My side to play Oz
Four games over four weeks, tough ask.
Jasper Wiese's performance before being substituted was far superior, which suggests to me the twins are not international standard.
The twins have had much more chances than Wiese, and have never delivered a performance anything close to what Wiese done in the first Argie test, or even in the 2nd.
Wiese's man-of-the-match performance was better than having 2 creatine twins on the pitch.
Neither of them has ever come close to a man of the match performance for the Boks, despite playing many more games.
In the 2nd Argie test, Dan looked for the first brick wall to run into and gained no metres or added momentum. He just died with the ball each time.
He was nowhere on the high ball, and the Argies started to use the up and under to get into the game more later in the 2nd half.
Well the argument is moot. With Vermeulen back that ball carrier base is covered and the estimable Mostert will be the flank.
When both Marx and Vermeulen are on the pitch having good games at the ruck, the Boks become invincible.
Turnovers, slowing opposition ball, and cleaning up the ruck on Bok possession to get quick clean ball from the pack to run onto a pace.
Harrassmus won’t agree with you Dave…..I’ll give him this much, he won’t select a Deysel twin ahead of the guy who led the goal line stand in the WC final.
Jasper Wiese for Dan. Will take a good look at Wilco as I am uncertain about him. Otherwise the team is about right.
Great Pity about Snyman!
Good pick, but expect to see more dark brothers in the front row from Nienaaibaar.
So probably going to see 3 black players starting in the front row, you know that word starting with a Q. Not that they are, but I absolutely agree with your front row.
So only 3 dark brothers and 1 with almost the right shade.
Nie will select Ox, Bongi, Trevor as his starting front row.
Throw in Marvelous Orie too and you've met your governmental targets
Good side, pretty much close to the best but why have the Matchstick on the bench, he's just a waste of resource, why not Van Staden or Weise? I'm also not sure whether it's a good idea to play Vermeulen the full 80 minutes and considering he's been absent for a bit perhaps it's better to start him off the bench?
Oh, BTW, I believe that other twakkie Albert van der Berg is making a comeback.....no I'm not joking, apparently he's signed for the Lions
I think there will only be two players on the bench because they need a cover for Vermeulen playing his first game for many months.
15. Willie
14. Kolbe
13. Am
12. de Allende
11. Mapimpi
10. Pollard
9. Faf
1. Kitshoff
2. Mbonambi
3. Malhrbe
4 Etzebeth
5. Lood
6. Kolisi
7. JL du Preez
8. Vermeulen
16. Marx 17. Ox Nche 18. Koch 19. Van Rensburg 20 Mostert, 21 Wiese 22 Reinach 23. Willemse
I would not have Mostert in the team at all - he is a real liability - but Snyman is not available. I have to laugh about Mozart's distortion about Mostert's contribution in the WC final - he was neutral to negative in that game and there is a reason why he was not in the starting line-up in the WC after constant non-existing open-field tackle ability.
I believe that the reason for playing Marx from the bench is that he strengthen the scrumming, especially since the replacem ent props are not up to the standard set by the starttng props.
I would rather start with Ox Nche at 1 as Kitshoff has not hit top form yet, and Nche has probably been better.
I would prefer Marx at 2, because Bongi's throws in's have been terrible this year, and makes it harder for the Boks rolling maul to get started from the lineouts.
Also Boks need ot use Vermuelen and Marx in tandem to dominate the rucks.
Imagine if we can have Marx, Vermeulen and Van Staden on the park together. How much ball we can win and get our outside back to counter attack.
Van Staden is work in progress I think there could be a bit more in the making, he could for ins tance be a solid ball carrier.
We'll be playing on very fast surfaces, we need mobility. If you can keep Lood in the middle of the field, with good support either side of him he is mostly okay. No more than okay. And that's against opponents that right right at him. The Wallabies more than the All Blacks will attack spaces and pull defenders out of position. Dynamism but without compromising skill.
- Kitshoff
- Marx
- Louw
- Etzebeth (c)
- van Rensburg
- Smith
- D du Preez
- Wiese
- Reinach
- Pollard
- Mapimpi
- Steyn
- Am
- Kolbe
- Willie
Kindergarten Imbecile . It is boring reading all your gibberish on site. You obviously do not know what youa re talking about when referring to center play. He polaye in the WC series at center against one team and was at best average against poor teams. In that game De Allende was at 13 and was the best SA player on the field by some distance. In all the key WC tests Steyn was on the bench and never used as center when he came to play for a few minutes in games. That only happen when the tests were already won.
Subsequently Steyn played at center in one game and was also not a star at work. For the rest dream on - you are totally deluded anyway.
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Really? Frans made 49m in 10 carries and Dud 14m. it happened to be the game where 60%+ of our attacking output for the tournament was accumulated. Now, was it that our attack was good because Frans was at 12, or just a coincidence? You are too easy. If anything is a bore, it's me having to establish basic facts for the guppies here when there is the potential for more nourishing debate. I post the information to increase the knowledge base of the forum so we can have a richer discussion, and the likes of you drag it back down to pre-school level. Congratulations. Like typical plastiks, you don't even have a sense of humour.
When both Marx and Vermeulen are on the pitch having good games at the ruck, the Boks become invincible.
I think there is only two occasions that the South Africans are invincible.
In your mind and if they were ever called upon to play against you.
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