CLclevermike
Coach57,555 posts
CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Feb 2016, 19:50#1
I always try to keep track of the US Presidential Election Results. There is one element in the two states who had already had caucuses and there was -
* in Iowa a clear rejection of the candidates with Washington insider links of either political connections with the central Government by supporting Sanders to the extent they did on the DP side and Cruz and Trump on the Republican side; and
* in New Hampshire the trend was even stronger with runaway victories for Sanders and Trump.
Is that situation widespread in the US or linked only to certain states and areas?
I understand that Christie has withdrawn from the race and that the Rep ublican Establishment seems to have put their hope on Rubio - because his insider links are less obvious than the other two possible candidates (Kachic and Bush) - Cruz is nearly as big an outsider as Trump is - so he is also beyond the pale.
DBDbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
DBDbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Feb 2016, 19:59#2
Mike, the Billary email-gate is much more serious than it looks on face value. Voters don't mind Trump being a bit of a deek, because they perceive him to be open about it, which is refreshing. All the other Republicans have some sort of negative about them. Early days still, but it seems the vote will go to the Devil they think they know...or is Trump a sheep in wolves clothes? Only one certainty is that nothing is what it seems in US politics.
CLclevermike
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CLclevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Feb 2016, 20:24#3
It is early days - but the picture should become clearer by Big Tuesday. I suspect the same as you.
MOMozart
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MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Feb 2016, 20:51#4
People are very sceptical of all politicians at this point, courtesy of a lot of talk and almost no problem solving. So the outsiders have an edge, but as we saw with Rubio at the last debate, one slip can tank anybody.
Trump is a media personality, he is seen as modern, outspoken and his own man. Some people like that.....and unlike outsiders in the past he doesn't have to introduce himself to the public. At this stage only Hillary is as well known.
He also has credibility on the economy, and this looks like a bumpy year in the markets. Any economic setback, any terrorist attack will tend to boost his standing. He can't be dismissed.
Rubio is really a VP option at this point, a quick learner, but this may be too soon as the debate showed.
Cruz is seen by many as slippery and he is a very narrow candidate. Trump reaches across the aisle to young people....Cruz is a religious warrior. He may get the nomination but the country as a whole won't buy his act.
DBDbDraad
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DBDbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Feb 2016, 21:05#5
Cruz is the eal and Hillary the snake. The Dems will rather go for the "Good old Grandpa" than a proven deceitful career politician. I would be very surprised if she lasts past Easter.
As a side, it's quite significant that she got just as much delegates as Berny in NH, regardless of his landslide.