far behind

Willie, For some reason gets the most of the bok backline, agree that Galant missed out, but maybe going to France counted against him  

1. Kwagga, RG, Eben, Koch were the most physical Boks against New Zealand. Kwagga was all over the breakdown and the most effective at pressuring the Kiwi breakdown and stifling the excellent Kiwi 9s.
2. Malherbe looks very unfit, and was mostly off the pace. He also can't scrum. 
3. Kolisi is still not test quality. 
4. Our wings can run, but not much else. We have problems here. 
5. Marx looks average. It's been a long time since his peak in 2016, I'm starting to believe that this is is baseline. 
6. De Allende is not test quality.
7. Willemse is a good enough utility back. 
8. Faf is not a test quality 9. We are struggling for fundamental skills at 9, and Faf is the worst right now. He was never a skillful 9. 

Plum, good point on Jantjies. I know Faf and Jantjies came through the lions ranks together and was part of that amazing under Ackerman and Swys. 

Not sure how many test they played together and was the outcome of those. 

I know under Coetzee they really struggled. I think Faf fell out of favour and end up leaving for Sale Sharks. 

Might be worth to see them in a friendly. 

Not sure if Pollard will recover in time. 

We need to look past Willemse for now. 

Don't think we need to continue with the 5/2 split. 

Go back to 4/3 and rotate the players at the right time. 

Am needs to get his form back, and fast 

Libbok is a waste of game time, as he has shown already. This is the kind of selection that ends campaigns. Like Lood and Damian in 2015. 

Well, ask him the question which dominant pack would he build that he keeps going on about and who is his best back line and why?

How does anybody not see the value in Kwagga?

Swys did, and it worked better than anything.

Kwagga should be at 12. 

And I'll always believe that.

I don't think the Bok team that started against the ABs would have been as successful against the Ozzies as the one that did.

Libbok is easily test material. 

But Rassie is building subs and Libbok is carbon fibre...

What did Libbok do against New Zealand? 

Kwagga was the strongest physical presence at the breakdown and the only Bok to pressure the All Black halfbacks. This isn't an opinion, this is a fact. Libbok was tossed around, Marx got cleaned out heavily several times, the wings were exposed, Malherbe looked old, fat and tired, Lood was nothing at all. Saddex, always good for a chuckle. 

Kwagga has been the most consistently good Bok since 2021. He is the most valuable Bok, and the only one who gives us an edge against the top teams. Your analytical skills are exceedingly poor. van Staaden will never be more physical than Kwagga. We all know you like fatties, heavy people, not strong people, ergo Malherbe, Lood, Damian, Steph et al. You even backed the hopeless Kolisi, who hasn't had one good test in his career. Better yet, you approved the flop that was Libbok. He has done nothing even remotely passable and you rubber stamp him. Likewise the other pretender, Roos. 

Yes, trademark... ineffective. I've never seen a possession 12 who didn't have the crashball in his tookbox. The Boks lost in all facets. But still, I want to hear the Marx references. 

Case closed? So I am to believe contrary to everything that is observable because some people we don't know said so? Did they review any film? How closely did they watch these games? The certainly couldn't have used stats as their basis. You care clearly no thought leader. 

No one is above video evidence. It's that simple Saddex. You are repeatedly at odds with video evidence, and never, ever form any kind of retort other than "x said y", or "you're stupid, because I have feelings to the contrary". That right there is arrogance. 

You don't see anything at all. When an entire test season was posted of his work, you had no answer for it. You never have any answer for anything at all. When asked to provide some reference you lazily proclaim only a loser will take the time to know what they are talking about. You find yourself mentally stuck. You are very easily routed Saddex.

So it's negative when it concerns what you like, but when you moan about other things incessantly, it's what exactly? Saddex, you are a very confused individual. Can you utter one syllable without finding your foot in your mouth? 

You hated Viljoen, Straeuli, White, De Villiers, Meyer, Coetzee. You have a soft spot for the mediocre Erasputin. That doesn't sound very positive to me. You have hated many of South Africa's best players. You do like Christmas lists of names though. The more we analyse you, the worse it gets! You've even lied to defend your hatred.

I won't apologise for my dislike of mediocrity.