Lambie at flyhalf vs Wales....a mozcroscope

 Mozart
Why did you do a morzoscope on the performance of Francois Steyn in respect of the game last week - we certainly need a good laugh and there surely will be one ina desperate effort on your part to explain away the bugger-ups of our Fransie?

I did a " morzoscope"? News to me.  

 Mozaart
I left the "not"  out so here is the question again
'Why don't you do a morzoscope on the performance of Francois Steyn in respect of the game last week - we certainly need a good laugh and there surely will be one in a desperate effort on your part to explain away the bugger-ups of our Fransie?"

Dave you cant even admit you hoped the Boks would lose and predicted they would lose....even though it's all there in black and white. Your argument is based on the word "would"....which is never a word one would use prospectively anyway. But don't worry if that goes over your head fat man....it is so low!

No Moffie, I never predicted anything and your take on me hoping the Boks would lose is just another pathetic lie.....I see through you old, old fart  

You never predicted anything ....you mean you never predicted anything right....Dontcha greaseball?

Exactly old fart, I made no predictions - wake the fuck up, how obvious is that?  

Woosh  

 Mozart is back - I thought he woulf hide away for a while after he went ballistic recently.
Let me be more explicit.   He had a vicious campaign against Lambie, Jordaan and Reinach and to denigrate them he descended to a level of disinformation and outright lies on this site.   
As part of the campaign he produced what he called a morzoscope on Lambie - where every sentence contained deliberate lies and  bent interpretations.  When challenged to produce a morzoscope dealing with the performance of Francois Steyn last Saturday 0 he ducked and dived to avoid that one.   I specifically asked him to produce one for Steyn - since it would provide great mirth on the site the way he would try to get around Steyn's bugger-ups.
The fact that all of Lambie, Jordaan and Reinach are in the starting line-up for the Sharks showed how the malicious campaign was obviously not based on fact - rather on the twists and turns in Mozart's mind - showed him up as the Kindergaten analyst of rugby performances.    
Now will you apologize for the rubbish you wrote on this site     

They taught him that in divorce court....he thinks that's 'high law'....hahahaha.  

 Oh I see Oom....selection is now vindication. So I'm sure when HM chooses Victor you will remember your new rule. 

Lambie has done nothing. End of story, there is no opinion about this. Plain and simple fact. He has had his chances, far too many I'd say, but the net result is failure. It's a damn disgrace that people still worship this bozo. I don't get why you say Mozart has a malicious campaign, he looks pretty calm to me and has brought some info to the table, I respect that. Nothing but malicious personal attacks going his way in return. That says a lot in my opinion. Stupidz and liars always take the man, never the ball when they start getting exposed. The more exposed the more aggressive.

 M<ozart
It has nothing to do with vindication - it has everything to do with honesty in player performance evaluation.   
Wgebn I say a player buggered up in performance - I point out where he did so and what he did wrong.   I do not try and hide deficiencies also and give credit where credit is due.   What I never do is to build an image of good play by a player - when it is clearly absent.
Your player assessments are farcical and aimed at discrediting of player you do not like and crediting players you like for good play when in fact they failed.   That is why you are always wrong about performances.
As to matfield - I dd not say he would not be selected - matter of fact I think Meyer will select him - but it would be a huge mistake.  He is physically deficient and seriously so and he is going to weaken the Springboks Tight 5 badly and let the team down.   I proved that conclusively - by referring to numerous incidents in matches he played in.   If he is selected it would be a subsequent disaster.  

 Can you quote him as not liking Lambie on a personal level? That's the deal breaker for me on this. If you can then I for one am right behind you on this in that regard.

 Gonzo
I have no problem with Mozart bringing info to the site - but I have a problem when he  brings info which is distorted beyond imagination and then pretends it is the truth.  It is an old story with Mozart - he tries to denigrate players he does not like and do not care whether he use foul means for the purpose.  

clevermike

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July 24, 2014, 18:31:58  Gonzo
I have no problem with Mozart bringing info to the site - but I have a problem when he  brings info which is distorted beyond imagination and then pretends it is the truth.  It is an old story with Mozart - he tries to denigrate players he does not like and do not care whether he use foul means for the purpose.  
You mean info that is distorted like this:

"Bakkies was so poor against Exeter that he was taken of early and replaced by Ali Williams....." and "...he was dropped for the following games and replaced by Ali Williams?". That the kind of distorting you talking about? Just asking.

One example Mike. You talk about me using distorted information. So I'm asking you....provide one credible example of where I have used distorted information. Go ahead....no need to slope off....back up your big mouth.

