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Lets drop de Kock

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
11 Feb 2016, 11:52
#1
11 Feb 2016, 11:52#1

3 centuries in his last 4 innings, including a test match is just not good enough


Bwhaaaaahaaaaa

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
11 Feb 2016, 12:00
#2
11 Feb 2016, 12:00#2
I'm still laughing at Dense . . .

"De Kock is useless, De Kock is dumb, De Kock's technique is poor, De Kock should be dropped, De Kock won't ever make it at the top level, De Kock blah blah blah . . . sorry, what was that? Three centuries you say? Really? Hmmmm . . . you know what, I think I'll . . . ummmm . . . withhold my judgement of De Kock! Wouldn't want to slag the lad off."

LMAO!

Bet Dense is wishing he hadn't jumped onto his beloved master's "we-hate-QdK" bandwagon. Hard to say which one of the two clowns has more egg dribbling down his stupid face.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Feb 2016, 12:21
#3
11 Feb 2016, 12:21#3
 Don't forget Ceradunce who want De Kock to bat lower in the order in ODI's and bring back Graeme Smith as captain.   The three idiots has been hard at work to destroy the   image of De Kock and it backfired on them.
 Instead of apologizing for their stream of disinformation and say OK we have seen what happened and realized now we were wrong - the stream of BS continues.   They prefer to be under the Niagra Egg Falls!!!!  LMAO
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
11 Feb 2016, 13:10
#4
11 Feb 2016, 13:10#4

Imagine leaving team selections to these two clowns.......Moffie would mirror Meyer when it comes to rugby.....Denise would struggle with the positions let alone who plays what.


As for cricket my guess is Moffie would want Dave Richardson as the keeper......a kind of Matfield selection

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Feb 2016, 15:23
#5
11 Feb 2016, 15:23#5
And I'm still laughing at RooiAAS who less than a month ago called de Kock a ' plodder'. I can't recall ever saying something quite that critical. What do you have against the lad....AAS?
Good to see you finally laid this egg after 6 attempts Dave.....what a contribution. 
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
11 Feb 2016, 18:52
#6
11 Feb 2016, 18:52#6

So Moffie what is your enlightened and professional opinion of de Kock then???


 

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
11 Feb 2016, 23:00
#7
11 Feb 2016, 23:00#7
Moffie's opinion of Quinton de Kock . . .
mozart
 
Status: Hall Of Fame 
Posts: 14844RE: Interesting comment on de Kock by Michael Holding.
March 25, 2015, 18:49:15

No I'm saying he missed a crucial run out opportunity. And flopped in every competitive situation with the bat.



    mozart
     
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    Posts: 14844Bavuma, Morris....de Kock egg for our resident experts
    January 05, 2016, 17:36:05

    Hahahaha....this couldn't get funnier. According to Tokkie,  Amla and Faf should be playing provincial cricket. But he demands de  Kock be selected.....and after a poor performance behind the stumps he holes out for 5 with a shot the commentators say should not have been played in test cricket. 


    And then our other resident expert Dave Humungous has been telling us how poor Bavuma is....he gets a nicely played 100. And supposedly we were desperate when we selected Morris. All he did was take the best slip catch we have seen in a while and score in the high sixties. He also bowled at a nice pace ....I can't see why he couldn't fill the all rounder slot.
    So much for the experts.



      mozart
       
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      Posts: 14844The other de Kock....
      February 06, 2016, 16:32:45

      ....emerged again today. A deer in the headlights when there is movement, Quinton was lucky to survive his first 6 balls. The two foot gap between bat and pad will never lead to consistent results against real swing and sharp spin.  



        mozart
         
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        Posts: 14844RE: Johnny shows Quinton how it's done.
        January 16, 2016, 03:51:52

        Look I know you have pictures of Quinton on your bedroom ceiling you old Queen, but keep it real...de Kock was a mess in that game. 



          mozart
           
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          Posts: 14844RE: The moment the WC semi was lost
          March 25, 2015, 18:43:39

          No I am not blaming one name. I'm not even blaming any name, least of all de Kock who was so obviously overawed by the situation and shouldn't have been there. Rossouw's other poor throw to de Villiers was a loser. Behardien was set to repair the de Kock damage, but Duminy lost his bearings. Steyn bowled a truly pathetic last over. Duminy's over that went for 12 just as we were getting a grip on things and the fact that de Villiers had to take over, didn't help.

