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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
27 Jul 2021, 20:24
#1
27 Jul 2021, 20:24#1
Is a poor man’s Victor Matfield in every sense. Big Vic was a supreme athlete with supreme skills and who in his prime muscled up to a respectable 115kg. Bok packs are traditionally about physically imposing tight forwards with Big Vic being the only worthy exception. He was physical enough but his athleticism , rugby brain and skill set was second to none. It was easy to forgive the grunt we conceded when he played. We can’t say the same for lazy Mostert who has clearly never spent much time in the gym. I can’t stand these type of locks and I just don’t get why Rassie ever included him. Clearly by dropping him to the bench during the WC he started seeing past all the heart and energy and became aware of the limited physical productivity. Unfortunately with Lood and RG out, Rassie has had to revert back to the only lock left who knows the systems We lost that first test as we never gained the physical dominance we should have. Hardly surprising when you have Mostert and Kwagga on board Why are we conceding grunt by selecting this guy, he is not even a sad excuse for a Big Vic. I don’t get it. Which other test side selects a physically inept lock? We see a few of the Mostert type locks littered in our provincial sides and they are all super shit Andrews at the Sharks Orie the Stormers Nortje the Bulls What’s the fucking point? We are the Boks after all I can’t believe fucking Mostert is starting again this coming Saturday The bloke is a physical liability and his selection pisses me off so much Fuck sake Rassie
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
27 Jul 2021, 22:15
#2
27 Jul 2021, 22:15#2

Mostert is strong enough, and has the second highest volume of tackles, minus the porous misses of the Steph. Mostert is twice as strong as the flaccid Lood. 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
27 Jul 2021, 22:19
#3
27 Jul 2021, 22:19#3
Shut up you ignorant prick
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
27 Jul 2021, 22:24
#4
27 Jul 2021, 22:24#4

Make me biatch.


MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
28 Jul 2021, 15:06
#5
28 Jul 2021, 15:06#5

A poor man’s Victor Matfield…..Mostert a Victor Matfield for the common man? Yes, spot on….not as regal, but on the job every second of the game.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
28 Jul 2021, 16:21
#6
28 Jul 2021, 16:21#6

He has a much lower production rate than other locks and aside from that a defense liability as well.    They need more physical locks than Mostert can produce - somebody that can force carries and not capable to do that.       

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
28 Jul 2021, 19:22
#7
28 Jul 2021, 19:22#7

Production? Who are you to talk of production when Steph has so little? Don't make me laugh dear boy. 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
28 Jul 2021, 19:44
#8
28 Jul 2021, 19:44#8
He is definitely on the game every second producing zero physical productivity A complete and utter physical liability He is shit
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
28 Jul 2021, 20:16
#9
28 Jul 2021, 20:16#9

Lood is a liability, can't even carry simple pick and drive, or a simple basic carry into a back. Gets splattered. Not Lomp, but Limp. Mostert makes his stops and makes his carries. 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
28 Jul 2021, 22:47
#10
28 Jul 2021, 22:47#10
Bullshit Lood is physical he carries through contact something Mostert NEVER does so stop fucking lying. Making things up carries no weight There is no greater embarrassment for Mostert than when he was unable to clear out an 18 year old, yes and 18 year old Georgian fullback, yes fullback That in a nutshell sums up how physical good old Mostert is The guy is a complete physical liability and a big part of the reason the Boks are not dominating as they should be. You are as strong as your weakest link
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
29 Jul 2021, 00:29
#11
29 Jul 2021, 00:29#11

"he carries through contact"


MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Jul 2021, 04:39
#12
29 Jul 2021, 04:39#12

Boy the great Erasmus has missed all these obvious points.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
29 Jul 2021, 10:20
#13
29 Jul 2021, 10:20#13
No Erasmus has missed nothing - he worked it out during the WC that Mostert was not the answer in the starting side. With RG and Lood unfit his hand has been forced having to revert back to Mostert which is costing us With Mostert in the engine the chances of physical dominance is diminished - fact
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
29 Jul 2021, 10:28
#14
29 Jul 2021, 10:28#14

Mostert is not a first choice look. FACT

He lacks physicality. Then you have Kwagga who at 8 is a sick joke.

Had Vermuelen been playing together with Snyman at lock there is no ways the Lions would have won.

Rassie's RWC  pack was superb. FACT. it was dominant.