 The way you blamed Malherbe for the scrumming problems in the Wales game was false and deceptive.   The way you praised Bakkies Botha and try and duck and dive when it became clear that his performance was at best ineffective.
But then the above morzoscope is totally distorted in virtually every sentence,   As was the case of one you produced after the Ellis Park test.   
Then there is your dealing with the issue of Francois  Steyn where you distorted his actual performances to the level where it borders the insane.   The player with the worst tackle stats in 10 and 12 in Super 15 is credited with strong tackling and ignoring of his utterly poor record.
I can fo on and on about the whole issue and go into detail about cirtually every player you dislike and a book can be written about the false accusations made against them by you .         

Wrong...."information which is distorted beyond imagination" is your phrase.
Well in the case of Malherbe he was warned in the first scrum to stay straight. He did fall on his knees. Bismarck and Malherbe were popped...he was penalized and he was warned about a yellow card...subsequently served by Coenie. Those are facts, which incline me to the opinion he had a poor scrumming day. I'm not demanding everybody should share my opinion...but it's supported by facts
In the case of Bakkies he made one TOW and was generally praised for his role. I share that consensus.
As for Frans I would suggest you read Cardinelli's report posted by Oimatey. He is effusive in his praise of Frans' role in helping the Sharks citing exactly the points you have attacked me for....physicality, long line kicks, leadership. Your problem is you skip right over the good stuff your pans do. You have a narrow mistake scoring approach.
So no, none of those were distortions....they were rugby views supported by facts, stats and expert opinion. Try again.

 Mozart  
Lets look at the following incredible drivel:-
"Well in the case of Malherbe he was warned in the first scrum to stay straight. He did fall on his knees. Bismarck and Malherbe were popped."
Do you realize that what you said is physically impossible - a man falling on his kneews cannot pop in scrums - are you dim?
Then as to Fransie - his long kicks are an abortion most of the times.   If it is relieving kicks fine - but they normally represents purely handover to the opposition - often enough LEADING to counter-attackS.   Most of his kicks are anything but strategic - they are inaccccurte and often enough lead to possession losses.
About the kicking issue - Goosen kicks balls much fuither and more effectively than Steyn because he directs kicks much more effectively than Steyn.   Goosen is denigrated for kicking too much and Steyn praised for kicking even more.    
Physicality - and what is the result?   Ineffective ball carries - no line breaks - minimal defenders beaten - and the worst tackle record of any 10 or 12 in Super 15.  What postove results stem from his Physicality?
Just one last question - is Steyn the captain of the Sharks?   What leadership does he provide? 
What you wrote is a sheer example of verbal diarrhea - not factual at all.
You are obviously welcome to have opinions on players - but when you lie and distort info to discredit players you dislike - that makes it unacceptable.     

They were three separate scrums...read  your quote again and try to grasp the first scrum wasn't in the second sentence...dumbo.
Last I heard Goosen wasn't playing for the Sharks...and actually I never denigrated him for kicking too much. I said using the boot more made him a more effective player.
As for leadership, can't you recall White and HM talking about the number of team leaders....they want a team with several leaders. Fransie is a leader in the Sharks team, like it or not.
So no, no lies, no distortions ....just your limited ability to grasp what you read. Try again.

Mozart 
Balls again - who was penalized twice in the Welsh match before Malherbe was penalized - so according to you the ref was wrong all the time.  You must ask how many penalties Jannie gave away at scrums - but you never do - because you are Bullshitting all along.
You are talking absolute BS about the long kicking again.  You said Steyn is so good because of his long range kicking - but in the case of Goosen - who has a 100 better and more accurate kicking  game than Steyn  - you criticize him.  
A leader that buggers up in performances is NOT needed.   Anybdofy expect from a leader to set an example in performance - what example does Steyn set with his hopeless attacking game, his seriously inaccurate froom hand kickcing game and his poor defensivve record?   
Your lies and distortions are endless - so go and think again.  and stop trying to write up players you like and denigrate those you dislike.   It ultimately exposes you for what you really are - especially your Kindergarten level rugby knowledge.  

Wrong again Mikey you shitty old liar. I have always noted Goosen's length. My issue with him is the willingness/ability to take lots of contact. Now piss off....you are wasting m y time.

 

mozart

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May 18, 2014, 00:28:00  Actually I think Goosen may have more distance than Frans on the punt, not off the tee. It is interesting Goosen was more willing to take contact today. Contract in pocket?Although a lot of the time he ran to the tackling line and passed just before contact....those passes were often hard on the receiver.

