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'It's the physicality, they're bigger men': Midfield test awaits Wee All Blacks

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
27 Aug 2021, 23:45
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27 Aug 2021, 23:45#1


The education of ou mozzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz and the org continues. Seems Conrad Smith also doesn't agree with these two - see my other post about Boks being best team on the planet according to a kiwi.


While Ian Foster has searched for his ideal midfield combination this year with Jack Goodhue sidelined for the season, the Springboks have continued to build with their established pair of Damian de Allende and Lukhanyo Am.

The pair of South African midfielders are in top form, with Am in particular making big defensive plays after an impressive Lions series that saw him contain the likes of Elliot DalyChris Harris and Robbie Henshaw.

Speaking on the Aotearoa Rugby Pod, Crusader halfback Bryn Hall praised Am’s work as ‘fantastic’ in their high pressure system which ask the centres and wingers to fly up off the line a lot of the time.

“He was fantastic in that British & Irish Lions series, more so around his defensive reads, being able to put line speed pressure on teams,” Hall said.

“I think the way with the South Africa’s defence is, with him playing so high with Kolbe and Mapimpi, it’s a real confidence boost when the midfielders make good decisions. Am has been doing that consistently.

“I’ve really enjoyed De Allende as well, he brings a real good go-forward off their line out and mauls. They had a lot of penalty advantages and they played a lot through him, playing 12 and him carrying.

That type of confrontational approach will put the spotlight on the All Blacks midfielders in The Rugby Championship, where current second five David Havili will have to provide support on the inside to the likes of Richie Mo’unga and Beauden Barrett.

The ‘big battle’ for the All Blacks will be dealing with the ‘bigger men’ in the Springboks centres and the physicality they bring.

“They’ve played a British & Irish Lions series together and been really good and strong. That test match against Argentina on the weekend was good as well so I think it’s going to be a great challenge for the All Blacks and the likes of David Havili moving forward,” Hall said.

“It’s the physicality, and they’re bigger men. It’s going to be a test for our midfield, ALB or Rieko at centre. It’s going to be a big battle when we hopefully get the opportunity to play them.”

Former All Black hooker James Parsons explained that the pressure system that the Springboks run works in large part because of the decisions of Am.

“The thing I like about Am is, he has the ability to rush up defensively. And I think he’s one of the biggest reasons why South Africa is so successful in their defensive system,” Parsons explained.

“We all know that 13, I believe, is the hardest position on the field probably to defend. You have to connect with those inside, but the wingers outside can sometimes be 50-50, in that backfield in that pendulum play.

“But what Am does so well, is he gets up, he almost says ‘do you want to throw an intercept? You are going to have to throw it over me which will give me time to recover’, which he does so well.

“But when he gets up there and their numbers are down, he has the ability to slide as well. His work rate to cover that outside channel once the ball has gone there is outstanding.

The former Blues hooker highlighted Am’s work in the second test against the Pumas, where Am made a try-saving play just by being there at the end of the movement and an opportunity came up to snatch away possession.

“You saw that in the 80th minute when he got back and intercepted that ball. The Argies just bobbled it and he sort of just got it, but he didn’t give up on the play. And that’s the biggest thing he’s doing so well defensively.

“He never gives up on the play. He works extremely hard to split with De Allende, so they’ve got both sides of the field and they’re looking after and marshalling the troops inside them.

“There is a lot of stuff he does that doesn’t actually involve him doing an action, that forces the opposition to do something and play into their hands and go back into their big boys.”

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
28 Aug 2021, 00:30
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28 Aug 2021, 00:30#2

Damian was effortlessly handled. Even dumped twice. We haven't seen him l ink up successfully with anyone outside of a handful of rudimentary passes that were scripted. Am is a quality player, but one we seldom see the best of on attack. He is a solid defender and has good movement off the ball. Looks a lot better with Esterhuizen inside of him. At the moment playing barely to 50% of his ability. 

Damian has been playing to the ceiling of his ability. Which is admittedly not very high. The Bok attack flounders more and more as it concentrates possession through him. Hence we kick, kick and kick. On Saturday we looked to create absolutely nothing outside of the maul and kick. It was an especially poor showing on attack.

A worrying trend is the Bok defensive line being physically overpowered. We haven't had to handle sustained pressure, and have looked short of fitness when made to defend a few series of phases. We'll be on fast tracks in Australia. Something to consider. 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
28 Aug 2021, 00:35
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28 Aug 2021, 00:35#3
Oh omelette you are so fucking clueless
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
28 Aug 2021, 00:40
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28 Aug 2021, 00:40#4

Well then, you being the expert, you cite one instance of Dumbian physically dominating anyone. And reference one instance of Dumbian creating anything. The floor is yours. 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
28 Aug 2021, 11:18
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28 Aug 2021, 11:18#5
The opinion of the wily many capped ab Conrad Smith means nothing to the all knowing Org. Pay no attention to Conrad I know much more about center play than this ignorant guy.Dave an omelette is useful the Org is not. 
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
28 Aug 2021, 12:52
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28 Aug 2021, 12:52#6

Smith hasn't analysed these Bok games. He doesn't have detailed breakdowns of the Bok game from beginning to end, he doesn't have figures for ball circulation between positions, plays, patterns and shapes. He doesn't have detailed stats to reference. Nobody you quote has any of these. They have a general impression that is heavily influenced by popular opinion, which in turn is influenced by the general opinion of the media scribes who, just like Smith, haven't done any research or are unable to conduct any kind of analysis. Media scribes get by with a scant sheet of jargon and build on an impression based on a few key events or by how often they see a certain player's face pop up on tv. Sometimes they are influenced by the commentary which itself doesn't have any post-game analysis and is an in-the-moment emotional response to the unfolding action. It's not there to be a technical resource on the game, but to add colour by describing the action and adding emotional energy to the viewing experience. They can offer some basic information on the sport to help causals understand what is happening. 

You see Sitzsack, this is why you plastiks are always wrong. It's a cycle of non-information, a chain, and you are all at the bottom of that chain. Little carp feeding on krill. That's why none of you can hold your own in a debate, because you don't possess any information, just names and the odd quote. You can't analyse the game for yourselves and don't understand the game well enough to discern anything beyond a very basic level. Anyone who has done even a little research blows you all away. This week alone, I have been dispelling general impression after general impression which tells me you plastiks don't just have a very poor understanding of the game of rugby, but you don't even have a sound knowledge of Bok rugby. Shameful from beginning to end. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Aug 2021, 00:51
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29 Aug 2021, 00:51#7

The assertion:


“They’ve played a British & Irish Lions series together and been really good and strong. That test match against Argentina on the weekend was good as well so I think it’s going to be a great challenge for the All Blacks and the likes of David Havili moving forward,” Hall said.

“It’s the physicality, and they’re bigger men. It’s going to be a test for our midfield, ALB or Rieko at centre. It’s going to be a big battle when we hopefully get the opportunity to play them.”

The facts:


Lukhanyo Am….6 ft 1 inch/205 lbs.

Rieko Iaone…6’ 4”/227 lbs

The education of HasBeeeeeeen continues. How can you take this garbage seriously….LMAOFY!


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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
29 Aug 2021, 08:07
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29 Aug 2021, 08:07#8

The Plastiks getting woke on "facts"... 

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