Jake's Montpellier climbs to second....

.....on a stream of tries resulting in bonus points, including this one:
'The game seemed all but over as a contest three minutes into the second period as South African centre Francois Steyn sold a dummy and then cut inside William Whetton, finding a free channel to dive over next to the posts.'
Our professionals are playing overseas while we struggle to find test caliber players. And our best coach is helping French rugby while Bok rugby implodes. It's a strange, strange world we live in Master Jacques.

 Montpellier beats one of the weakest teams in the competition - Brive - and Mozart gets into a drama queen act.   This is extremely early in the competition and I do not have a record of results - bar the present log.  Five games played and 2 losses  place Montpellier third on the log at present.   And the accolade is for Jake and Fat Fransie.   That has been Mozart's downfall - he knows nothing about what he writes and then he tries to preach to us about it.       

 "Our best coach" ... ?????
Pffffffffffffffffffffffffffhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaaaa!!!

ou maaaikie and wee cc are far too dumb to appreciate a coach of Jake whites class. 
face facts Jake's record speaks for itself but small oaks like ou maaaikie and wee cc try to crit the man and yet how good is their rugby ac*umen one has to ask. these intellectual rugby midgets criting a coach like jake is hilarious. clowns are appreciated here!

 Beeno - I do not denigrate White as a coach.  The ideal coach he is not - he has deficiencies such as Jake-Ball rugby and the lack of knowledge and proper inside in backline play,   That is where he failed for the Sharks.  What I do not like is the absolute belief by some that he is the answer to everything.   I for one prefer him as a coach to Coetzee - who is a weaker version of White in virtually all respects.   However, as a coach he is not really the answer - since he is too much of a pre-2008 coach, who has not adjusted his ideas to the present rugby laws and whenever his teams came up in final stages of any competition they flopped because of that.   However, e will be an improvement on Coetzee - but as I already said I do not think he is the answer to our present rugby vows.   As for Fat Fransie - White is welcome to him at Montpellier.   He has been useless in Super Rugby and can do a lot worse for the Springboks.    

If White was coaching the SA A team, they would not have lost to the Poms. As for the Boks White would instantly improve their fortunes.....and Frans is 10 times the rugby player Allrnde is. 

 Shall we go back to the last game De Allende played against Fat Fransie and the latter landed twice on his backside trying to tackle De Allende?  Shall we go back to 2014 when Steyn caused ball possession 32 times - more than any other player in the whole of Super Rugby ever?   Shall we go back to when you moaned about De Allende's defense in Super Rugby and it turned out that Fat Fransie's missed tackle ratio was worse than De Allende's.   If White coached the SA "A" team the losses would have been much bigger so keep on wishing for things you cannot prove.    

 May I add - Montpellier is third on the log - not second!!!!

 Positions on logs change all the time Tokkie....I was quoting from SARugby mag. Still I do note Montpellier have the best points differential among all the clubs and have conceded 5 less points a game than any other team. How the Boks could do with some of that defensive competence.

 It entirely depends on the teams Montpeller played thus far.   If they did not beat Brive it would be seriously defective.   Let me remind you that Montpellier ended up in a play-off position last year and was badly beaten in that game.   I agree about the issue of defensive competence - but what about attacking competence - something Jake is not really an expert on.  

 It entirely depends on the teams Montpeller played thus far.   If they did not beat Brive it would be seriously defective.   Let me remind you that Montpellier ended up in a play-off position last year and was badly beaten in that game.   I agree about the issue of defensive competence - but what about attacking competence - something Jake is not really an expert on.  

 They ended in a playoff position.....so where were they the year before?

Montpellier 2014-15 Top 14 Season:
Table position: 8Points difference: +21Log points: 55
Montpellier 2015-16 Top 14 Season:
Table position: 3Points difference: +154Log points: 81
Rather an improvement, eh wot? They also scored 186 points more than in the previous season: 723 vs 537. Also 33 more tries (77 vs 44). 

The owner of Montpellier made available a fortune to contract new players and White fielded a team with only 3 French players at one stage last year.   There was NO possible comparison with the previous year because it was an entire; different player squad last year compared with the previous year.  The two rugby world experts did not even realise that - but no real surprise on my part.      

33 more tries....impressive.

Nah, I freely admit I know little to nothing about the Top 14. The numbers were just interesting. Your information is noted Mike.

Good point ou Maaik. No substitute for money. Just look at Manchester City! Mid-table one season, champions the next . . . and does anyone seriously think Roberto Mancini is a world-beating coach?

 Top spenders in the French top 14 this year. Montpellier 8th in spending 3rd in the log . schplottttttttttttttt......hahaha, it's so easy when you are dealing with fools like Tokkie and Rooibandy.



Toulouse €31.5m


Auvergne €30.5m

Stade Francais €27.5m

Toulon: €25.5m

Racing 92: €25.4m

Lyon: €24.6m

Bordeaux-Begles: €24.2m

Montpellier: €24.2m

Grenoble: €21.7m

Castres: €20.6m

Pau: €19.6m

Jake White with a specialist backline coach would be very good.
 He at least knows how to win - even if he is another clueless backline coach in SA.

Typical deceitful and dumb response. Ou Maaik wasn't talking about how much money the club spent relative to other clubs, he was simply pointing out that the club spent a lot of money changing the team . . . which they did . . . unless our resident braggart thinks 24 million Euros is a trifling amount!

Numbers confusing you again Rooibandy? Every French club is in the process of dramatically increasing their budgets.....the increase at Montpellier is not unique. But performing in the top 3 with a budget below the mid point is....enjoy your crow.

 Mozart  - Please note that the Montpellier spending spree was LAST YEAR.   I know you cannot correctly deal with advancing years - but this stretch the issue a bit.     