The Org is becoming a laughing stock on this board and mozzzz has simply lost his marbles 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
29 Jul 2021, 10:39
#15
29 Jul 2021, 10:39#15
Spot on Beenkop and therefore Rassie should have replaced Vermeulen and Lood/RG with like for like That was certainly not Mostert and Kwagga Big mistake
PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
29 Jul 2021, 11:20
#16
29 Jul 2021, 11:20#16

Would I be mistaken in saying that Mostert has been on the winning end of more games than any other SA lock still playing?

If that's the case then he's either very lucky or some people here are quite wrong about the man.

Honestly though (All other SA locks < Sny man)

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
29 Jul 2021, 12:52
#17
29 Jul 2021, 12:52#17
Plum I don’t need a team record to define an individual player unless you are stupid Mostert is a physical liability end of
PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
29 Jul 2021, 14:42
#18
29 Jul 2021, 14:42#18

He's a lucky guy, old Mostert. 

It's not me that is stupid. It's Akker, Swys and Rassie


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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
29 Jul 2021, 16:14
#19
29 Jul 2021, 16:14#19

No credible lifeform can criticise the physicality of Mostert and praise the total no show of Lood. That's the end of the discussion. Lood is a flat tire on the Bok machine. 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
29 Jul 2021, 16:25
#20
29 Jul 2021, 16:25#20
Lood is twice the player physically inept Mostert is Mostert looks like a little village club lock which is where he should be playing Maybe at that level he could clear out a 18 year old fullback Fucking embarrassing
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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
29 Jul 2021, 16:28
#21
29 Jul 2021, 16:28#21

Lood can't reliably carry into contact against a small back. End of discussion. Everytime you need him to be secure, he fails. He is very weak for his sizs. Very unathletic. 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Jul 2021, 16:49
#22
29 Jul 2021, 16:49#22
Why is Lomp on the bench two matches in a row. Surely if he was bench fit last week, he would be match fit this week. Hell he played for a quarter of the match.
No this is a nonsense argument. The Great Erasmus has picked Mostert because he provides better defence and better lineouts.  If he felt Lomp was the better option against the Lions he’d be starting this week.
Either Erasmus is wrong or Mostert is the superior player..   it can’t be simpler than that.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
29 Jul 2021, 17:39
#23
29 Jul 2021, 17:39#23
Oh bullshit you are not match fit after 20 min off the bench having not played any rugby in months. Geez that’s bloody obvious Why would Rassie retain Mostert ahead of Lood if he was fit, given Lood relegated Mostert to the bench during the WC. Lood has played very little rugby since the WC so it’s not a form issue. Also, in the first Lions test, Mostert was a non entity, hardly meriting his retention in the starting line up this week. Lood is not match fit and cannot be expected to play 60 minutes which is very unfortunate for the Boks Equally Rassie and co have failed to equip the squad with worthy replacements for Lood and RG and thereby forcing their hand in having to select the physical liability that is Mostert
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
29 Jul 2021, 17:42
#24
29 Jul 2021, 17:42#24
Omelette - 18 year old fullback CASE CLOSED
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Jul 2021, 17:45
#25
29 Jul 2021, 17:45#25

So if Mostert gets injured in minute 2, we can expect Lomp to play for what….30 minutes? Hilariously stupid. Mostert is in there because Rassie (we all know Nienaber doesn’t have a vote) wants him above Lomp.

I mean you yourself chose Lomp for this test and you were convinced Rassie was going to pick him.

Case closed

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
29 Jul 2021, 17:54
#26
29 Jul 2021, 17:54#26
Bullshit why would Rassie change his mind on Lood vs Mostert given Mostett was awol last Saturday I selected him hoping he was fit enough for 60min - clearly he is not for given how poor Mostert was and how much the Boks needed to beef up the pack replacing the weeds in Kwagga and Mostert. Unfortunately only Kwagga had a worthy replacement in Wiese, clearly Lood is not ready for if he was, he’d definitely be starting on Saturday Had Mostert had an impressive first test against the Lions you might have had some merit to your bullshit that Rassie suddenly prefers Mostert over Lood Utter bullshit - Lood is clearly not ready and if Mostert or Eben got injured early then that’s a chance you take with Lood being forced to play a full match Case closed my arse Lood has done nothing to merit being downgraded behind Mostert and useless Mostert has literally done nothing to merit being elevated ahead of Lood. Lood is not match fit, it’s that obvious
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Jul 2021, 18:01
#27
29 Jul 2021, 18:01#27

He preferred Mostert all the way through the ABs game at the WC. Foolishly decided  he needed Lomp, but kept Mostert in the mix.

Fortuitously Vunipola splattered Lomp early in the WC final when England were well on top. Getting Mostert in there empowered the goal line stand.