 

 Mozart
Go and have  a look at the message I wrote about player assessments and then do real performance assessments - not the BS that is standard to your so0-called morzoscopes that is aimed to find fault with players - even if there are no faults in evidence.  
Stop being a one-incident jerk showing nio real appreciation of any rugby knowledge or the equicalent of what a kindegaten kid knows about rugby.   
Incidentally the one so-called "nice" comment on Goosen's kicking  was not your original comment damning him for kicking balls away.  It came after it was pointed out to you that the kicking game was very effective - unlike the rubbish Steyn always kicked.    
"It is interesting Goosen was more willing to take contact today.  Although a lot of the time he ran to the tackling line and passed just before contact....those passes were often hard on the receiver."
Thanks for reminding me of the above.  Your abysmally deficient knowledge of rugby is clearly illustrated by the above two sentences.   A flyhalf attacking the gain line draws in defenders and creates space for others to operate in.  A flyhalf like Steyn runs straight at the first defender and gets tackled - never drawing in defenders or timing the passing of the ball - thus never creating space for other players to operate in.    In virtually all cases the only thing he achieves - playing at flyhalf or center - is to crashball followed by another maul.      

Dont you get it....nobody reads those long, woeful posts of yours. You made a point...I debunked it as usual. Crawl away.  

 Mozart
Your piss-brain comments shows how really poor your rugby knowledge really is.   You really are a jerk - who se comments on player performances on this site is dishonest and superficial.  So crawl away yourself.  

 "A flyhalf like Steyn runs straight at the first defender and gets tackled - never drawing in defenders or timing the passing of the bal"

I don't mean to be an ass Mike but you contradict yourself there. Once the defender is engaged the reiceive must choose a running line. Will he run an in or out line? That affects the way the players around the receiver run too. It's more complicated then that. But wait? He could run an slider or blocker, or switch with a 11 or 15 or 13 or they could be decoys. 10 could loop, cut out, but with what? How are the others going to be moving if he does any of those? They all affect his effectiveness. I suppose what im saying is that you got to have some options. the receiver running directly into the body ofd the defender is the bigger issue here.

 Well if you oaks would read my post about it not being impossible for the Sharks to win you would see Jake rates Lambie highly as a flyhalf. Master Jake and Beeno on the same page. I am though concerned about Lambie's lack of game time.
Could you kids please stop your playground battles from time to time - just to show us all you can behave. We need reassurance you oaks are adults! 

 I dont think Jake rates Lambie that well. He said the same thing about Jaco and Pretorius, he backs you to give you confidence, but like those two he really wanted Butch. Jake wants a Toomua, which is why he liked Frans at 10 but then Frans is his best 12 so whats the guy to do? stick with lambie until the youngsters arent so noobish. Lambino is an exposed mythical creature. future generations will have stories of him in their little kids books.

 Gonzo
 Since when is  Steyn the best 12 in the Sharks team - - the real soboteur of backline play and bloody useless in defense?
Problem is that since  Steyn does not have  enough sense to sum up situations and take a variety of potential options  - he never runs according to the options outlined by you - the only thing he does is running straight at the first  defender and he does not pass balls to any possible recipient that can do something constructive with the balls.
A dead loss at 10 and the same at 12.   If you do not believe me - go and watch the 2012 tests in which Steyn played - he did the same things then as he is doing now.   Plumtree identified that problem and clearly stated he is not a center - he should be played at full back.  Everyone shouted and screamed about it at the time - but it really is factual - Steyn is really not  center anymore and the id ea to play him at 10 is sheer madness.     

Bozo, what you think is vastly different to reality.......where the fuck do you pick up that Jake does not rate Lambie........would that be the Lambie who walks straight back into the starting 10 spot in a semi after being out injured for months.......man you are stupid

 Saffex
Don't you get it?  The terrible 2 (Mozart and Gonzo - aka Sun Tzu - aka Card - aka whatever else) have weird ideas about player eprformances and then come up with the idea that Steyn is the ideal flyhalf for the Sharks  and everyone else must be denigrated.   To that end they try every trick in  the book - and some outside of it as well - and by disinformation and malicious lies try and get support for their rank stupidity.    

Moffie's views on players are the least accurate I have ever witnessed, they are so absurd that I often wonder what rugby he actually watches.
There is no supporter more anti SA players than this old man - its pretty sad and must be really shit being a rugby supporter in his shoes
Bozo is just another new idiot on here - I cant take the ignorant prick seriously

Dave and Mike...partners....each one a little uncomfortable because they each  know they are chumming up with a dummy.