"Mozart  - Please note that the Montpellier spending spree was LAST YEAR.   I know you cannot correctly deal with advancing years - but this stretch the issue a bit."
Sssssssssssscchpplotttttttttt!!!
LMAO . . . FY!

 Okay 2014 budgets........schplotttttttt!

The Top 14 Budgets

• Toulouse - €35m
• Clermont Auvergne - €27.9m
• Toulon - €25.37m
• Racing Metro - €25.36m
• Stade Francais - €25.28m
• Montpellier - €22.54m
• Lyon - €21.03m
• Grenoble - €20.77m
• Castres - €19.04m
• Bordeaux-Begles - €15.86m
• Bayonne - €15.76m
• La Rochelle - €14.47m
• Oyonnax - €14.28m
• Brive - €13.63m

...................

Moffie, you have so much egg all over your face, how can we be sure this is you or Ang ela Merkel?

 And here's 2013. turns out Montpellier was 6th in spending in 2013, 6th in 2014, and 8th in 2015. Yep Jake sure has benefitted from Montpellier improving their budgets relative to other clubs. They dropped from 6 to 8.
Game, set and match ....hahaha....the usual result. Down go Tokkie and Rooibandy.


Les budgets des clubs de Top 14 pour la saison 2012-2013
ClubBudget prévisionnelEvolution sur un an1. Stade Toulousain35,419M€+ 0,449M€2. ASM Clermont25,52M€+ 1,198M€3. Stade Français22,81M€+ 2,158M€4. RC Toulon21,84M€+ 1,823M€5. Racing-Métro21,74M€+ 0,712M€6. Montpellier17,51M€+ 2,461M€7. Grenoble18,644M€+ 3,744M€8. Bayonne17,96M€+ 0,187M€9. Castres15,61M€+ 1,725M€10. Biarritz17,33M€- 0, 386M€11. Perpignan14,47M€+ 0,483M€12. Bordeaux-Bègles12,862M€+ 0,932€13. CA Brive (promu en Top 14)11,092M€- 0,4M€14. Oyonnax (promu en Top 14)9,172M€+ 3,67M

 Jake went to Montpellier in 2015 and the buying spree commenced immediately,   What the hell has 2013 -14  to do with the discussion?  You have missed the pot once again.   

 By the way Mozart - are those the budgets for the various Top 14 player salary expenditure you are talking about?    What do not get into your thick head is the players White brought into the team in 2015 and that the squad was changed completely in 2015 compared to the team in 2014.    I am not overly impressed with your lack of understanding of the situation.  

 By the way Mozart - are those the budgets for the various Top 14 player salary expenditure you are talking about?    What do not get into your thick head is the players White brought into the team in 2015 and that the squad was changed completely in 2015 compared to the team in 2014.    I am not overly impressed with your lack of understanding of the situation.  

Strike!!!!!!!!!!!. I throw a big fat, smelly worm out there and Clever bites like a large mouthed bass. Here are the 2015/16 numbers, with Montpellier 10th in terms of budget increases in the year Jake took over. Can't you tell when you are being set up you queer old coot. What a delightful sting.

du Top 14 en 2015-2016

CLUBBUDGETEVOLUTION SUR UN AN1. Stade Toulousain30,87M€– 4,15M€2. ASM Clermont Auvergne29,2M€+ 1,3M€3. Stade Français27,65M€+ 2,37M€4. RC Toulon26,86M€+ 1,49M€5. Racing Métro 9224,26M€– 1,1M€6. Montpellier Rugby23,46M€+ 0,92M€7. FC Grenoble Rugby21,73M€+ 0,96M€8. Union Bordeaux-Bègles20,43M€+ 4,57M€9. Castres Olympique20,34M€+ 1,3M€10. Section Paloise17,31M€NC (promu en Top 14)11. Stade Rochelais16,43M€+ 1,96M€12. US Oyonnax16,01M€+ 1,73M€13. CA Brive Corrèze15,28M€+ 1,65M€14. SU Agen11,62M€

Apologies Tokkie?

 Mozart stop talking BS.   What has the total player budget of clubs got to do with the actual contracting of new players?   You are totally deluded as per normal.    The list of players and the changes made by White was detailed elsewhere.   You must be the most stupid person ever to come up with that BS,  

Let me help you.....when a club has an ambitious program me of adding new players, total budget goes up. What the numbers show is Montpellier added less talent in the year Jake took over than most other clubs. 
Just apologize. You made another of your unsubstantiated assertions and have been easily exposed.

 Hell and what about the contracts that were cancelled to make replacements possible.  I know more about budgeting than you will ever now - so I know what I am talking about,   I will not apologize to a complete ignoramus in this case.   There were reportedly 15 such terminations and the list of new players were given elsewhere.    I wish you would do a bit of research you come up with bird brain BS.     

Tokkie I made my budget running major global companies for years. I strongly doubt your provincial administration experience compares.....but no matter. This is not a debate it's black and white.....Montpellier did not increase their payments to players faster than other clubs, the reverse is true.

"Tokkie I made my budget running major global companies for years."
The Vegemite salesman trying to pretend he was some kind of global player! Pffffffffhahahahahahaha!
Moffie, you can't fake your character for as many years as you, I and ou Maaik have known one another and ou Maaik is twice the person you could ever aspire to be.

Oh gosh twice, can you multiply by 2 ......you shock me. Or did you use your stubby Welsh thumb....hahaha. Clueless.

 Mozart - I happen to be an advisor to National Treasury on Education finance in SA at a stage when the Rand was stronger than the dollar - the amount involved was well over R1 Billion.    Sorry - but you do not know what the budget means when it comes to implementation if the above stupidity is anything to go by.  

Ou Maaik, when Moffie talks about budget he's talking about how many jars of vegemite he had to sell to break even on the petrol he used.