Moz you are a fucking idiot
No one said Kolisi was our greatest player - Rooi is spot on - but he is a damn fine player, certainly our best openside in my opinion an opinion shared by many
Easily the best captain we have had - ahead of Pienaar and Smit who were great
I like Siya, but he stood on Eben and Diane's shoulders...still, he was the leader...well done....the others accepted his lead..
It’s not possible to say Kolisi stood on others shoulders - how the hell wouid we know - we are not privy to the inner goings on
Its all wild speculation stemming from where?
how the hell wouid we know - we are not privy to the inner goings on
You seem to think you know, though, since you're calling everyone who disagrees with you idiots with zero knowledge.
My take on Kolisi is based on his interviews - a born leader, inspirational - so it’s pretty obvious he is no different on the field
We can’t say the same of say PSDT’s interviews now can we?
We can’t say the same of say PSDT’s interviews now can we?
Exactly, so why is he the one standing up when the inspirational born leader sits around sucking on a water bottle in the very moment that inspirational leadership is required?
The talk wouid have happened in the change room by the coaching side at halftime.
Chat in the huddle after the coaches have had their say comes from any of the senior players
Are you seriously stupid enough to now define Kolisi’s lack of leadership on the strength of PSDT the quiet one for once having a say
Unbelievable
In a World Cup semi final with his team demotivated and losing? Absolutely.
If you're not going to show up as a leader then, when do you want to show up?
Well we do know who was the captain. All this conjecture is meaningless.
Calling Duane Vermeulen "Diane" is also pretty disrespectful if you ask me.
Fucking pathetic - you seriously think it’s the players that raise the players at halftime - what do you think Rassie and co do at halftime huh?
Rassie scolded them and then fucked off. Watch your Chasing the Sun S2 Ep 4 to see the mood in the changing room after that until PSDT gets up. He didn't raise anyone's spirits.
I do notice you moving into apologist territory Dave, now shifting any leadership responsibility to the coaches and away from your " inspirational born leader" figure.
No dumbfuck - the chat is done by the coaching staff - they fuck off as you say and then the players usually form a huddle where any one of the senior players/leaders say something. Its an in the moment thing - it’s not always Kolisi that is going to say something in the huddle - he respects the fact that there are a number of leaders in the squad - that chat comes from either Kolisi, Vermeulen, Eben or Pollard - seems very seldom by PSDT, which is why it was that much more impactful coming from the quiet leader not the usual vocal one
Im struggling to understand what part of this you are not getting - have you ever played rugby, have you ever been in a change room and team huddle at halftime? Clearly not
So point me to one measurable inspirational Kolisi moment, Dave. And I don't mean when the camera focuses on him next to the field where he's been sitting for 30 minutes while the rest of the team won the playoff without any input or leadership from him with Matthew Pearce just about bursting into tears yelling "Siyamthanda Kolisi, inspirational" into the commentary mic.
Im not privy to those moments so could not provide you with any inspirational leadership moment by any player on the planet not now not ever
Point to me any moment on the field he appears to take charge….hell any moment he is giving the players instructions…and player he encourages after something has gone wrong.
There is zero evidence of leadership beyond the anthem and good evidence we did better in the WC playoffs when he was off the park.
Hype and nonsense.
Oh what a load of utter shit - how exactly am I meant to point that out huh? Trawl through every game he has played
Your take on Kolisi as a player and leader is on par with your ignorant take on PSDT and de Allende
Clueless
Your take on the same players is ignorant ….you just believe. When I ask you to demonstrate field leadership by Kolisi nothing comes to mind. To demonstrate Dud Allende accelerating the line or putting a player through the gap….nothing. Or what Dud Toit does exceptionally well beyond tackling nothing.
Pretty soon you’l tell me about what the ‘experts’ say. For you it’s a question of ‘feelings’, facts just annoy you.
Remember when the Deysel twins were going to dominate rugby, Another feeling.
You are welcome to your own views, but if others disagree, it’s not automatic that they are the idiots.
I just imagine some kid coming to Dave's ice cream van..."Sir, there are ants in my ice cream..."
"Shut up you ignorant little prick! Here, look at this article! See? It says my ice cream is the bestest."
Nah Plum.... there would at least be 3 "fucks" in there somwhere....possibly even 5, and as much as 7
You are giving Dave way too much credit here
Easy to see why this place is still fucked up
The two dumbest cunts arguing mozwrnkly dick and cunty boy have enough shit between them to sink the Bismarck
Dave best you leave while you’re ahead bud
Nah Blackboy I enjoy kicking these ignorant fools into touch each day
Moz it’s simple there is absolutely no chance in hell I’m going to trawl through footage to find your requested evidence - I don’t have the time, the desire but most importantly, I’m not stupid enough to believe that that evidence would have you change your ignorant mind on players like PSDT, DA etc
When has there ever been a point in flogging a dead horse
It just astounds me that you believe a twice world player of the year is as shit as you make him out to be yet you salivate over a player who is physically incapable of performing the role of the position he holds
That says everything I need to know about your take on players
There you go again….McCaw was twice world player of the year and you don’t rate him….but because Dud was more popular than Eben and won Eben’s award, I’m supposed to rate him.
Do you get how screwed up your logic is Dave.
I do rate PSDT... but I can just never rate Dave's logic......
Some things are just impossible to do
"….but because Dud was more popular than Eben and won Eben’s award,"
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaha!
Oh good Elerdy Bear has finally understood my schooling and corrected his pompus (sic) post. No thanks though….very poor form.