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Jake White is doing damage to SA Rugby - Jacques du Plessis

Started by clevermike11 REPLIES498 VIEWS· 07 Feb 2015, 12:37
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Feb 2015, 12:37
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07 Feb 2015, 12:37#1

Read the following and see what Snake White is up to:-


"There was massive shock in Pretoria rugby circles on Friday night when it was confirmed that Jacques du Plessis, one of the brightest prospects in South African rugby, had been lured to Montpellier on a two-year deal.

The deal, which is said to be one of the largest in Europe, sees the SA under-20 utility forward join former Springbok coach Jake White's French club for the foreseeable future.

supersport.com’s sources in France have revealed that an offer was first made to Sharks and Springbok lock Pieter-Steph du Toit to join Montpellier, but he turned it down, with Du Plessis finding the money too good to refuse at this stage of his career.

The Bulls were also dealt a further blow with the news that Bok lock Flip van der Merwe will be heading to Clermont at the end of the year.

While Du Plessis will still complete his Super Rugby and Currie Cup seasons with the Bulls, the union, after losing Paul Willemse to Grenoble last year, were looking to the youngster to fill the gap at four lock with Van der Merwe injured, something he looked more than capable of doing in the pre-season 

games.

However, the money was simply too good to refuse, and the Bulls couldn’t compete with the Euro.

The signings aren’t set to be the last as White apparently has a hit list of players he wants for Montpellier and has cash to burn.

Du Plessis starred for the SA under-20s in 2013, and made a name for himself at flank in last year’s Super Rugby competition, and the big utility forward is seen as a certainty for the Springboks in the future.

The offer made to the 21-year-old Du Plessis was way beyond anything the Blue Bulls Company could even dream of putting on the table, according to Bulls High Performance manager Xander Janse van Rensburg.

"Jacques is one of the real upcoming stars in the game and this offer received from France is testament to that. We have been negotiating since June 2014 and he has indicated that he would like to return to the Bulls after the two years. That is good news to us, as he should also be in Springbok contention by that time."

Janse van Rensburg said there had been frank talks for some time between the Bulls and the two locks.

"We want to thank both players, who were upfront with us from the start about offers from abroad. Flip has been a loyal servant to the Vodacom Bulls since 2009 and always made it clear that he would consider offers from abroad after the 2015 Rugby World Cup, especially as he does not have a Springbok contract. He has been a tremendous asset to the whole team and franchise over many years," Janse van Rensburg said.

The Bulls would now need to put more emphasis on their youth brigade, who will need to make the step up quicker to fill the void.

"We have planned for events like this and have some of the best young locks in the country on our books already. Guys like RG Snyman, Dennis Visser, Nicolaas Janse van Rensburg, Marvin Orie, Irne Herbst and Jason Jenkins are all among the best in their age groups and will be able to compete at a very high level," Janse van Rensburg said.

"It remains a massive battle to compete against the massive offers from abroad, especially as the exchange rate counts heavily against us, but we are confident that through good planning and scouting we will be able to remain a very competitive franchise at all levels."

The Bulls also confirmed that, as reported previously, Ulrich Beyers had signed with Bordeaux after completing a trial there."

This is a huge loss to the Bulls and Janse Van Rensburg is wrong about the following:-

""Jacques is one of the real upcoming stars in the game and this offer received from France is testament to that. We have been negotiating since June 2014 and he has indicated that he would like to return to the Bulls after the two years. That is good news to us, as he should also be in Springbok contention by that time."

Du Plessis is already ready to play for the Springboks.   The Bulls should have pensioned off Matfield and use the savings to retain Du Plessis.

WONDER HOW MANY OTHER PLAYERS THE SNAKE WOULD STEAL FROM SA.  GLAD PIETER-STEPH DU TOIT TURNED HIM DOWN. 



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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
07 Feb 2015, 12:52
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07 Feb 2015, 12:52#2

Kak man, how is Jake doing damage by shopping the best potential money can buy!?

SAFFA players are plying their trade all over the world and it's pretty damn low of you to finger-point Jake when it's the practice of several overseas coaches and clubs to load up on players from a country where the currency is worth peanuts.


