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Irish News : Resurgent Springboks look like serious challengers

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Aug 2019, 17:10
#41
07 Aug 2019, 17:10#41

No Mozart

I am not talking about Pollard after his exceptional performances immediately after he came in - I am talking about what happened after he came in and got really coached by Meyer,   He was allowed to start in two game in the EOYT/    He lost the plot in 2015 and as times go by Meyer's selections got weirder and weirder.   In the WC he was not producing the goods.

No Mozart the fans do not pick teams and coach the players.   Nobody expected from  Meyer who to  select and as said he got weirder in selections as time went on.   New players came in and two tests later they are dropped even when they had relatively good games.  No younger players bar Etzebeth and Coetzee ever had a change to gain sufficient test experience with Meyer around,

And I am still wondering what Meyer expected from Pollard with Du Preez passing the b all to anybody bar him at least 75% of the time.  

There was no way that the players even the best ones ending up with no self-confidence  and no confidence in their teammates as well.   That was the inheritance Meyer left for Coetzee and  he was even worse in that respect.   That was one of the major problems Erasmus had to deal with when he took over as Director of  Rugby - getting the team sprit back and implementing proper game plans - while refining aspects of the game like strategic and effective kicking  totally missing under Meyer,            


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Aug 2019, 17:10
#42
07 Aug 2019, 17:10#42

No Mozart

I am not talking about Pollard after his exceptional performances immediately after he came in - I am talking about what happened after he came in and got really coached by Meyer,   He was allowed to start in two game in the EOYT/    He lost the plot in 2015 and as times go by Meyer's selections got weirder and weirder.   In the WC he was not producing the goods.

No Mozart the fans do not pick teams and coach the players.   Nobody expected from  Meyer who to  select and as said he got weirder in selections as time went on.   New players came in and two tests later they are dropped even when they had relatively good games.  No younger players bar Etzebeth and Coetzee ever had a change to gain sufficient test experience with Meyer around,

And I am still wondering what Meyer expected from Pollard with Du Preez passing the b all to anybody bar him at least 75% of the time.  

There was no way that the players even the best ones ending up with no self-confidence  and no confidence in their teammates as well.   That was the inheritance Meyer left for Coetzee and  he was even worse in that respect.   That was one of the major problems Erasmus had to deal with when he took over as Director of  Rugby - getting the team sprit back and implementing proper game plans - while refining aspects of the game like strategic and effective kicking  totally missing under Meyer,            


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Aug 2019, 17:20
#43
07 Aug 2019, 17:20#43
Eraser was handed the perfect opportunity for a turn around artist....the kind of situation I used to relish in my corporate days. 1 An inherently strong franchise. 2 Complete authority to implement his own plan. 3 Total support from everybody. 4 A bar so low, he couldn't help but be succesful 5 Demoralized players looking for leadership. Far from being hard.....this is a dream assignment for a coach.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Aug 2019, 17:30
#44
07 Aug 2019, 17:30#44

Beating the AB's  is setting the bar low?????????? 

And he did not get a strong franchise - he had to weed out the rubbish he inherited and get replacements in place.     

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
07 Aug 2019, 17:50
#45
07 Aug 2019, 17:50#45
He was handed: The Beast, Kitshoff, Marx, Nyakane, Etzebeth, Mostert, Louw Vermeulen, Faf, Pollard, Willie A core of strong players countries like Oz, Bargie and Wales could only dream about.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Aug 2019, 18:39
#46
07 Aug 2019, 18:39#46

 The nonsense continues of the 11 players you mentioned about 3 to 4 are not really starting players  and at last two are really questionable as test standard players.  So the test squad of 23 players are drastically short of top players.

Some of the players you did not mention  are far better players than those you mentioned - but of course prejudice is your norm.

The main problem is the  building of a good squad and restoring the confidence of the players after years of  poor coaching and selection.   We even now still have real duds in the squad 0 bt they will no doubt be  out by the time the WC squad of 31 players is named.      

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Aug 2019, 18:39
#47
07 Aug 2019, 18:39#47

 The nonsense continues of the 11 players you mentioned about 3 to 4 are not really starting players  and at last two are really questionable as test standard players.  So the test squad of 23 players are drastically short of top players.

Some of the players you did not mention  are far better players than those you mentioned - but of course prejudice is your norm.

The main problem is the  building of a good squad and restoring the confidence of the players after years of  poor coaching and selection.   We even now still have real duds in the squad 0 bt they will no doubt be  out by the time the WC squad of 31 players is named.      

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