           

          But the fact remains if de Kock performed his duties....simple catching of the ball and breaking of the wicket......we would likely be in the WC final. You two groupies are so pathetically dishonest, such classical examples of loser mentality, that you can't even admit that.

           


          mozart
           
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          Posts: 14844RE: Interesting comment on de Kock by Michael Holding.
          March 25, 2015, 16:25:52

          A bad bounce....what a total loser you are Dave. Happy to make excuses for your favorites. The ball bounced well in front of him...he missed it with a panicky swipe at the wickets....period.



            mozart
             
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            Posts: 14844RE: De Kock to leave a scar opines Prinsloo
            March 31, 2015, 04:47:41

            Mostly he is a member of the sane majority, who recognizes that de Kock screwed up. This was your big call, loudly and intolerantly made. This kid should replace either of the Protea openers. Well his incompetence lost us a shot at the CWC. And you are looking like the moron you are.


            Never has egg been so deserved....but even that was not enough....you had to call a Protea victory while NZ were still batting.
            Buffoon.



              mozart
               
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              March 25, 2015, 15:13:32

              He missed a run out at a crucial stage....Rossouw ran in to field the ball threw at the stumps with one bounce. De Kock tried to catch and knock down the stumps in one motion.....and missed the ball completely. He had enough time to simply catch the ball and take off the bails. Any school second team wicket keeper would be expected to pull that off. It was in the last 5 or so overs where the wicket would have been crucial.



                mozart
                 
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                Posts: 14844RE: de Kock
                March 24, 2015, 18:54:25

                He had a chance to redeem himself.....but his keeping at the death was a disaster. Even a school boy wicket keeper doesn't miss that run outchance. And then NZ were running byes on him at will.

                 

                 

                This kid should not have been in this game....period.



                  mozart
                   
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                  Posts: 14844RE: Woeful Proteas
                  February 23, 2015, 15:22:58

                  De Kock's problem is not that he isn't ready....he has played 38 ODIs. His problem is technique. The first time I saw him bat I was amazed that he had such a big reputation already. The gap between bat and pad is a barn door......and when he is nervous he doesn't move his feet at all.  That's probably why he spoons catches to mid off.

                   

                   

                  This isn't going to get fixed with experience, he will get worse as his reflexes lose the bloom and confidence of youth. He is a talented slogger, not an opening batsman.



                    mozart
                     
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                    Posts: 14844Johnny shows Quinton how it's done.
                    January 15, 2016, 05:02:19

                    The run out of Bavuma presented a strong parallel to De Kock's failed run out attempt in the WC semi....a failure which ushered us out of the competition. In both cases the keepers had to make their way to the wickets, Bairstow from far back...and both received skipping throws.


                    But here's the difference. Bairstow got down to the ball and made a secure catch as the first priority....he kept his cool and quickly made the stumping. De Kock stood upright and tried to make the stumping before securing the ball.
                    The rest is history. But so much was made by Perv  and Pork about how difficult it was, it seems only kind to demonstrate how the correct technique reduces the situation to routine.



                      mozart
                       
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                      Posts: 14844RE: So ....Quinton de Kock
                      August 03, 2015, 14:45:36

                      The kid's bat is too far from his pads because he throws it at the ball outside the off stump, while not moving his feet. Thus he is massively vulnerable to the ball that nips back. He needs to be seeing the ball like a spanspek to succeed. That happened for a while.....not any more it seems.

