woeful, they need to go with immediate effect. Kolisi, not a fan of his had a good game, I daresay his best ever. Pollard was ordinary. Just one question...is that the best we're going to get out of the current centre pairing?
Now sit back and relax as we await the bombardment of stats to prove me wrong hahahaha
I guess that’s meant for me. Thanks. Kwagga never had a good game today. I doubt his supporters would contest that, but he improved as the game went on. Mostert was his usual self. Unfortunately I can’t oblige you on the stats as ESPN don’t appear to have the rights for these tests.
Hahaha.
https://www.planetrugby.com/news/springboks-player-ratings-bomb-squad-blows-ireland-off-the-park-after-jesse-kriels-masterclass
Following the Springboks’ 27-20 victory over Ireland at Loftus Versfeld, here is how we rated Rassie Erasmus’ charges.
15 Willie le Roux: Combined well with Handre Pollard on attack and was safe at the back for the Springboks. The attack looked far more fluid than it did against Wales and much of that success is down to Le Roux’s presence. 7
14 Cheslin Kolbe: He chased lost causes against France to make a crucial charge down and was rewarded again today with his try off the back of James Lowe’s error. He just never stopped and produced in a big Test yet again, which is a growing trend in his international career. 8
13 Jesse Kriel: Yet another brilliant display from the sensational centre in all facets of the game. He spread the ball well and made excellent decisions on attack while being sharp as always on defence. Another masterclass. 9
12 Damian de Allende: Powerful in the tight exchanges and showed his brute strength again, shrugging off Peter O’Mahony twice in a matter of seconds. Defensively sharp and was often used a good dummy runner. 7
11 Kurt-Lee Arendse: Got the Springboks off to the perfect start with a brilliant step past Jamie Osborne and was a real threat whenever he touched the ball. He defended reasonably well and his yellow card did put the Boks under pressure but he was simply the last to concede and paid the price. 7
10 Handré Pollard: Given a new lease with Tony Brown’s attack, and while his accuracy off the tee wasn’t great by his lofty standards, he made up for it with his game management and threat on the gainline. He kicked well out of hand, too. 6
9 Faf de Klerk: The Springboks scrum-half was given a hard time by the Irish defence, who looked to spoil and disrupt his services throughout his shift. He did manage to deal with it rather well on the whole and milked a penalty or two. 5
8 Kwagga Smith: The brilliant back-rower had his issues under the high ball early on, but after shaking those off, he shone in all facets of the game, which is rather standard for him. He racked up over 30 metres with his carries and pestered the breakdown. 7
7 Pieter-Steph du Toit: Another beneficiary of Brown’s new attacking system. Du Toit produced another stunning all-action display. He made life hell for the Irish lineout, but even more so for the attack with his trademark heavy hits. He carried the ball superbly in the extremities and made great decisions in those situations, too. Powerful performance. 8
6 Siya Kolisi (c): He was certainly not ‘transparent’ today as the Springboks captain put in a mighty shift with and without the ball. He brutally shoved Robbie Henshaw to the ground and shone in the wider channels. As usual, he was excellent at the breakdown, too. 7
5 Franco Mostert: Every Mostert Test match is pretty much the same as he charges around the pitch, thundering into tackles topping the count before he left the pitch. He ran the lineout well, too. 7
4 Eben Etzebeth: Pestered Craig Casey’s box kicks, which is a standard for the towering second-rower. He was solid in the lineouts and impressed with his new distributing role in Brown’s attack. Not quite a box-office performance but another strong one. 6
3 Frans Malherbe: The world-class tighthead was put under pressure in the scrums by Andrew Porter but he did enough to stay on the right side of the whistle for the most part. Like his fellow front-rowers, he was accurate on defence and had some nice strong carries. 5
2 Bongi Mbonambi: Abrasive as ever in contact and rather accurate in the lineouts. He added some nice touches to the new attacking system, too. 6
1 Ox Nche: Like Malherbe, he was not as dominant in the scrums as he would have liked but he held his own and some against Tadhg Furlong. Landed some crunching hits on defence and had some nice carries. 5
Replacements: Erasmus rolled the dice by throwing all six of his ‘Bomb Squad’ forwards on in one swoop and was justly rewarded. There was little separating these two sides today, and ultimately, the bench made the difference, literally blowing Ireland off the park with the last scrum. 9
https://www.rugbypass.com/news/springboks-player-ratings-vs-ireland-july-series-first-test/
5 – Franco Mostert – 8
Left
the field on 50 minutes with the most tackles for his side (twelve at
the time). Stood up in a half where the Boks’ defence was pushed by the
visitors.
