SASaffolk
Captain30,741 posts
SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
04 Mar 2015, 11:12#2
Arno Botha is a far better player than Labs, once he is fit he will be the first name on the Bulls team sheet.......and he is better suited to 8 any way
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Mar 2015, 12:01#3
Dave
Sorry to differ - but Arno never was a better player than Labuschagne. If the Bulls regarded Arno as better - why did they contract Labuschagne and pay him a very high fee?
I think that essentially Arno is a number 8 - far better than Spies. At 7 you need to have ball protection and recovery skills as well - which is somewhat absent in the case of Arno and very evident in the case of Labuschagne .
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Mar 2015, 14:57#5
I agree with you about Arno being a number 8. However - he has had virtually no rugby since June 2013 and when he did come back for the one match in Super 15 earlier this year - he was on the field for very little time before being injured again. The little time he did play this year - he showed very little so nobody knows what he would be performance-wise at present.

sharkbok
Captain23,285 posts

sharkbokCaptain23,285 posts
04 Mar 2015, 15:35#6
Who is leading the most crashballs? I thought the Bulls website would be very prominent in that regard.
04 Mar 2015, 15:43#7
LOl @ Sharkbok! Although, who beat the Sharks over the weeke nd? Just checking.
SASaffolk
Captain30,741 posts
SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
04 Mar 2015, 15:55#8
Its about Arno when he was fit.......class is permanent......once he is fit and had a few games, he will be one of our best loosies on show
BEBeeno1
Captain40,032 posts
BEBeeno1Captain40,032 posts
04 Mar 2015, 23:16#9
Wiki givesArno at 102 kg and the Bulle website at 103 kg. Bulle website gives lappies at 105 kg and I ahve seen him on the cheetahs website at 107 kg.Arno is a wee fellow wityh a lot to prove. Lappies is playing extremley well asthe stast show,Snapster please tr yand get some sense of what a players actually weights before making wild claims that Arno is bigger etc. You remember the wee matfield debacle when you claimed he was 115kg - HahahahahahahahahaMike I think ypur assessment is spot on.
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Mar 2015, 23:43#10
Lappies is a fine provincial player. He is no international. The guy is in the later stages of his career, flanks arrive early.
JWJust_win
Captain18,570 posts
JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
05 Mar 2015, 00:26#11
I think Matfield has proven that the lighter more agile lock has a role to play in SA rugby & no Beeno I am not referring to a role as water boy
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
05 Mar 2015, 02:02#12
I will rather not deal with Mozart's hallucinations - he lives in a world of his own - where Willem Alberts is the only answer at 7 and useless Ouma Victoria Matfield at 5 - so what can we expect from him other than BS.
GEgeneraltit
Pro3,164 posts
05 Mar 2015, 02:31#13
Beeno: Wiki givesArno at 102 kg and the Bulle website at 103 kg. Bulle website
gives lappies at 105 kg and I ahve seen him on the cheetahs website at
107 kg.
Hey Beeno...we know that you are on a diet but others are growing young men that enjoy thick steaks...ask Cloudy and Dr Win and Francois Steyn...oops sorry Frans, I believe the fish diet and sushi in Japan has got you back to athletic form