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Mostert is Keo's man of the series...

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
08 Aug 2021, 13:04
#1
08 Aug 2021, 13:04#1
...and a contender for MVP according to John Smit.
Discuss
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Aug 2021, 13:05
#2
08 Aug 2021, 13:05#2
Joke of the year Doing what exactly Mostert was a non entity throughout - easily one of our underachievers I’d say every Bok forward was better than Mostert Yesterday he ran one good line and missed far too many tackles and that was his best game
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
08 Aug 2021, 13:18
#3
08 Aug 2021, 13:18#3

Lood, Steph, Kitshoff, Malherbe, Kolisi (third test aside), Wiese, van Staden, Nche, Marx, Mbonambi were some of those worse than Mostert. 

Missed too many tackles you say. Who has missed the most tackles of any Bok under José and Krutch? Stephanie. It's not even close. Mostert gives you that level of involvement, but with far less risk. 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Aug 2021, 13:31
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08 Aug 2021, 13:31#4
I’m talking the last test you prick Missing 4 tackles is piss poor I’ll say it again Mostert was a non entity all series He underachieved Anyone picking him over say Etzebeth for MOM or MOS is fucking ignorant and that just taking Etzebeth as an example
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
08 Aug 2021, 13:33
#5
08 Aug 2021, 13:33#5

and missed far too many tackles

Well let's compare Mostert at 7 in test 3 with Du Toit at 7 in test 1.

Tackles made/missed:
Mostert 13/4
Du Toit 13/4

Penalties conceded:
Mostert 1
Du Toit 3

Runs, metres, defenders beaten:
Mostert 7 12 2
Du Toit 5 8 3

Player of the year who gets fawned over game after game vs, apparently, a non-entity. Spot the difference.

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
08 Aug 2021, 13:38
#6
08 Aug 2021, 13:38#6

When you look at match footage and see what those numbers look like, it becomes even more apparent who the better player is. Mostert has lateral defence. How many primary tackles did Mostert miss? Numbers in context. 

Eben was very patchy in this game. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Aug 2021, 13:49
#7
08 Aug 2021, 13:49#7

KEO must have been on the white stuff again.    Mostert failed badly in line-outs in the second test and when De Jager came on the scenario changed and balls were not throw to him afterwards.    He still flopped badly in open field tackles and is a dead loss as a loosie

Anyone comparing Mostert the feeble to Du Toit is talking tripe of the worst order.     Du Toit was sorely missed yesterday because of his constant harassing of the opposition backline.    H e would have neutralized the  Lions flyhalf yesterday like he neutralized  Ford and Farrell in the WC final.   There were no loosie pressure on the Lions flyhalf yesterday and Mostert was part of that deficiency,    .    .     

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
08 Aug 2021, 13:50
#8
08 Aug 2021, 13:50#8

"failed badly"
"buggered up"
"messed up functionality of x"
"aimless x, y, z"

A load of waffle with no references, no evidence. 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Aug 2021, 13:52
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08 Aug 2021, 13:52#9
PSDT has not stood out this series been solid at best. I never said he had stood out Mostert’s stats in the first two tests were piss poor Yesterday was his best game thanks to a good line he took and that’s about all he did all series other than take his line out ball and make some low tackles
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
08 Aug 2021, 13:56
#10
08 Aug 2021, 13:56#10
The only time Steph standas out is when he rushes recklessly and looks behind to watch his man run into open space. Occassionally running into the wrong man for absolutely no reason, such as the All Black WC loss. 
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Aug 2021, 14:06
#11
08 Aug 2021, 14:06#11
Bullshit PSDT is simply brilliant Makes Mostert look like the pretender he is
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
08 Aug 2021, 14:13
#12
08 Aug 2021, 14:13#12

Steph, the 17th best flank in SH rugby, has never been brilliant. Only two good tests. Anomalies. 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Aug 2021, 14:32
#13
08 Aug 2021, 14:32#13
17th best according to who?
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
08 Aug 2021, 14:41
#14
08 Aug 2021, 14:41#14

That was his production throughout 2019. 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Aug 2021, 15:14
#15
08 Aug 2021, 15:14#15
Absolute bullshit
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
08 Aug 2021, 15:26
#16
08 Aug 2021, 15:26#16

Org taking his daily pasting.

Man of the series was Eben. The guy was magnificent. 


 


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
08 Aug 2021, 17:10
#17
08 Aug 2021, 17:10#17

Eben by a landslide, not even close...Mostert has heart, but Du Toit is much better.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Aug 2021, 17:11
#18
08 Aug 2021, 17:11#18
It’s all Mostert has is heart and energy with zero physical productivity Complete pretender
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
08 Aug 2021, 17:19
#19
08 Aug 2021, 17:19#19

How can Steph be the best in the world when he has the most missed tackles of South Africans, and barely scrapes in at 30 for carriers in South Africa. His production wasn't top 10 in any category in the World Cup. Myth. Nothing more. Eben had some misses, got penalised and had some trouble in asserting himself. H e didn't dominate. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
08 Aug 2021, 17:26
#20
08 Aug 2021, 17:26#20

...Eben dominated more than any other forward...he had no more "misses" than Mostert... Mostert is a fine player, but not nearly close to being best Bok of the series...only 2 days ago you called Keo a coke-head, now you aggree with his BS?. ..maybe because it suits your agenda?

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Aug 2021, 17:52
#21
08 Aug 2021, 17:52#21
Exactly Draad old omelette is as fickle as fuck Imagine believing PSDT the world player of year was ranked 17th in his little world You could not make this shit up Mostert was on par with Kwagga and Wiese as our least effective forwards this series
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Aug 2021, 17:58
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08 Aug 2021, 17:58#22

Du Toit is not better….he gets more camera time. He is never used in the lineouts, because he is iffy. Why have a bean pole who can’t be called on to make the catches at the back? Have we ever seen him take a long ball…not in this series for sure.

