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AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
10 Apr 2016, 12:10
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10 Apr 2016, 12:10#1
More signs of potent Crusaders pack – amongst groan-inducing turnovers

PHIL GIFFORD

Last updated 19:30, April 9 2016



OPINION: What should we make of the Crusaders now?


Wins don't get much uglier than the way they scraped to a one-point victory in Perth against the Force.


Does this mean the Crusaders, after two wins on the road in South Africa, are paper tigers who, when they strike the Brumbies in a fortnight or the Highlanders next month, will be out of their depth?


Luke Romano of the Crusaders takes aim at the Western Force's Angus Cottrell in the 20-19 victory in Perth.



Hardly. We know now that the victories over the Sharks and the Lions were extraordinary performances.


There looked to be outrageous cheating by the Sharks. Their coach, Gary Gold, swore at and abused the television match official not once but twice. How he's got away with a piddling fine, and not a lengthy ban, is a reminder to me that in Super Rugby South Africa holds the power.


To paraphrase Donald Trump, Gold could apparently have shot somebody in the street and he still would have only been fined.


Yet despite the intimidation of the official in Durban, and the ineptitude of referee Jaco Peyper at Ellis Park in the game with the Lions, the Crusaders were so much better than the Sharks and the Lions that they still won.


(It's a disgraceful reflection of how much New Zealand has lost in the rejig of Super Rugby that the Chiefs won't play the Blues again in round-robin play. And let's not depress ourselves by going into too much detail over the fact that up to three crap South African sides will make the eight-team playoffs  just by being the best in their enfeebled South African/Japan/Argentina sections).


So what the hell happened in Perth?

For a start let's give some credit to the Force. They're very limited, barely able to break the line in the backs, but, as the Highlanders found last weekend, they have tough forwards and a terrific goalkicker in Peter Grant.


Strike one against the Crusaders was that while Richie Mo'unga has become a cool, efficient first-five, his goal kicking remains erratic. He was great at Ellis Park, bad in Perth.


Strike two was that long after it became clear the flypaper hands that worked so well in South Africa had vanished, there were still attempts to work miracle balls as the Force clawed their way back into the game.


There was no strike three and out because one of the few bright spots was the Crusaders didn't dog it. They still believed they could win when commonsense said it wasn't their night.


They won 20-19 in the most unimaginative way, by smashing into the Force from a lineout, until Jordan Taufua, who is a now as vital as the host of All Blacks he joins in the pack, got the try.


Good on them.  If they're to be the serious contenders they can be this year, there'll be other times when the mundane, not flash, is needed.


And amongst the groan-inducing turnovers and dropped passes in Perth, there were signs again of just how potent the pack is.


It barely seemed possible that Luke Romano could bristle with any more aggression then he did in Africa, but in Perth he did, while Matt Todd's tackling remains as clinically accurate and effective as a surgeon's scalpel.


When you can sub Wyatt Crockett with Joe Moody, there's depth as well. There's more to winning than having good forwards, but it's a terrific start.


As someone who can honestly say he predicted on radio a close game when the Chiefs played the Blues, I was still a little startled at how well the Blues played in Hamilton.

Damian McKenzie remains a brilliant prospect, but he was completely outplayed by Melani Nanai, whose solo try was a thing of real beauty.


And the best loose forward in the game was Akira Ioane, whose ability to step out of tackles was astonishing. If he's this powerful at 20, how strong will he be in a couple of years?


The Chiefs, on the other hand, showed how dangerous they are by refusing to lose confidence when it would have been reasonable to do so.


 - Sunday Star Times

AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
10 Apr 2016, 12:11
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10 Apr 2016, 12:11#2
 I didn't change anything,..... it was written and published like this,...... "three crap South African sides will make the eight-team playoffs"
BR
BrycyPro4,671 posts
10 Apr 2016, 12:29
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10 Apr 2016, 12:29#4

 ...has'nt McNichol been awesome for the Crusaders and probably wouldn't look out of place in a black jersey...

...I like the way he is everywhere around the paddock and a great finisher...not to mention great points scorer for fantasy teams ...

WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
10 Apr 2016, 12:46
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10 Apr 2016, 12:46#5
Should be at least 4 Kiwi teams in the playoffs ,at least 2 home games ,all just based on points if they continue at this rate .They can have their stupid conferences `just dont gift sides a home game because of them.  
AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
10 Apr 2016, 12:52
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10 Apr 2016, 12:52#6
 yeah, brycy,..... it was time for him to translate his usual ITM cup-form to Super Rugby,...... the last 4-5 years he's been one of the bests attacking players in the domestic comp,...... in 2012 he was the leading try scorer with 10 tries and he also led some other stats,.... the saders let other very good players leave (Patrick Osborne) to retain him and till the moment he didn't return the confidence placed on him

but it's better late than never,....... now when Dagg and Fruean (after his health problems, in the form of his life the last ITM and has improved big way his defense) will be avalaible (very soon) the saders could field a hell of a backline:

