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Krige picks his Bok loose trio

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
11 Dec 2014, 14:07
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11 Dec 2014, 14:07#1

and seems about where I am on the subject barring clarification re Burger.


Cape Town - Former Springbok captain Corne Krige has revealed who he'd like to see as the Bok loose trio at next year's Rugby World Cup.

In an interview withNetwerk24, Krige said a loose forward combination of Francois Louw, Marcell Coetzee and Duane Vermeulen excited him.

Krige said the Boks dearly missed Louw on their recent year-end tour to Europe.(Agreed Louw has been verey good for the Boks)

The 29-year-old flank last played for the Springboks in their Rugby Championship Test against the All Blacks in Wellington on September 13.

He underwent neck surgery 10 weeks ago but will make his return for his English club, Bath, in a European Champions Cup game against Montpellier on Friday.

Krige though felt Louw's layoff may not be a bad thing in the long run.

"I think the rest could be good for him. It will take a while before he regains top form, but I believe he will be 100% fit by the time the World Cup starts and he'll be able to make an enormous impact."

The 2015 Rugby World Cup, to be staged in England and Wales, runs from September 18-October 31

Nice balance to that trio. plenty of grung and fair pace. Louw is good over the ball etc.

No w please lets just dump wee matfiled and we could then put together a tight five and RWC glory beckons again.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Dec 2014, 14:15
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11 Dec 2014, 14:15#2
 What is new - that is the best trio we can play.   However, we have loosies aplenty - so we will see what the Super Series throws up.   
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
11 Dec 2014, 14:49
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11 Dec 2014, 14:49#3

Bullshit......Arno Botha is twice the player Louw is.....the best trio would be

 

6. Coetzee 7. Botha 8. Vermeulen  

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Dec 2014, 15:16
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11 Dec 2014, 15:16#4

What's the story with Arno? The last I saw of him was his injury in the warm up internationals ages ago. Coetzee really is too easily dominated at 6 and offers little except tackling at 7. Somebody needs to teach this kid to offload....he dies with the ball every time. But in any case we need a power 7.

 

 

Our best loosie trio by far has been Alberts, Louw and Vermeulen, the trio who made our 2013 YE tour a breeze. There you have the power and the finesse needed to dominate in a RWC game. Schalk to come on with 20 minutes to go to spark things a bit.

 

 

But we also need to think about a worst case replacement for Vermeulen....very often he seems like the whole loosie trio. What if he is hurt in one of those physical charges?

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
11 Dec 2014, 15:28
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11 Dec 2014, 15:28#5
I did google Arno and they say he is ready to report or pre season Bulls training on 5th Jan....so he looks good to go  
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Dec 2014, 17:35
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11 Dec 2014, 17:35#6
 No surprise  - Mozart has a loosie that has no ball skills and cannot do ball protection and recovery - who at critical times in matches missed tackles and get pushed off by a backline player landing on his backside - and mozart wants him as a loosie.   To add to his definciecies Alberts is clumsy and fell over his own feet and as slow as a carthorse as well.   His workrate is also the lowest of any player in the Sharks team and equally so in any other team he plays for.   

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
11 Dec 2014, 20:36
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11 Dec 2014, 20:36#7
 We will see how Arno goes after a long injury but at 103 kg I am not pinning too much hope on wee Arno.Snapster your take on Louw is way out. Wake up!


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
11 Dec 2014, 21:01
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11 Dec 2014, 21:01#8
 From the Bulle website:

After a strong showing in the first part in last year’s competition, the former Junior Springbok captain was widely tipped to add senior honours to his resume. This did indeed happen during the 2013 Castle Lager Incoming Series and Botha debuted against Italy in Durban. A week later he tore knee ligaments against Scotland and sat out the rest of the year.
He has recovered well and will be a major force in the Vodacom Bulls pack. His abrasive style, superb skill set and pace will make him a huge threat as ball-carrier, whilst his line-out ability will be well utilised by his team.

Here is hoping Arno makesa huge impact. 


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
12 Dec 2014, 00:13
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12 Dec 2014, 00:13#9
 Beeno
I do not know what happened to Arno.  he got injured in the Nelspruit test in June 2013 was off for the  rest of 2013,  He played in a warm up match for the Bulls and was injured again in January 2014 and off for the rest of this year.   He thus had virtually no rugby for 18 months. 
Nobody knows what he would be like on his return in 2015.   What bothered me was when at his peak in Super 15 in 2013 - h is performances was substantially below that of Lappies Labuschagane - so how good was he really?   
There are a load of potential no 7's that would have to show up in Super 15 next year - or fall from grace permanently.   In view of his long absence from rugby - Botha is defintely one of those.   
    
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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
12 Dec 2014, 10:30
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12 Dec 2014, 10:30#10
 Coetzee does need to learn how to offload to get in that upper echelon of looseforwards in test rugby.
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biltongbekClub Pro749 posts
12 Dec 2014, 10:36
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12 Dec 2014, 10:36#11
I agree Shezza, but he only learnt how to pilfer this season, he can learn that next season  
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
12 Dec 2014, 10:59
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12 Dec 2014, 10:59#12
 BB that is the point. How long does it take you to learn to offload or become a good passer of the ball. What I do know is that Jan Serfonteinn before being coached at the bulle had superb oassing skills and vision. Its absolutely absurd these easy and basic things should not be operating effectively. Another odd thing is that in the home test here in SA I felt they were.
We see great offloads from Cheetahs and Lions players etc etc. It is very annoying to hear the kbbs gloating about wee abs skills thinking they are the only ones who can do it. Ou hacked waaaugh and JW and of course my good friend brycy can become insufferable as they make complete twist of themsleves on this subject! 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
12 Dec 2014, 11:03
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12 Dec 2014, 11:03#13
 BB
I fail to understand the fascination some members have with Willem Alberts.   He had some strong ball carries early in his Springbok jersey and had a reputation of being a very strong tackler.   
However, over the last two seasons - his ball carries dwindled to near to ero with an inability to make more than 2 meters per carry.   His tackling is impeded by his slow pace and strong tackles have become a rarity.
Further negatives are a total inability to protect and recover tackled balls - inadequate ball handling - very low pass and off-loading abilities - clumsiness , as well as a very low work rate in games.
To my mind he is more a tight 5 player than a loosie - being too slow in pace to be an effective loosie
Am I prejudiced or correct in what I wrote about him?
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
12 Dec 2014, 11:44
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12 Dec 2014, 11:44#14

If you think Arno Botha only weighs 103kg Beenkop, you need to get your eyes tested. Those stats are probably the ones he started his career with as an U20......he has muscled up considerably these days. My guess is that he is close to 110kg these days.

 

Louw is ok, nothing special, there are far better loosies about in SA including CJ Stander playing for Munster.

 

Louw would not make my top 10 SA loo sies 

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biltongbekClub Pro749 posts
12 Dec 2014, 12:18
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12 Dec 2014, 12:18#15

Mike, agree in 2012 Alberts was in much better form than the past two years, but from memory he had shoulder injuries that started already in 2012, this long lay off may jut bring him back to his best, which for 50 minutes can be devastating for the opposition.


I am not ready to give up on him yet.  

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