From Rugby 365:
8 Kwagga Smith
After a horror start – with poor hands after restarts and also conceding a penalty – he worked his way back into the game and redeemed himself. He produced a team-high 12 carries, beat four defenders, and completed nine tackles There was a vital try-saving defensive effort on his goalline late in the game.
7/10
5 Franco Mostert
As always, he did most of his hard work in the close exchanges – making the second-most (12) tackles by the Boks. Won some important line-outs.
7/10
So I guess we could do a bit of stats. 12 tackles in 50 minutes equals 19 tackles for the game. Impressive for a lock.
You are happy with Mostert - but his comtronution of twelve weak tack procesxsx tackles with zero contribution in tight 5 play means he was useless as per normal.
I don't believe that you're not on drugs ................. the consumption might be accidental, but please take care .
Mike just check your posts. I find total nonsense coming up if you make a single error or don't space.
Kwagga must not start. Roos is the man.
I am hoping Sascha starts next match along with Edwil in place of Arendse.
Malherbe'performance was sub per.
Marx looked better which is good news.
Eben was quiet by his standards.
Kolisi had a good game as did Van Staden when he came on.
Thought the refs were competent and tried to come to the right decision.
It was a ragged performance at times with too many errors. First game for a whole so not unexpected.
Looks like a low-born slut has hacked ou Maaik's password again . . .
OK
Lets get it straight - Mostert is a show pony and his conmtribution in mauls and in ball protection and recovery is where both him and Kwagga failed. They are just push back abd there is where at least two tuurnovers in posssession took place and at least twqo penalties were conceeded by the Springboks.
I think Erasmus and his coaching team use an advanced computerf analysis program indiccating the real perform,ancxews of every player on the field and make adjustments to the teams. This process wsas and remains a proper performanc e assessment program developed abouta decade ago. It is interesting that the cojke specialist wsrote in an article that both Meyer and Coetzee had the program available - but wsas never used by them when it came to player evaluation and sedlection of players.
The result was the obvious failure of the Springboks in he period late 2014 up to the end of the 2017 season. It is also interesting that the wo coaches fcailed totally when they coached their French and Japanese clubs and in the proccess were fired because hey were driving two top clubs towards downgfrading to second tier clubs.
On thiss site therfe are only basic stats availabe and used to sutify negative rugbny by top pl;ayers and fr enahcnement of deficient players despite all-round dewficiencies during gfames.
I expect a few changes to the team for the test next week and think the following is likely:-
* Le Roux will be put on the Bench and replacedd by Fassi;
* Pollard will be replaced by Feinberg-Ngomezulu;
* De Klerk will be replaced by Williams
* Smith will be replaced by Roos; and
there may be changes made on the bench iro Tight 5 players and som sraztefs yesterdxaymay be moved to the bench and vice vesa.
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If you want a better example of a show pony, have a gander at DDA Hend-Ducks
Dave, I don't giving a flying fart what the stats say about Kwagga, he bombed, which against a better team would have cost the Boks but besides that his runs were ineffective. Have a look at the AB game which was played at a ferocious pace and guess what.......not once did they make any schoolboy errors.
Mostert is Albert van der Berg in reverse gear.
Sometimes it's just fun putting a magnifying glass on this bullshit.
They never respond…ignore the fact that they have been exposed. And then repeat the same discredited garbage.