In case it's escaped your narrow mind set, Jake has a job to do, besides who says some other coach or club wouldn't have made the player in question an offer.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
07 Feb 2015, 13:12
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07 Feb 2015, 13:12#3
Denny
I agree with you - we are indeed living in a global village and people can ply their trade where they want to.
However, here we have a serious coaching deficiency.   If Meyer showed  any faith whatsoever and instead of investing in has-beens and never has-beens the younger players would make their name in international rugby and demand even bigger pay packages in the end.   The players are aware of it  and would wait in accepting offers whilst still very young.   
However,  Meyer thus far showed no faith in the younger players and preferred to select seriously deficient players like Matfield, Steenkamp, Botha and Morne Steyn- leaving the younger players to lose hope of ever playing  international rugby through which means they can enhance their contract value with foreign clubs.   Ludeke of the Bulls is another fool in the same category as Meyer.
Jake identified talented players and go for the better ones ignored by Meyer.   He could help the Sharks by taking Francois Steyn off their hands.   Maybe he realizes that Fransie has already cooked his goose in France and the rest of the clubs will laugh their asses off if he does that.    His club will not accept that one and will not release the money to do that.   Montpellier will not through Francois Steyn want to be caught in the same trap like the case is with Stade Francais as to Morne Steyn.             
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
07 Feb 2015, 20:23
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07 Feb 2015, 20:23#4
Just wait till the RWC is over. It will get even worse.
Oly massive sponsorship from companies can save the situation. I have little doubt that had we kept our players here in SA we would seldom not be Super rugby and RC winners.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Feb 2015, 11:11
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08 Feb 2015, 11:11#5
 Another massive loss. Let's hope Meyer wakes up and selects him as a Bok this season as he should of Willemse last season.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Feb 2015, 12:02
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08 Feb 2015, 12:02#6
 Dave
Meyer waking up to reality - that would be a miracle equal to me walking on water.   Meyer cannot do without he players so deep in his ass that if they have to do a tonsils operation on him - they would have to cut Matfield hair first to get to the tonsils.
Hell we have real fossils as coaches and then expect miracles.  


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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
08 Feb 2015, 12:12
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08 Feb 2015, 12:12#7

Mike


Meyer can't make knee jerk selections either, what I'm saying is that he can't dump current players every time a new bright young talent pops his head. 


You're not wrong about having fossils for coaches and for that reason I'm not sticking my neck out for any of our franchises....why would anyone knowing we're stuck with the same coaches.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Feb 2015, 12:20
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08 Feb 2015, 12:20#8
 Denny
The question of kneejerk selections by Meyer is not the problem - with him the problem has always been his preference for the pals he coached with the Bulls without real regard to performances.   
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
08 Feb 2015, 12:25
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08 Feb 2015, 12:25#9
You make a solid point. The Bok backline coach, can't remember his name, used to be an average centre, had zero previous coaching experience but Meyer made him the national backline coach.....it buggers belief.  
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Feb 2015, 12:45
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08 Feb 2015, 12:45#10
 Spot on Mike, Meyer is ignorant to who the talent in SA is. He would rather have washed up has beens like Bakkies and Matfield in his squad than bright young talents like Willemse and du Plessis.
It's madness and short sighted of the highest order.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
08 Feb 2015, 14:36
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08 Feb 2015, 14:36#11
 Meyer lost the plot in 2014. CAn he get back up on the saddle is the question.However are we seeing the demise of SA rugby is a fair question. Who will remain after 2015. As soon as we get a talented player he will be off the the NH or Japan. With OZ not above poaching our players either.
I dont think any honourable SA born payer would want to go to NZ so we are safe on that score I guess. 
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Feb 2015, 15:25
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08 Feb 2015, 15:25#12
Meyer is crap. The bloke is blissfully ignorant when it comes to the talent he has at his disposal simply because he is blinded by his warped loyalty to players who were great some 5 or more years ago.
This clown is going to see us exit the WC at the quarters stage mark my word.
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