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Opinion Poll - Racial Quotas in Sport

Started by clevermike23 REPLIES756 VIEWS· 02 Jun 2016, 13:24
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 Jun 2016, 13:24
#1
02 Jun 2016, 13:24#1

An opinion poll is being run on the issue of racial quotas in Sport and the votes thus far is as follows:-

Necessary for Transformation goals    =        927 votes  (5%)

Counter-productive –

   Teams should be selected on Merit  =   14076 votes (77%)

A political hot potato                              =     3376 votes (18%)

The above indicates an adverse feeling on racial quotas in sport  and  poor team results because of what people regard as quota selections could have serious side-effects on match attendance and support of teams.   That can also have a serious adverse affect on sponsorships.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
02 Jun 2016, 19:58
#2
02 Jun 2016, 19:58#2
 No hot potato Mike. The ANC are trying to entice the 25 odd % that supports quotas to vote for them. They know they won't lose votes from the section of their voters not supporting quotas.  Simple racist calculation. 
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,269 posts
02 Jun 2016, 20:04
#3
02 Jun 2016, 20:04#3
I think this had merit a 10-20 years ago- but it cant go on for ever. 
PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
03 Jun 2016, 10:23
#4
03 Jun 2016, 10:23#4
SA should be banned from all international sports. It's as simple as that. The government has not invested in grass roots participation and the result is that the main draw for black players is a) going to schools rugby has been played since forever and wanting to wear that first team Blazer and b) the success of the Springboks. International sporting bodies won't ban SA becauee they know the ANC will cut their own nose to spite their face and the result will be a loss in revenue. The other option is for the National and provincial teams to go on strike. This will also never happen since a) discriminating against the minority is legal in SA thus they don't have a case and b) there will be those who leverage the situation to get into teams that they couldn't before. Many black people in SA feel that whites are mostly rich people. A complete fallacy. There is a small superwealthy minority which comprises around 1-2%, a small middle class and a massive lower class. Racist policies will only continue in SA and will become more and more severe. Get whitey is about as good a political campaign as you'll find. It's sad, because most people here, black, white and coloured are good people, but irresponsible leadership is drowning us in hatred. Just my take.
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
03 Jun 2016, 10:38
#5
03 Jun 2016, 10:38#5
 Boycott all events where racist selections are enforced. 
Give them empty stadiums to enjoy.
Across the board. Cricket etc ... 
Do not purchase anything that has the Bok emblem on. 
Imagine a test match between the All Black and the Goats in Johannesburg, where the only supporters are a handful of Kiwis who've flown in for the event ... and of course Redneck depending on whether he got his free tickets or not. 
That should send a clear message.
This won't happen though. We cannot stand together as a people. We'll still see ignorant idiots spending their hard earned cash in support of this racist regime.
 
  
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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
03 Jun 2016, 11:40
#6
03 Jun 2016, 11:40#6
CleanCut
 
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Posts: 3641RE: Opinion Poll - Racial Quotas in Sport
June 03, 2016, 10:38:33

We cannot stand together as a people. We'll still see ignorant idiots spending their hard earned cash in support of this racist regime.

 This is and always will be the downfall of why whites don't get things sorted or changed.
Give them their due, black people have this down to a fine art, and respectfully so, if it does not include any violence though
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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
03 Jun 2016, 13:42
#7
03 Jun 2016, 13:42#7
What that poll doesn't show is the race of any of the voters because, let's be honest, most of the voters for the 'Counter Productive' option are most likely going to be white. 
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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
04 Jun 2016, 14:30
#9
04 Jun 2016, 14:30#9
 It wont cease. White excellent men cant get that they have culturally contaminated many others.

Of course, they tell they do not support sports quotas as they are excellent men. Excellent men speak one way and act another.

One example: on one hand, the excellent men say they cherish humanity, that the perpetuation of humanity is on their minds. On the other hand, they organize the depletion of resources on a world scale. Which is going to mean at least the massacre of hundreds of millions people.

Better to get accustomed to the idea that the vast majority of black people in South Africa are now culturally acquired to the excellent men cause.

They should not be expected to display any other behaviour than excellent men's behaviour. Which includes telling one thing and act another way.

The SA rugby team has been a political team since before the new era. The players were selected on racial merit.
And suddenly, this should be ended. And racial merit should no longer be included.
The trend was started, the trend was adopted and the trend is being upkept.
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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
04 Jun 2016, 14:36
#10
04 Jun 2016, 14:36#10
 "The government has not invested in grass roots participation and the result"

Invested what?

Rugby did not make SA richer. Rugby made it poorer. If it had made it richer, excess in wealth would allow to train more and more players.

It had made it poorer, so the resources to train players are lacking.

It does not stop to black players. The training of white players itself is endangered as the resources keep going.

SA has long time lived on squandering the internal resources of SA only. They are coming to an end.

Downwards, downwards, downwards.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Jun 2016, 15:51
#11
04 Jun 2016, 15:51#11
 What is the above about?  I cannot follow the logic here - for me it sounds like a mixture   of garbage.  
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Jun 2016, 19:28
#12
04 Jun 2016, 19:28#12
 It sounds like T is saying that because of the past sins, it is OK for the other side to get their revenge by imposing new sins in the here and now.
PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
05 Jun 2016, 08:52
#13
05 Jun 2016, 08:52#13
 Unfortunately in SA a certain section of the population has an average IQ of 70. This is considered borderline retarded in western countries. Does traditionalist's appear to have anything beyond an IQ of 70? Nope. Ok, enpugh said. Let's move on. PS traditionalist, please fck off with your racist bull-shyte you black fascist A-hole.
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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
05 Jun 2016, 13:37
#14
05 Jun 2016, 13:37#14
 It sounds like T is saying that because of the past sins, it is OK for the other side to get their revenge by imposing new sins in the here and now.

