Matias Moroni vs Boks

According to the resident expert on all matters, Moroni is just a placeholder at centre, and greatly inferior to our stock of centres. For Argentina, he has faced South Africa in seven tests. He has scored two tries and notched three assists. Total metres of 223m at 5.07mpr. He has also made 83% of his tackles. Of those seven tests, two have been from the bench. I'd say quite an impressive player. 

By contrast Am, a very good player in his own right, has in four tests accounted for zero tries against los Pumas, zero assists. Has run for 22m at 1.47mpr. He has made 75.9% of his tackles. 

So, I put it to you, who is the more productive centre? Does it even matter? For the first time in my lifetime, Bok fans are settling for less. As Pollard says, they don't care if they have underutilised players. Some, like Damian, have a very high level of involvement, with very low returns across the board. 

Am is a quality player, but I'm not so sure he is better. It's undeniable that Moroni has outplayed the Boks head-to-head, and that includes three encounters with Am. When is the last time that our Bok centres contributed four assists and a try against any test nation, much less against a top 5 nation? The floor is yours, brah. You sound like a toddler having a tantrum.

I'll give you a hint, seeing as you will never figure it out for yourself. The last time would be 2015 when Jean scored 3 tries and 1 assist against Samoa. He was at 13 that day. The Boks have never come close to that production from centre since. Serfontein came closest in 2017 under Coetzee. A centre pairing playing lights out together? I'd have to dig further then that. Likely the second All Black test of 2006.

Ja, you never see a lot of things.

Pollard’s comment is that the Boks don’t care about entertaining….but this is sport. The joy of the game lies in many facets, not just winning. For the individual cracking the outside gap, putting your partner away…beating an opponent with a change of pace. All these things unknown to the Boks this year.

And Pollard himself is perfectly capable of beating a tackle or offloading, as he did in the last Lions test….apparently satisfied using 60% of his skills .

Kriel? You have got to be kidding me. Kriel should never have been played at 13 in the first place, that he had continued to be played there speaks volumes to our poor selectors and stock at 13. Kriel is a sloppy unskilled dud with no vision.

Am has it all, but is so poorly utilised it will never be realised. As shown in my opening post, the production isn't there. The production at 12 is even worse.

The Bok midfield has very often been outclassed by the Puma midfield in most of their meetings the past few years. Last Saturday, the gulf between the two was embarrassing. 

Another Unteromlett class act. Well there's a damn surprise. An act so classy he got demoted by Josè. Great attacker? Sure, if he had open space in front of him. Once in that open space his painfully linear vision castrates all opportunity. Makes plenty of mistakes on both attack and defence and has a tendency to do irrationally pop up to give away a needless penalty. Another Unteromlett "class act" with no production to his name. 

It is weird how the two village idiots on site carry on about  SA players and based their dislike of Erasmus and some other players on BS.    In their last two RC matches againt Argentina the latter team scored exactly one try because of a Mostert miss tackle on  Sanchez  - while the Springboks scored 8 tries despite the poor performance of the Springboks  of the Springbok backline players. , who scored  7 of the tries. 

Incidentally of the tries scored by the Argentinians the problem in the 2018 RC was what center pairing was used by the Springboks and he answer is Am and Esterhuizen.   Am looked much better against all teams when  De Allende was his center partner .      .   

Tell me when and where the Book midfield has been better Lügnerin. You speak of performance but do your damndest to hide information, distort it or fabricate a lie from nothing. 

The Boks leave their variations in play for the big matches...like the RWC final...how boring was that? or the 2018 & 2019 matches in Wellington? Or Loftus 2018 vs Allblacks? 2017 Allblacks @Newlands?

What variation? 

BSter Kindergarten Imbecile 

What do you know about rugby?   You missd out on  all things about the game of rugby and essentially the fact that rugby is a 15 man team game.   Meyer amnd Coetzee turned the game into a  ten man game and on a few occasions into an 11 man game.   and idiots like you did not recognize that.

Tell me again - how come both those two farce coaches were fired by their respective clubs  and why.   Were  it not because they were grossly incompetent in especially squad and team selection and came near to destroying the two clubs because of lack of game plans?     

Kindergarten Imbecile 

Answer my question about Meyer and Coetzee  being fired for gross incompetence you idiotic piece of shit.    

I don't need to talk about their club careers when they have Bok records you dolt! 

Meyer has the better record, the better attacking output and got more out of his players. I know it stings. He had over 20 tests unbeaten at home in succession held a consistent #2 position for 3.3 years and built depth which he never had. Man, it must hurt to be the plastics. Does Dr Auge need to prescribe more benzodiazepines?

We? You are an Englishman, there is no "we" where you are concerned. Furthermore, you are so sloppy and puffed up that your opinion or endorsement is utterly worthless. It's you who needs to be validated, not I. The same old fool who boasted about his land when it turned out he was stig of the dump. One of those who very obviously has envy towards the Moz types. Fancy that, "Big Guy"; a little fish in a very little pond. 

As per the Boks. You endorse the tripe the rugby World has called an embarrassment to the game? The trip Pollard felt compelled to defend by saying he doesn't care if it is ugly? Josè can thank his lucky stars he doesn't have to travel.

In any case, the thread's opening post stands in stone. The Puma midfield is much better than that of the Boks. We field a tier 4 wing at 12 and a shotgun with a safety cap on at 13. Great stuff. Bottom of the pile for production, but "by far the best in the world". When pressed for any kind of detail the plastics come up empty handed, but Crow loudly all the same as if out mouthing people is winning. The mark of what once was a bratty kid that became a man baby. 

Shitspeaker Kindergarten Imbecile

 Who in the rugby world  supports the following BS:-

"As per the Boks. You endorse the tripe the rugby World has called an embarrassment to the game?"

Names please and examples of where it was written and spoken about.   It is wormshit like you who made those statements  and  never proving anything other than lying about what happens in games.  

The Bok records of Meyer and Coetzee came close to destroying Springbok rugby as were their club records.   So what was the difference?    Give me the names of other Springbok coaches who se teams were so badly selected and coached that they lost against Japan and Italy.      .     

Matt Wiliams, Ian Foster, Clive Woodward, Peter De Villiers, Graham Henry to name a few.

But here's a little thought: If the Boks are not being criticised, why have Pollard and Kolisi repeatedly defended the way they play exclaiming that they don't care how it looks? Engage the mind Lügnerin.