Now with Lomp playing a quarter of the game last week he still doesn’t select the wet noodle. Not surprising given he got driven back once and lost the ball backwards once for a net negative 11 metres.


Frankly he probably shouldn’t even be on the bench and clearly is not the preferred lock.

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
29 Jul 2021, 18:01
#28
29 Jul 2021, 18:01#28

Lood clearly is not ready. Finally some sense. Lood has never been ready for this level. Mostert was good and saved the Boks when the pressure was on. Mostert is one of those plays who keeps the Boks from buckling completely. 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
29 Jul 2021, 18:07
#29
29 Jul 2021, 18:07#29

Mostert weighs in at 112 kg. Pretty light. He is a hard grafter and certainly a lot better than that 103kg or was it 108 kg backline wannabe loafer pencil thin wee matfiled. Biggest con artist ever.

Its amatter of striking the correct balance for a Bok pack. A Bok pack must dominate. That is our competitive advantage.

Now when you play Kwagga Smith at 95 kg, Siya Kolisi at 105kg and Mostert at 112 kg you chances of having a dominant pack  are slim or next to nothing. 

Steph Du Toit I see weighs in at 115 kg and is a powerhouse mobile number 7 - best in word player. He debulked to play as a loosie. Was 120Kg.

By the way Malherbe at 130kg according to the Stormers website is overweight. He should be 124Kg.

I see Wiese is 110kg a good size for a number 8 - lets hope he doesnt lose his rag and do something silly. He needs to play an important part in the aerial battle. Kolbe is being targeted.

Vermuelen is superb under the high ball and know exactly where to be.

Could the Org stop being ridiculous about everything.

Thanks You are setting Moz a very bad example and egging him on to lower hights!

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Jul 2021, 18:09
#30
29 Jul 2021, 18:09#30

Lomp’s total WC playoff ball carrying, including Wales, Japan and England….11 runs for 10 metres. No wonder Erasmus decided losing Lomp was losing nothing and opted for Mostert’s superior open field tackling, lineout play and rugby IQ.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Jul 2021, 18:12
#31
29 Jul 2021, 18:12#31

I agree HasBeen…Dud Toit is definitely the  the ‘best in word’ player. Nobody has been more hyped. I mean old Dave actually said elsewhere that Kolisi was by far our best loosie last Saturday. Hilarious!

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
29 Jul 2021, 18:13
#32
29 Jul 2021, 18:13#32
Rassie got it spot on during the WC dumping the sad excuse of a test lock in Mostert for the real lock in Lood Lood has played no rugby which for obvious reasons means he is not match fit to start against one of the best sides on the planet We lost the first test thanks to players like Mostert and Kwagga selling us short physically in the pack - FACT
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
29 Jul 2021, 18:18
#33
29 Jul 2021, 18:18#33
Kolisi ran more metres than any other forward on the field, beat one defender and made 11 tackles He was better than Kwagga and PSDT on the day What part of that Moz are you struggling with?
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Jul 2021, 19:47
#34
29 Jul 2021, 19:47#34

No we lost the first test because Dud Toit gave up 3 penalties…the last one which put us 4 points down with little time left.

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
29 Jul 2021, 19:52
#35
29 Jul 2021, 19:52#35

Kwagga was vastly more impactful than Kolisi. One Kolisi run, that's where his stats end. What of possession in congested physical areas? Kolisi can't make meaningful contributions. Worst Bok 6 I have literally ever seen. 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Jul 2021, 19:56
#36
29 Jul 2021, 19:56#36

Kolisi literally dis appears for long passages in the game and occasionally appears for one off contributions. It would be interesting to have a camera on this guy for the whole game. He’s the UFO of rugby players.

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
29 Jul 2021, 20:15
#37
29 Jul 2021, 20:15#37

Kwagga actually made more metres than Kolisi. I neglected to mention that. 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
29 Jul 2021, 20:38
#38
29 Jul 2021, 20:38#38
Not per carry he did not you stupid fool Bullshit Kolisi had a good game - he was our best loosie followed by PSDT who had a good game but for his uncharacteristic missed tackles. Kwagga had moments but got dominated physically which is why he has been dropped Useless Mostert should have joined him
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Jul 2021, 20:55
#39
29 Jul 2021, 20:55#39

Just watched the first 15 minutes of the A match. Mostert cleaned Itoje onto his back and a few minutes later pulled off a classical I turnover. 

Dud Toit never does either….he is literally a zero on the deck.

Absolutely amazing in the modern game a loosie who literally can’t fetch,

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Jul 2021, 20:55
#40
29 Jul 2021, 20:55#40

I can’t recall ever seeing Dud pull off a turnover.

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