As for the AB game….one of the AB posters was on here admitting the Bok game was a more intense contest. No clue about rugby…. About anything really.
Mozart is a wierdo when it comesd to asage of superfocial stats and he alwaays praised Mostert for his perfomances and attack Du Toit - so let us look at one issue Mpozart never mentioned:-
Du Toit played for the Springboks in 77 tests and scored 8 tries
Mstert played for the Springboks in 72 tests and scored 3 tries
Why is there such a bif difference in tryscoring? The answer is phisical strfen]gth to force through traffic to score tries - Du Toit does have that re quired strength.
Minute 26.10 Arendse bounces off bigger man Lowe…this kid may be the most complete footballer in the game today….the try he scored with a feint of the outside gap and then step inside was as aesthetic a piece of rugby you will ever see.
Minute 26.20 Mostert gets a difficult high ball controls and powers forward, but Ireland has numbers…turnover. Kriel disrupts and Ireland kick out directly.
Minute 29.35 Kwagga takes the kickoff…breaks the first tackle
Minute 34.05 Mostert low on Doris who steps out of his tackle but is effectively stopped.
Minute 34.42 Mostert stops Doris and drives him back…..learn Dave, learn.
Minute 35.00 the try by Osborne …an understandable mistake by Kriel , he fully commits to driving Lowe out ….but Lowe was going out anyway, he needed to protect the pass….a case where less would have been more.
Minute 37.07 Brilliant take by Mostert at the back of the lineout setting up the maul.
Minute 37.30 Dud Allende gets the resulting excellent ball….tries to tractor and he’s held up. Irish ball…30 metres lost. Mostert powers through the resulting maul but Ireland hang on.
Minute 38.20 Mostert by himself drives through the Irish ruck….Bok penalty. Pollard misses barely.
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Minute 30 Kwagga takes the kickoff and beats a tackle in a strong run.
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Halftime and plenty of material for your education Dave.
Defensive play of the game….Mostert makes the tackle on our line on the open side. Leaps up….checks the field instantaneously sprints to the blindside and cuts dow Osborne so cleanly he can’t make the pass to Lowe for a probable try.
It demonstrates….full engagement, rugby smarts and the physical capability to execute.
Well the Genius clearly sides with us ‘ lot’ and provable match contributions rather than the ‘physicality’ which produces a whole lot less.
If anybody believes Mzart version of what happened durfing amtches then it i.s high time to conmsult a shrink - Mzart inaccuracxy about what happened during matches is based on prejudice and h as nothing to do with what acually h appened during matches. He mentioned when Mostert caught a bal from kick-in as a grfeat achievement - but if h e does nto catch that ball it would be a ngative not a gfreat achevement. He mentioned that Mosdtert pushed off a Irish player threatening a takeover - but he does not mention who the Irish player was - as far as I remember that incident the player was the Irsish scrummie.
He mentioned how Du Toit carried the ball in one incident - but never where he carrfied the ball fo morew than 30 meters and off-loaded the ball very well for what was in excess of 20 meters and he made a very good off-load it to Kolbe and was there to protect the ball if Kolbe was tackled. Not ewrth mentioning at all.
Mosterft always was a poor tackler in open field play. I know ocfp at elast cxases where tries were scored by players ran stright through Mostert's poor defense and tries were scored. . .
WC tackles….but in reading this remember he played less than some on the list. For example Dud Toit played 400 minutes to Mostert’s 323. So in 323 minutes Mostert made 73 tackles. In 400 minutes he would have made 90 tackles to Dud’s 66. So who was the tackling machine at the WC?
I doubt there is a significant tackler who made more tackles per minute played. ‘Poor defense’….another completely unsupported comment from the ANC member.
It appears that the only hope for Mosters player qualities to be seen and respected by some would be for him to sign up and play for the Stormers.
Agree with the posting from Mozart on Mostert's plays in the last test.
An outstanding player and Springbok lock.
You would think that having been directed to Mostert’s contributions, some of which were outstanding the tawdry refrain would change….but I guess they can’t move from ‘woeful’.