JWJust_win
Captain18,570 posts
JWJust_winCaptain18,570 posts
27 Nov 2014, 08:37#2
Them Lamb it is. IMO not a bad choice as Pollard needs to be developed & not always thrown in the deep end. Pollard off the bench is the right call.
BIbiltongbek
Club Pro749 posts
BIbiltongbekClub Pro749 posts
27 Nov 2014, 08:47#3
I think Meyer recognises that Pollard is not yet as astute as Lambie with his tactical kicking and that part of the game is highly valuable in the NH.
GEgeneraltit
Pro3,164 posts
27 Nov 2014, 09:44#4
Excellent opportunity for Patrick to silence his critics...I expect a performance from him.
27 Nov 2014, 09:53#5
No better choice if you ask me.
27 Nov 2014, 10:30#6
Meyer has it spot on with these two. It has been a long time since we had any depth at 10!!! Boshoff is also no fool at 10
DEDezertFox
Pro2,288 posts
27 Nov 2014, 15:06#8
Lambie was poor last year, and has been poor this year. Lambie has a disastrous test outing against England, and is rewarded? He then has another poor showing against Italy and is selected again? What is it with this player? Lambie was so poor last year the commentators kept commenting on the fact that we "seem to have lost a bit of sting since Lambie came on", "He's struggling a bit out there".
BIbiltongbek
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BIbiltongbekClub Pro749 posts
27 Nov 2014, 15:12#9
Yes Lestat, Lambie is kak, in fact he is so kak he is ahead of the game because Meyer simply doesn't believe anyone can be that kak and still be playing rugby.
GEgeneraltit
Pro3,164 posts
27 Nov 2014, 15:51#10
If you want to go back many years in Springbok rugby...Lambie is a typical Keith Oxlee of our times... most of you probably don't remember Keith...except me, Mike and Mozart.
My company, I worked for, quite a long time ago invited Wynand Claasen as a guest speaker to our conference in Swaziland...and by a stroke of luck Wynand and his delightful wife was seated at the same table...it was an honour and priviledge...Wynand was asked many questions at the table...mostly about his tour as captain to NZ when apartheid caused violent reaction there...flour bombs etc and team sleeping under stadium benches...I asked him about the best flyhalves ever... he gave an account but mention Keith (incidentally so did John Gainsford years previously at Foresters Arms in Newlands a few years before)...they said more or less, Oxlee revolutionised backline play and changed the conventional role of no 10's.
Innovative and different but thinking foxy strategies...Lambie I believe has this gift but the pressure is a 100fold more today. He must be left alone...Morne was effective in a clone-like and robotic way ...PL has the nous of PB, DC and JW and DY...he is strictly a strategist...I know I'm sticking my head now but I have confidence here.
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 Nov 2014, 17:07#11
I saw Keith Oxlee play at Newlands....one of my favorite players. But I'm not sure Lambie is this tactical throw back to Oxlee. This is a big game for him on Sarurday. Lambie's history is one of bright starts followed by decline. The 2013 S15 is a good example.
So we saw a fine cameo performance against Oz, followed by a less certain one against the ABs rescued by the big kick.
And again he was at his best against Ireland.....much less effective against the Poms...and really quite poor against Italy, Pollard was a big step up. So what happens against Wales? This is a team we should/have to beat. But they are more dangerous than Italy. Does he become a Nervous Nellie again?
CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 Nov 2014, 17:55#12
Mozart description ofthe performance of players in games is so tainted by his prejudice against certin players he dislikes so the following is really one of thoise BS assessments:-
"And again he was at his best against Ireland.....much less effective against the Poms...and really quite poor against Italy,"
Now how much less effective was Lambie against England? His stats may tell us the story:-
Lambie0/0164/4/20000110/10/000/0
Scoring 18 points and geting not enough balls to play with - while inititating one of the tries scored, and making a very high number of tackles - does not make him out to be a less-effective flyhalf.
The quite poor against Italy is another really BS assessment:-
Lambie0/034/14/63400016/00/000/0
There is no indiucatuion of poor play by Lambie in the Italy test. Two moves started by him should have led to tries - but for Matfield moonlighting in the backline and failing to catch the balls passed to him. Lambie's ball carries showed much ground gaimed and his defense was spotless. So why was he poor? Because Mozart wants to rate him as poor like he does with so many other players.
GEgeneraltit
Pro3,164 posts
27 Nov 2014, 19:04#13
Ol'Mike you are my friend and so is Moz....although he often sees things differently, I still respect him...his problem is that he studies stats and mathematics...he's conditioned to this but your're also conditioned to the rat race of feelings and politics...we are all so very different and are pals, at least I hope, I've even tried to accommodate Rooinek , although not easy but with a bit of tact and interest and respect you can achieve wonders.
I failed dismally when I went out of character and had words with a few provacative guys here but as the grey hairs increase tact and wisdom takes over...we don't last forever...and if we get news that anyone of us coffin dodgers gets laid to rest...how will you feel if your last words were ugly..