Is Markram really doing better.....

I wondered how long it would take before you start your normal attacks on Markram - it did not last long.      

Who gives a shit.

Put this in the cricket section where it belongs. One has been specially made available for this kind of nonsense.

Mozart

Lets get this straight form/performance has never counted with you ands only age and reputation did.    So who are you to make a comment like the above?

Take it to the cricket section.

Was the form of Du Plessis and De Villoers any better yesterday.   Both were clean bowled with poor scores - so why concentrate on Markram and  De kock?

Amla was extremely lucky to be not given out LBW four times and even though the replays showed that the sticks were hit ,marginally he was not out because the umpires did not give him out LBW.    He could easily be out for less than 20 runs.  

Now back to De Kock - there is a slump in his form and everyone admits it,   However he will get back to form sooner rather than later.    So stick to what you know something about an d that is definitely not form and performance.          

Mozart

Unlike you with your total addiction to experience I take a longer term view of players and am not a foe of anything younger than 30 years,   I do not look at single incidents or single matches - that is a fatal misreading of the situation.

Lets take an example.   Kallis was a total loss in his first ten tests and had a very poor batting average - yet the selectors stuck with him and he became a cricketing great.   You cannot recognize potential even if it strike you in the face.  

Before this test Markram had the second highest run-scoring record of all SA batsman after De Villiers in this series.  His first real failure and you go on all-out attack.    That is typical Mozart - bad news showing no longer term vision on players on your part.

Besides that you never realize when players should be replaced because of serial deficiencies.    According to you the serious and constant failure on the part of "experienced" players should be ignored and never mentioned..  

Another example issue is your constant attacks on De Kock    He has lost form - but was a huge success in especially the shorter version of the game.   In your initial attacks the theme was that De Kock cannot bat against the Ausie bowlers - yet one of his high number of centuries was against the Aussies in Australia.   Next attack was he cannot play spin and when that went out of the window, now he cannot bat against against "movement:.

Players like Graeme Smith was to use your description fatally flawed against most bowlers - yet there never was a single negative comment by  you about him.    But that is the difference - "fatally flawed" is only applicable to players you do not like.   

The other fact is that De Kock scored more centuries in ODI's than Snith did in his entire career and his batting averages in all versions o f the game are  higher than Smith's were.    There is a difference - namely that he will be able to adjust since he is still young and will do so to eliminate his present deficiencies.

Get over your age mania and it is not befitting to base form on age alone.              

Cook was given more chances and he failed virtually continously

Seems like poor wee cc is being completely ignored regarding where posts should be made and rightly so.

Dr Moz the problem is who the heck is doing well with the bat. These wickets have been poor for t his and the previous test. 

Christ you two are annoying

Cant you discuss like two normal, level headed people?

Rugby---->Cricket

Please!

or else....

Rooiaas will appear

Mozart 

May I ask you a question?    There are two players who each missed three catches in the slips or wider out in the Proteas team this test series,   Do you think with that record these two players are of real value for the team?    

Mozart 

May I ask you a question?    There are two players who each missed three catches in the slips or wider out in the Proteas team this test series,   Do you think with that record these two players are of real value for the team?