Mostert plays to the ball….Dud Toit is far too often gumming up the backline as he was when Duhan dumped him…..physical?

Dud Toit’s assigned role in the WC was to rush onto Ford….an astute call because of his dithering style. And flank could have done that, but Dud was effective no question.

As for this physically bs. How many metres did Lomp make after the first tackle yesterday. Nada! That’s right. These beanpoles don’t…..not one of them, not  even the super powerful Etzebeth.


Very few players can assert physicality in traffic. In recent memory Vunipola and Alberts come to mind….both very strong, blocky chaps.

Dud Toit is overrated. The Boks played better the moment he left the park last Saturday…..his role confuses things. Mostert is underrated.

One of the few things Keo has got right.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Aug 2021, 18:19
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08 Aug 2021, 18:19#23
Moz sometimes I have to question your rugby knowledge - seriously If you are going to operate in traffic then a metre gain per carry is par and with it comes forward momentum and phase set ups The likes of PSDT, Lood, Eben etc all average around 1m per carry in traffic The difference between them and Mostert in traffic is that Mostert is unable to gain any metres in traffic Invariably he gets smashed backwards How can you not see this? Mostert should never have played a single test as he is simply is not physical enough for lock or blindside PSDT is far far more physical than Mostert is. The guy is thin and feeble It’s not even close Mostert is no better than PSDT in the line outs. When PSDT played 5 he was a fine line out jumper Playing at 7 yesterday was Mostert used in the line outs - I think not
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Aug 2021, 18:25
#24
08 Aug 2021, 18:25#24

Dud was a Dud Dave, live with it.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
08 Aug 2021, 19:05
#25
08 Aug 2021, 19:05#25

A Dud won WRPOTY...

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Aug 2021, 19:09
#26
08 Aug 2021, 19:09#26
PSDT is a phenomenal player we missed him and Faf big time yesterday
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Aug 2021, 19:54
#27
08 Aug 2021, 19:54#27

Yes like we missed him in the second half last week……hahahaha….get real.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Aug 2021, 20:12
#28
08 Aug 2021, 20:12#28
We would have been better placed with Faf ahead of Reinach, PSDT ahead of Mostert and Vermeulen ahead of Wiese and Marx ahead of Mbonambi
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AJHPro3,183 posts
08 Aug 2021, 20:20
#29
08 Aug 2021, 20:20#29

Yes we should have had Elton on the field in all three test and voted him in as player of the series.

Mostert and du Toit play their guts out each and every game for the Boks but hardly get any credit for their efforts from some bloggers.

They have earned their honors both on and off the field of play.

Thank you.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
08 Aug 2021, 20:42
#30
08 Aug 2021, 20:42#30

There are no passengers in the side...it's a good side...it's a good squad...pity this team didn't play last year...

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
08 Aug 2021, 21:12
#31
08 Aug 2021, 21:12#31

Kolisi, outside of the third test, was a passenger. Damian, Wiese, Lood, Steph... the production has been so anemic that only a lunatic would say everything was fine. The loose trio combined for 21 metres. Lood, 1m in 2 runs. Look at the missed tackles. This was not a good performance, not one test was a good performance by the Boks. A true fan would not accept this, a true fan would be concerned. Not every side we face will be inept or substandard like we are. Our entire pack amassed 44m in the whole of the second test. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
09 Aug 2021, 10:30
#32
09 Aug 2021, 10:30#32

I trust the coach and the waterboy...the Bokke were seriously undercooked,  but pulled it off. Our 4th match after a long layoff...against the best of the NH minus France...a very good result when viewed in perspective...now we have 2 matches vs the Argies to further work on things before we take on NZ...pity we gave them all the home advantage,  but it is much better than we could have hoped for last yeae this time.

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XaviPro1,924 posts
09 Aug 2021, 18:52
#33
09 Aug 2021, 18:52#33

Lucky Lukhanyo was my man of the series. Played in all 4* test matches and hardly set a foot wrong. 

He has been impeccable on defense not only individually (lol Daly) but also in the team effort and although he hasn't had much time on the ball going forward his contributions changed the outcome of the series.

Trusted with the captaincy for the A game and down to identifying the space in a micro second to put Willie away down the sideline for Kolbes try. 

Unsung hero of the Bok midfield.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
09 Aug 2021, 19:03
#34
09 Aug 2021, 19:03#34

Indeed, Am has been a revelation since he first put on the Bok13 jersey...fantastic player.

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
09 Aug 2021, 19:09
#35
09 Aug 2021, 19:09#35

Am is intelligent and authoritative. Imagine what he'd do in an All Black jersey? 

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becsPro4,378 posts
09 Aug 2021, 19:14
#36
09 Aug 2021, 19:14#36

Apparently Itoge is the Lions man of the series…

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XaviPro1,924 posts
09 Aug 2021, 19:20
#37
09 Aug 2021, 19:20#37

Itoje was good in the 1st test, a grub in the 2nd and awol in the last one. Laws or Henshaw imho.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
09 Aug 2021, 19:20
#38
09 Aug 2021, 19:20#38

Itoje stood out...as did  a few others.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Aug 2021, 20:51
#39
09 Aug 2021, 20:51#39

Henshaw would be my pick.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Aug 2021, 21:00
#40
09 Aug 2021, 21:00#40

Scores with Dud Toit on the field: Lions 31/Boks 28

Scores with Dud Toit off the field: Lions 16/Boks 35

Definitely Dud Toit for man of the series!

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