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Kiwi's to Trial 2 on Field Refs for Cheating Purposes

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sharkbokCaptain23,279 posts
18 Dec 2015, 05:42
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18 Dec 2015, 05:42#1
Cape Town - Two referees will officiate together during New Zealand's national provincial championship next year, the Stuff.co.nz website reports.
Unlike South Africa's Varsity Cup, where the dual-referee system saw each official take charge of one half of the field, the second on-field ref will be primarily used in New Zealand to police the opposition.
Current laws state a ruck is formed when a player from each team are on their feet over the ball. Now the word 'ruck' will be replaced by 'breakdown', which will be formed when just one attacking player is over the ball on the ground.
Once a breakdown is formed, no one player from either side will be able to play at the ball with their hands, but they will be able to enter the breakdown from any angle as long as they have come from an onside position.
That will bring an end to the penalisable offence of 'side entry' with the hope less penalties are conceded.
There are five proposed law changes in total:
1. Two on-field referees
2. Removal of the 'gate' entry at the breakdown
3. Tackler and arriving players can enter from midpoint of breakdown as long as they come from an onside position
4. Tackler no longer has 360 degree rights to the ball
5. Offside lines one metre behind hindmost foot at breakdown
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
18 Dec 2015, 06:09
#2
18 Dec 2015, 06:09#2
 Cheating purposes ?So is your avatar actually green with envy rather than some magic mask ?
AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
18 Dec 2015, 11:34
#3
18 Dec 2015, 11:34#3
 in the original from stuff.co there's nothing about "cheating" or "to police the opposition" (it's "policing the offside") so WTF are you talking about?

here's the whole article coz I think it's interesting and it could be appliedvery soon, in 2017:


Two referees will officiate together during New Zealand's national provincial championship next year as part of a World Rugby trial of proposed rule changes.

The second on-field official will mainly be used to rule on a new offside line that will be moved one metre back from a redefined ruck, where the confusing "gate" will be ditched and the rights of the tackler reduced.


New Zealand Rugby wasn't planning to unveil the proposed rule changes until early next year, but they are widely known after provincial unions sounded out clubs across the country about whether or not they wanted their premier competitions to trial the rules in order to prepare players for the representative season.


Tweaks of the rules had been signalled with All Blacks coach Steve Hansen among the most vocal in saying the game needs to be easier to play, watch and referee, but the move to using two referees as is the case in the National Rugby League is a bold move.


NRL bosses introduced the concept in 2009 and some referees believe it will provide a major improvement in keeping ever creeping defensive players on side. They also believed getting rid of the imaginary "gate" through which players can legally enter the breakdown will make things easier for officials.


It remains unclear exactly what duties each of the on-field referees would have, but is assumed the secondary official would primarily be charged with policing the offside. In league there is a "lead ref" who does the bulk of officiating from the defensive side, though in international matches there is still only one on-field official.


Dual referees aside, the most drastic change to be trialled during New Zealand's newly named Mitre 10 Cup will be at the tackle and ruck respectively.


Under current law a ruck is formed when one player from each team are on their feet, in physical contact, over the ball. The trial will see the word "ruck" replaced by "breakdown", which would be formed when just one attacking player was over the ball on the ground. Once a breakdown is formed, no player from either side will be able to make a play for the ball with their hands, but in the absence of a "gate" would be able to enter the breakdown from any angle as long as they have come from an onside position.


That will see an end to the familiar call of "from the side" with the hope there are less penalties and less confusion about which players are legally trying to enter the most frequent phase of the game.


Essentially defenders will only be able to make a play for the ball if they swoop in, à la Wallabies loose forward David Pocock, before the first arriving attacker can turn the tackle into a breakdown.


Tackler's rights will also be reduced from 360 degrees to 180 degrees, bunting the effectiveness of players like All Blacks openside Richie McCaw, who in his prime made an art form of stealing the ball in the same act as effecting a tackle. With the requirement to get back one metre before returning to the breakdown, tacklers will essentially have only one choice, which will be to roll away.


Law makers are hopeful defences will see opportunity in counter rucking in numbers as opposed to getting their hands on the ball, but coaches spoken to by Stuff believed the rule changes would favour the attacking side by making it difficult to effect a steal at the tackle with defences simply fanning out to form a defensive wall.

Similar dynamics were at play in in Super Rugby during the early 2000s when the Brumbies, under coach Eddie Jones, perfected the art of building pressure through holding the ball through countless phases in order to break down picket fence defensive lines.


There is potential for the new laws, but not the two referees, to be trialled in New Zealand's premier club rugby grade in 2016. Provinces across the country are currently asking their clubs for feedback, although World Rugby would then have to sign off on any changes below the national provincial championship.


The drive for change has been driven by World Rugby who sought feedback from around the globe before ratifying the trials, which will not be restricted to New Zealand.