                       

                      He also missed the stumping to lose the WC. Most high school keepers would have gobbled that up....he panicked.


                      mozart
                       
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                      Posts: 14844RE: Interesting comment on de Kock by Michael Holding.
                      March 13, 2015, 15:10:43

                      Actually Dave, the working to leg doesn't bother me as much. It's the lack of foot movement towards the ball and the throwing of the bat at the last opportunity....leaving the biggest gap between bat and pad I can recall in a top order batsman.



                        mozart
                         
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                        Posts: 14844The moment the WC semi was lost
                        March 25, 2015, 17:11:34

                        Ball 40.3....Elliott is metres out of his ground as Rossouw gathers quickly and under arms the ball. De Kock is at the stumps and has glanced to his right to see where the runner was. The ball comes in about a foot to the right of the stumps off a bounce about five feet in front of de Kock.

                         

                        De Kock totally misses the ball which goes under his gloves. The commenatator trying to be nice says "the ball skidded on the wet surface" . But it was well up off the deck and with an under arm throw why not expect a lowish bounce?

                         

                        It was poor. High school level stuff.  If we cant expect our wicket keepers to gather in ball like that we can't win WCs.

                         

                        As the commentator said in the next sentence "if de Kock had caught that he was gone". And that was Elliott. With him gone our chances would have been very, very good. Why we can't just look these things in the eye and admit what really happened beats me....but we have the same two posters trying to spin the incident. So I'm setting the record straight.

                         


                        mozart
                         
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                        Posts: 14844RE: Interesting comment on de Kock by Michael Holding.
                        March 25, 2015, 19:44:27

                        There was zero match pressure in that innings and he was in free flow. The moment he faced Boult yesterday he was a deer in the headlights.  





                          RE: De Kock to leave a scar opines Prinsloo
                          March 31, 2015, 19:09:35

                           Quinton de Kock: 2/10

                          De Kock was generally sound behind the stumps, but his nerves gave way in the semi-final when he missed at least three run outs. He failed with the bat too; take away his 78 not out in the quarter-final, and his 

                          This from an Indian evaluation of all the teams


                          remaining seven innings amounted to a mere 67.

                          mozart
                           
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                          March 25, 2015, 16:00:20

                          Actually the reason he totally missed the ball is he tried to catch and sweep the wickets in one motion. He had more than enough time to catch the ball and break the wickets. One of the crucial mistakes that took us out of the WC. 



                          mozart
                           
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                          Posts: 14844RE: About QDK....
                          November 23, 2015, 16:17:14

                           Why bring a player into the team for India, when we know he will flop against the fast swing bowling of NZ and especially Australia.....but if we want him to play he has to bat down the order.



                            mozart
                             
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                            Posts: 14844RE: So ....Quinton de Kock
                            August 03, 2015, 15:35:38

                            Dave this is how you lose all credibility....he missed the stumping.....we exited the WC.  Case closed. As for making my name"mud" ....how silly. I expressed an opinion about a cricket player that happened to be prophetic. I said he would fail at the WC.....I must admit though, I never thought his blooper would lead directly to our exit.



                              mozart
                               
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                              Posts: 14844RE: Moz talk us through de Kock
                              October 21, 2015, 00:42:44

                               Just caught up on the game Fattie? What happened, never paid your Sky bill again? De Kock is fine until he meets express bowling. Talk us through how he lost us the WC semi. Miller got 30 on the deadest pitch known to man....whoopie doo, talk us through how he flopped in the WC semi. 


                              mozart
                               
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                              Posts: 14844RE: Interesting comment on de Kock by Michael Holding.
                              March 25, 2015, 14:57:57

                              The botched de Kock run out has hardly been mentioned. The fact is he should have been out twice in his first over....and then played a poor stroke to lose his wicket.



