It diesnt matter is we win or lose the

squabbles will continue. A win will set off as many recriminations as a loss. Hahahahahahahahahaha
Those denying anything is amiss will feel fully vindicated. The wise though will know things are not as they should be. Never the two shall meet.
The basic trouble is few see things clearly like me!  Poise and balance being the Beeno signature!

 ...Bean Brain are you conceding the Samoans are about to kick yr butt ?... try not to be such a defeatist mate...although I have to admit they do look like the better team on paper...you never know, Willy LeRoux could pull a rabbit out of the hat - he is such an enigma.....you could just drop goals ala Naas Botha styles at every opportunity as that has been a successful formula in the past..

 There is always hope... I guess

Brothers brycy and JW, I am as I have said a number of times picking the Boks to win. Yes even with out Bissie and with playing 14 men for the entire match ( matfiled being the absent on field tight forward)

 Good for you beeno, you set a good example by sticking to your team.

 ...midnight so have to go back to my crypt...see yous in a couple of hours for a good hard game or two...Cowboys just made the NRL final kicking Melborne's butt as well so a v good evening....have to miss the WP vs Puma game unfortunately...already know the outcome though as...

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August 22, 2015, 18:52:04

 brycy my good man nobody kicks WP butt

 Jeezum crow beandork ,running up the white flag already ? 

 Although I don't  thing the boks will win by less than 14, a loss won't overly surprise me. If there is truth in the rumours of rife in the team ranks, with the dropping of Bismarck would indicate, then there might be another upset. Even if the Boks win, it won't mean there isn't a problem with team spirit. I would like to think the loss to Japan galvanized the team as nothing else could have, but with Bissie being dropped,  I worrie a bit. There is no reason to rest him. Barring last week, Strauss hasn't been on top form for wuite some time. Britz should get game time, but the omission of Bismarck for a physical crunch game is a clear indication of something wrong in the team setup. Is he alone in this? I doubt it. Jannie must surely side with him. Is there others too scared of speaking out? Must be. Enough of a devide to affect the team spirit?  Hope not, but worrying enough.We will probably never know the true story, but all is not well in the Bok camp, that much is clear. Still,  GO BOKKE!

 PS, for whatever reason, this is without a doubt the largest crisis in Bok rugby ever. Worse than all the controversy during Apartheid and the rebel tours etc. Worse than government interference during Apartheid and thereafter. No-one would have even think it possible for even Strauli's team to lose to Samoa, Scotland,  not even mentioning Japan. Yes the gap between the minions and 1st tier seems to be shrinking all the time, but Japan, really?

Let's see what a win will do. I am supporting Samoa but it is a big ask for them to win against a wounded Bok team. If the Boks get some confidence they will really pick it up & their bench will be stronger so the last quarter should be tough for Samoa.
Could we be in for another big upset?