Hansen has been vocal about his desire to see changes to simplify the breakdown and create time and space for teams to attack, while Chiefs coach Dave Rennie took part in World Rugby's review process in March this year as a member of a Laws Representation Group.


That group presented recommendations to World Rugby in October and following next year's trials any approved changes would come into force in January 2017 in the southern hemisphere and in August that year for the northern hemisphere.


AT A GLANCE

Proposed World Rugby law changes:

1 Two on-field referees

2 Removal of the 'gate' entry at the breakdown

3 Tackler and arriving players can enter from midpoint of breakdown as long as they come from an onside position

4 Tackler no longer has 360 degree rights to the ball

4 Offside lines one metre behind hindmost foot at breakdown

 - Stuff

AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
18 Dec 2015, 11:44
#4
18 Dec 2015, 11:44#4
 this would chnge the whole attack-defense approach and seems that it would favour the attacking team,... let see how the trials go
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
18 Dec 2015, 16:06
#5
18 Dec 2015, 16:06#5
 Basque, you are way too serious and too angry....ch illax bro.
BL
bluebokPro3,977 posts
18 Dec 2015, 16:20
#6
18 Dec 2015, 16:20#6
Anything that ensures a higher percentage of correct calls are made during any rugby match, gets the thumbs up from me! 
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
19 Dec 2015, 03:00
#7
19 Dec 2015, 03:00#7
 Unless you get 2 barneses blundering about looking all one eyed at everything that doesnt sing Waltzing Matilda .
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 Dec 2015, 13:29
#8
21 Dec 2015, 13:29#8
 Anything that cleans up the rotten mess must be widely welcomes apart from the down under types. The way they view it two crooked refs are better than one! I think oz refs are not quite in the same bent class as nz refs warped DUD.

Beeno as always on top of the situation.
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
21 Dec 2015, 13:42
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21 Dec 2015, 13:42#9
 Havent you got some red haired arshole to lick somewhere ou half-wit ? Give it a good buffing when your done theres a good boy.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 Dec 2015, 14:08
#10
21 Dec 2015, 14:08#10
Now that you mention it (Thought you indicated it was becoming a sore point for you due to drubbing you are getting) lets say it again - Trump for President and Cruz for V ice President. Hillary for the clink and ditto obanana - he should be nailed for treason. Failing to protect the American public etc etc.

WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
22 Dec 2015, 01:14
#11
22 Dec 2015, 01:14#11
 Well the beensh!t back up your nonsense ,you keep avoiding me on this .Put up or shut up whacker and take me on ,trump loses and doesnt become US president and you leave same for me if he wins .Come on ya wee coward back up your garbage .Bootlicker you are.
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
22 Dec 2015, 09:31
#12
22 Dec 2015, 09:31#12
 Oh my goodness ou warped DUD thinks taking a bet is a sure sign of courage - like those losers at the racecourse! Hahahahahahahahahahaha what a foolish ranter this oak is.No I am not placing any bets but am happy to report Trumps chances just keep growing! One by one Americains are awakening from the slumber and decades of intense brianwashing by the political globalistic, multicutural, one world order elitists who have come close to bankrupting the USA and ruining the country. O banana's "change we can" rallying cry was quite correct. 15 trillion debt became 20 trillion! What a disaster he has been along with that complete dope hillary clink who is proving to be a pathelogical liar.One cant however expect feeble minded ranters like ou warped DUD to understand all this. This empty simply has no clue whatsoever!
Hillary clink accused Trump of being a ISIS recruiter. Absurd of course but boy did it backfireDonald Trump may not be in any ISIS recruitment videos - but guess which notorious 'fornicator' is?

A propaganda video the ISIS terror army released last month in several languages used the image of former U.S. President Bill Clinton as a rallying point, calling him a 'fornicator' whose wishes were carried out by America's military in the last decade of the 20th Century.

The four-minute video, titled 'No Respite,' urges male Muslims to take up the cause of the ISIS 'caliphate' and counter the influence of America.

Conservative bloggers leapt on it Monday to cry hypocrisy.

Hillary Clinton, the Democratic Party's front-runner to succeed President Barack Obama, claimed during a primary debate on Saturday that Donald Trump's heated anti-Muslim rhetoric had become a recruiting tool for the Middle Eastern terrorists.


Bwahahhahahahaha poor old Hilalry clink bombs out. She is incidently being referred to a a terrible liar.by folk of different political views. Away with this disgusting candidate. The disatreous policies of this clown and the other clown o banana have done every thing they can to advance islam and invite islam into the country. They need to be taken to court in due course on treason charges.


WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
22 Dec 2015, 10:06
#13
22 Dec 2015, 10:06#13
 Blah blah blah .....usual cut and pste sh!t no bugger reads .Idiot .
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