Sins? That is a strange definition of a sin. Sins do not appear suddenly when another person acts the same.
Because it is what is going on: all these excellent black people act the way they were showed by excellent white people. They will go for depletion of resources just like any excellent man will go.

Dont blame them for that, you are unable to blame yourself for the same course of action.

Here is a tale of a sin.

Before the rise of the excellent men, the earth was peopled with sinners. Those sinners were sinners on the face of humanity.
They were sinners because they did not consume as large, as hard, as fast as a human being does.
In fact, that is how they were marked by excellent men as sub human or non human beings. A human being consumes larger, bigger, faster. Wherever the sinners lived, there was still plenty around. They could live millenia in a place, there was still plenty around.

The sinners had to be punished. The excellent men had to teach them the way of man. So the excellent men took the environment for themselves and showed their ways of consuming harder, faster and larger. This  was a success. In a matter of decades, resources went down faster, larger and harder every year.

The world was set on the path of depletion of resources.
The sinners, beholding such a miracle, understood their errings. They saw the ways of the excellent men for what they are: superior ways, the ways of man.

They learned how to grow into excellent men themselves, purifying themselves from their sin.

For sure, in the future, there will be less and less resources to be consumed. But the earth will be people by excellent men. No more sinners.
GE
generaltitPro3,164 posts
05 Jun 2016, 14:23
#15
05 Jun 2016, 14:23#15
We are all sinners...every one, period.

But before we stir up the nest here please, old chap for the love of sanity... post this in Beeno's specially allocated section ...Thumpet's Blast.


sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,269 posts
05 Jun 2016, 14:53
#16
05 Jun 2016, 14:53#16
Who exactly are the excellent men? Are their excellent men on this board. The traditionalist sounds like a communi st
GE
generaltitPro3,164 posts
05 Jun 2016, 15:23
#17
05 Jun 2016, 15:23#17
LOl Shark...we are all "excellent men" especially Shark supporters
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
06 Jun 2016, 08:17
#18
06 Jun 2016, 08:17#18
 It's a falsehood to say that the dark skinned folk of this country don't enjoy drawing favour across the spectrum ... in business and sport alike.
Of course they do.
If they weren't favoured by law they would find themselves sucking on the hind tit by merit ... in business and sport alike.
Blaming the excellent men for their misery is an excuse to divert the world's attention from their ignorance. It's never about their ignorance or stupidity but rather a sad tale of woe being the oppressed race and all.
Their best attempt at partaking is either with outstretched cupped hands or the unwanted forced entry.
Don't be fooled. They love being favoured over other races. Without it they'd have to accept that competing at the same high level is beyond them  ... in business and sport alike.
That's just the way it is.






  



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WardadPro6,663 posts
06 Jun 2016, 10:51
#19
06 Jun 2016, 10:51#19
 Wheres that ten foot pole ? I wanna put an extn esion on it ....
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
06 Jun 2016, 11:40
#20
06 Jun 2016, 11:40#20
 All sane people are welcome on Beeno's Trumpet but unfortunately that mea ns its fora select few!
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
06 Jun 2016, 18:53
#21
06 Jun 2016, 18:53#21
 "Wheres that ten foot pole ? I wanna put an extnesion on it ...."

And shove it up who's arse?
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
06 Jun 2016, 21:46
#22
06 Jun 2016, 21:46#22
 The Trum*pet doesn't work without Beens (pun intended).
Image provided to aid comprehension


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WardadPro6,663 posts
06 Jun 2016, 23:39
#23
06 Jun 2016, 23:39#23
 Mr Draad it matters not whose butt so long as its 20 feet further away and I have to touch neither it nor this poll! ,using a pole  !Butt JW what sort of mileage do you get per can of beans Bro ? [ Beansbro ?sure I've rode a motorbike through there once !]
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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
11 Jun 2016, 13:57
#24
11 Jun 2016, 13:57#24
&
It's a falsehood to say that the dark skinned folk of this country don't enjoy drawing favour across the spectrum ... in business and sport alike.
Of course they do.
If they weren't favoured by law they would find themselves sucking on the hind tit by merit ... in business and sport alike.
Blaming the excellent men for their misery is an excuse to divert the world's attention from their ignorance. It's never about their ignorance or stupidity but rather a sad tale of woe being the oppressed race and all.
Their best attempt at partaking is either with outstretched cupped hands or the unwanted forced entry.
Don't be fooled. They love being favoured over other races. Without it they'd have to accept that competing at the same high level is beyond them  ... in business and sport alike.
That's just the way it is.

&

White excellent men cant part themselves from their racist creed.

Been written many times though that South Africa is now full of black excellent men.
Zuma is an excellent man, with the same limitations as the others.
One is that, once you run out of stuff to destroy, no matter how good you are at destroying things, you can no longer destroy.

The path of destruction ends when there is nothing left to destroy.

As to providing oneself an advantage through the use of law, if anyone is interested in learning that way of doing things, learning that from an excellent person is one sure way to learn the trade.

Because, for sure, excellent men have been providing themselves with many advantages this way.
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