9.Ellis/Drummond      10. Mo'unga

12. Crotty       13.. Fruean

11. Nadolo    14. McNicholl      15. Dagg

with Volavola (who everybody is criticizing but had IMO a good game except some mistakes), Wainui and Macilai as bench players (please, keep Havili and Fonotia as far as posible from the team).


but still too soon IMO to and AB call,...... he's not a sound defender,..... and he suffers against bigger opponents,...... but let see,... he may surprise this season in this aspect of his game also
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Apr 2016, 15:36
#7
10 Apr 2016, 15:36#7
 Well, there are 8 teams in the African combined conference,  of which only 3 can go through to the playoffs.  From the 10 teams in the two Australasion conferences,  5 will go through. Clearly this will benefit the Australasion sides. Do the math.
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
10 Apr 2016, 19:01
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10 Apr 2016, 19:01#8
 Is it my imagination or have I been reading a lot of whinging posts from Basque lately?
Never figure him for such a crybaby!!



AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
10 Apr 2016, 21:15
#9
10 Apr 2016, 21:15#9
 the answer it's quite easy,....... it's your imagination,.....

otherwise, tell me where do I whinge
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
11 Apr 2016, 11:34
#10
11 Apr 2016, 11:34#10
 The maths Draad is that it doesnt matter what happens at least 2 teams from the SA conferences will get a home playoff  .And having an Aussie team getting a free ride doesnt benefit us ,I personally dont give a stuff what happens to the Aussie teams its not like they are linked to our teams is it ? We are 2 seperate countries after all.It is what it is now I guess .
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
11 Apr 2016, 12:51
#11
11 Apr 2016, 12:51#11
 I'm not a fan of this silly format?
Every team should play each other at least once in the comp.
We're looking for the best of the best ... not for random qualifications through the luck of the draw.
 
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
11 Apr 2016, 14:13
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11 Apr 2016, 14:13#12
 I want to see our boys smashing into yours and the Aussies and Argies ,Japanese to I guess .I t annoys me that we wont see the best saffa teams playing ours in the rounds.
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
11 Apr 2016, 17:43
#13
11 Apr 2016, 17:43#13
Abasquefan,
Hinton agrees Saders are on the rise

but Chiefs are still rated higher
AB
ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
12 Apr 2016, 12:35
#14
12 Apr 2016, 12:35#14
 thanx JW,...... and here's another one from the same website:

Crusaders in buoyant mood


may be too excesive?
let's go game by game,..... firstly we have the jaguares this weekend,..... though they haven't shown anything special till the moment they still have a pile of test players,...... and they are going to bring 10 of them from Argentina for this match,...... they left them at home to rest and get form,...... Creevy, Facundo Isa, Juan Martin Hernandez, Cordero, Tuculet btwin them,...... it's not going to be easy
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
12 Apr 2016, 14:09
#15
12 Apr 2016, 14:09#15
 The various components of the NZ franchises bode well for the ABS .Saders are looking more like contenders every day.
BR
BrycyPro4,671 posts
12 Apr 2016, 21:43
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12 Apr 2016, 21:43#16
 ...looks like Welsh club the Scarlets have been talking to Johnny McNichol as well....after this years Super Rugby form I can imagine he would be in hot demand.. but it would be a damn shame to see him go overseas.. 
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
12 Apr 2016, 22:26
#17
12 Apr 2016, 22:26#17
 Rugby players in NZ are in for a subs tantial pay raise & this should help keep more players at home. link to article
BR
BrycyPro4,671 posts
13 Apr 2016, 23:06
#18
13 Apr 2016, 23:06#18
 ...it's official he's gone to the Scarlets and also qualifies for the Welsh team... so looks like he will achieve national honours after all ...just not for NZ 
WA
WardadPro6,663 posts
14 Apr 2016, 00:13
#19
14 Apr 2016, 00:13#19
 Oh well if he doesnt want to fight it out for an ABs spot then he's of no worth to us .We want guys who arent in it for a buck and an easy route to a test cap.
BR
BrycyPro4,671 posts
14 Apr 2016, 04:13
#20
14 Apr 2016, 04:13#20
 ..after the upheaval Anscombe caused by being included in the Welsh team, McNichol's ( not a very Welsh name either ) inclusion in a Wales team could be quite controversial as well and ruffle a few feathers- but no doubt he will let his football do the talking...
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
14 Apr 2016, 06:01
#21
14 Apr 2016, 06:01#21
 He is giving up on his goal of becoming an AB and will not be competing for a position in the best rugby team in the world. He has decided to go for a lessor goal with more money. He may have developed into something special in NZ rugby but we will never know & neither will he. Good luck to the young man, he's made his decision based on what he thinks is best for him & his family. We will see what he develops into.
BR
BrycyPro4,671 posts
14 Apr 2016, 08:35
#22
14 Apr 2016, 08:35#22
 ...Crusties losing him and Nadolo next year  so that is going to curb their potency on attack somewhat..
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