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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
20 Jan 2015, 11:58
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20 Jan 2015, 11:58#1

the Proteas prep going into the WC?


The big 3 have certainly looked after themselves, by big 3 I mean Oz, England and India, the countries who rule cricket.

Just how coincidental is it that they're playing each other in a triangular series just prior to the WC. By the time the series is over they'd be familiar with the wickets and conditions.


Oz scrapped the triangular series yonks ago only to revive it in the WC year, NZ will be fine as they are playing most of their matches on home turf.


I believe the Proteas, Windies and minnow teams won't have as good a preparation as the Big 3.

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
20 Jan 2015, 12:24
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20 Jan 2015, 12:24#2
 They would also be familiar with each others' strengths and weaknesses. Two, or three dogs, in this case, fighting over a bone...................
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
20 Jan 2015, 12:53
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20 Jan 2015, 12:53#3
 
Good point Denny ... makes me wonder whether De Villiers was really that good ... or was it a matter of the bowling attack being so poor ... let's face it there were quite a few full tosses in the mix ... easy to dispense with ...

I wouldn't count my chickens quite yet ...
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
20 Jan 2015, 13:09
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20 Jan 2015, 13:09#4

Absolutely....AB is very good, of that there is no doubt but he has to frank his form on the world stage at the WC  preferably against the Ozzie pace attack if he wants to take his place amongst the legends of the game. 


They're now comparing him to Viv Richards.....I hesitate, there was an aura about Viv, bowlers crapped themselves and young up and coming bowlers were put to the sword with devastating effect subsequently ending their careers. Viv also  won the Windies a WC.


Three batsmen scored centuries in that last ODI......was it because of great batting or piss poor average bowling?



I'm afraid there's some questions to be answered....time will tell.

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
20 Jan 2015, 13:21
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20 Jan 2015, 13:21#5
 CleanCut

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Posts: 2383 RE: Just how good is....
January 20, 2015, 12:53:40  
Good point Denny ... makes me wonder whether De Villiers was really that good ... or was it a matter of the bowling attack being so poor ... let's face it there were quite a few full tosses in the mix ... easy to dispense with ...

I wouldn't count my chickens quite yet ...


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A bit of both, I suppose.
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BlikkiesPro1,526 posts
20 Jan 2015, 18:50
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20 Jan 2015, 18:50#6
Chris G a y le would never bow to a batter if he reckons the guy is not good. Chris should know.  
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Sharky54Club Pro247 posts
20 Jan 2015, 18:58
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20 Jan 2015, 18:58#7
Come now guys...we all know the problem with South Africa in world cup cricket has nothing to do with form or preparation - it has to do with CHOKING ! Almost every world cup we lose to k@k teams we are expected to beat. Not so ?

Our biggest threat is not Australia, England, India, Sri Lanka....

Our biggest threat is our own minds...
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
20 Jan 2015, 19:31
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20 Jan 2015, 19:31#8

Very good point denny. I'm also wondering whether beating up on the WI in an endless series of meaningless contests at home is helping or misleading us.....regards secondary bowlers and the ability of our batsmen is a tight spot.  I suppose the fact that we played Oz in Oz  last November helps but the WI are not exactly showing toughness and guile.

 

 

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BlikkiesPro1,526 posts
20 Jan 2015, 22:39
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20 Jan 2015, 22:39#9

Memories are a bit short (like mine!).


If some still question AB's brilliance, then look at this:


 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_UPBYMYpcI



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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
21 Jan 2015, 09:01
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21 Jan 2015, 09:01#10

Blikkies


The debate is not about AB's brilliance, the debate is whether he can take his place alongside of WC greats, we all know that's he' exceptionally talented and that he has a good record but there's just something more a player has to achieve to be a legend.   

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 Jan 2015, 11:01
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21 Jan 2015, 11:01#11
 The shorter the duration of the game the more luck you need. What is really chocking sharktwit is when a young WP side travels to play the near full strength sharks in Durban and wins the Currie Cup!    Test are the measure and we are number 1.Not too sure why anybody thinks Viv Richards was that good. Test average of 50.23. many guys have bettered that. We have three of the best in Ab, Amla and Faf. 
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
21 Jan 2015, 11:58
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21 Jan 2015, 11:58#12

Did you ever have the privilege of seeing Sir Viv Richards play? ....or per chance follow his career? 



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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
21 Jan 2015, 12:11
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21 Jan 2015, 12:11#13

I guess the answer is ......no.


Here, a titbit to enlighten you....not that it will help.



 "He arrived at that mantra on his first tour to Australia in 1975-76, with Ian Chappell's team in full flight behind the berserkers of Dennis Lillee and Jeff Thomson. So fast were they bowling at that point in their careers that they were quite literally unplayable. Thomson, in particular, could send a ball screaming from one end of the pitch to another in less time than science tells us a human being can possibly react.

And Richards played that series as the West Indians would play every series for the following decade or so. That is, at full tilt - with maximum prejudice and malice directed at the fast men who were trying to undo him. No matter how short the ball, or how steeply it rose off the pitch to tear at his throat, he fairly skipped on to the front foot to smash away one boundary after another."

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
21 Jan 2015, 12:58
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21 Jan 2015, 12:58#14

and here is another titbit...


 "For all their blinding pace, both Lillee and Thomson spent much of that summer standing helplessly, mouths agape, as their lightning bolts screamed back overhead to clatter loudly into sightscreens and picket fences. Richards - half-smile, half-sneer - dared them to bowl faster."



Now that's what I call greatness.



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