                                mozart
                                 
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                                Posts: 14844De Kock to leave a scar opines Prinsloo
                                March 31, 2015, 00:38:54

                                Other key fielding errors:

                                Quinton De Kock failed to collect a throw from Rilee Rossouw which would've removed Daniel Vettori. This was the easiest chance of those not taken and will leave a scar on the team for years to come, a team that prides themselves on excellent fielding.



                                ....says Wade Prinsloo.Honestly I dont think it's that bad. The scars were already there. But I do agree this was by far the easiest chance that was blown. Never send a boy to do a man's work.



                                  mozart
                                   
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                                  Posts: 14844RE: Hey DXr Mozzzz are you watching De Kock
                                  October 26, 2015, 05:42:31

                                  A one legged man was hitting sixes one handed on this flat pitch, off these long hops, on this short field...nope I place very little credence in this. Play some bowlers where the ball is whistling through at 148 kph and the gap between bat and pad will emerge as the fatal flaw it is.



                                    mozart
                                     
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                                    Posts: 14844RE: Interesting comment on de Kock by Michael Holding.
                                    March 13, 2015, 18:14:52

                                    I was never really convinced he is an opener. At his best he looks like a fast scoring number 6 batsman and wicket keeper. That feels like a good permanent role. 


                                    What worries me is the kind of stuff we are hearing from AB in the post above. It's about de Kock ...about ABs not wanting to keep....I'd rather hear him talk about how we are going to win this thing.
                                    NZ, OZ, Sri Lanka and India seem very focused and determined. We seem to be bemused and thinking about touchy feely issues.

                                    The honest answer from AB would have been, de Kock is a great talent, but he has had a disappointing run. And the team needs a solid start, so a change may be necessary. This is the WC and we will do everything we can to win.


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                                      RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
                                      11 Feb 2016, 23:08
                                      #8
                                      11 Feb 2016, 23:08#8
                                      Post after post of scathing, ignorant and unwarranted criticism by a soft, nerdy little nancy-boy who never played a game of cricket in his sad and pathetic life.
                                      RO
                                      RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
                                      11 Feb 2016, 23:09
                                      #9
                                      11 Feb 2016, 23:09#9
                                      Oh and I forgot to mention . . . echoed on most occasions by his obsequious and fawning Alpha Gimp Dense who wouldn' t know which end of a cricket bat to hold.
                                      CL
                                      clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
                                      11 Feb 2016, 23:49
                                      #10
                                      11 Feb 2016, 23:49#10
                                       De Kock is on Mozart sh!tlist because he replaced Smith and the attacks never ceased - even during the past week he went for him and now he has too much egg accumulated that it will take an earthmoving machine to clear it away.   
                                      MO
                                      MozartCaptain49,914 posts
                                      12 Feb 2016, 02:20
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                                      12 Feb 2016, 02:20#11
                                      Yes I have been critical....that's not new news. I still believe his botching of a simple stumping cost us a spot in the CWC final. But then you voted de Kock into the CWC "Crap' team as a bat and a wicket keeper.
                                      And at least I suggested he be moved to number six, not number 8 or 9 like RooiAAS. 

                                      Finally having been critical, I never pretended I was  solidly behind de Kock.....slating those who weren't. Like the Lush who thought he would get away with switching sides and attacking those who shared his former views.
                                      Nice try AAS, but there is a word for your tactics...hypocrisy.
                                      DE
                                      DennyCaptain12,893 posts
                                      12 Feb 2016, 02:40
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                                      12 Feb 2016, 02:40#12
                                       I'm still laughing at Rooinek . . .

                                      "De Kock is useless, De Kock is dumb, De Kock's technique is poor, De Kock should be dropped, De Kock won't ever make it at the top level, De Kock blah blah blah . . . sorry, what was that? Three centuries you say? Really? Hmmmm . . . you know what, I think I'll . . . ummmm . . . withhold my judgement of De Kock! Wouldn't want to slag the lad off."

                                      LMAO!
                                      Sorted.....hypocrite!
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