Our losing ways continue.....and there is a simple reason

Another Frans Steyn dupe who tell us what he does.at center.   It was Plumtree who saw Fat Fransie at center who said he is NO center at all.   And what is more Montpellier said the same and used him at full back for most of the past season and then regused to renew hois comntract with them.  

I rather believe Plumtree than the brain-deficient on site . 

Another Frans Steyn dupe who tell us what he does.at center.   It was Plumtree who saw Fat Fransie at center who said he is NO center at all.   And what is more Montpellier said the same and used him at full back for most of the past season and then regused to renew hois comntract with them.  

I rather believe Plumtree than the brain-deficient on site . 

Andre is by no means a carthorse. He is the best distributing 12 we have. His offloading the best I've seen from our 12s. Purposeful offloading, not throwing the ball around creating pressure for the recipient. His defence is monstrous. One of our smarter players. We don't have many good passers in our team. He shouldn't be excluded. 

You sound like brother Mike! You say Andre is an excessive crashballer, yet he has a near 50/50 split between passing and running. His offloading stats are very good and as video evidence has repeatedly shown, his distribution is purposeful. He creates space as well as soaks up defenders. These aren't opinions, these are facts. Is he better than Frans? That depends on where Frans is at right now. Furthermore, the best attacking sides have their 13 as their playmaker. This is where they inject their outside backs into the game. 12 is part of the attacking unit that creates that space, using alot of unders lines and decoy runs as well as hard nosed running. Andrè has been delivering these things to the t. 

Incorrect again. Andre has had numerous good tests for the Boks. The closest he had to a poor game was the Twickenham test. In fact, he graded as the RC's best 12. His tests against Los Pumas and Australia were particularly strong. His offloading - since his time in Japan, not the Sharks - is the most purposeful of any 12 I have seen for South Africa. That includes Frans. His pass off either hand, in close quarters or at length is exceptional. In fact, it's better than almost all of our halfbacks. I'd go so far as to say better than every one of our scrumhalves. He is a good decision maker and is calm under pressure. Not passive, calm. He is a very underrated player, which is par for the course for talent in South Africa. Something about mediocrity gets the plastics giddy. 

No need to post clips of Frans, I already know what he is capable of. I, however, cannot give a player I haven't watched since October a seal of approval for this season. If Frans can play like I last saw, I don't have a problem with him being in the squad, or starting ahead of Andre. I have said as much many times. To write off Andre altogether though is disgraceful. To say he hasn't had one good test, after I posted his entire 2018 test season is even worse. I've already covered several of his super rugby games this season. 

Organhuffer says  he remembers this and he remembers that about Frans.

All it shows is ou Organhuffer has a long memory. Bwhahahaha.

Look it's okay to take a look to see how he is doing. But don't tell me his play for the Bok in recent years has been any good. 

Beeno

Remember AO was told De Allende played the fool with Steyn years ago when he was playing for the Sharks when he tried to tackle him and TWICE landed on his backside while De Allende made two clean breaks.   You should have seen what the idiot wrote when I pointed it out to him.      

Damian made zero clean breaks. Neither one broke past the other in any attacking encounter. The one who fell on the ground was Damian when he attempted a lateral tackle on Frans out wide and spun around him all the way to the ground. 

"You should have seen what the idiot wrote when I pointed it out to him"

You pointed out nothing. You couldn't give me any times or specifics. In fact, I posted a video in February which exposed a couple of your lies. Nothing changes. 

Funny  Peculiar - I gave you two instances in games - but fact is all four cases I did quote are true and your video did not show the mishaps of which there were too many.    Fransie is too vrot to play for SA,   And Esterhuizen is not ant better.

"Funny  Peculiar"

Peculiar et funny English. 

You made up two scenarios which were never verifiable at any point in time. This is where you are continually caught out, and why you have no credibility! It's easier to simply lie. As for Frans, show us where this the case. Or is it more hot air? I have debunked you left, right and centre regarding Andre. If you were as smart as you try to have us believe, you'd have had the good sense to abandon your vendetta against this quality player. 

Andre has had more losing tests for the Springboks than winning tests.  This is where you are normally caught out.   I have no vendetta against any player - I leave that to you and Mozart.   I look objectively at players and their performances - both what they do themselves and what the consequences are of what they have done.   

Then I make a realistic assessment of what has been found and write objective assessments - not the repetitive cloud 9  junk you come up with,     

I posted his entire test season, now show me where he was a liability! This is where YOU get caught out! 

Yes, you tried to pin the blame on Andre for the Welsh loss, the 3rd England test, the 2nd Puma test, you even went so far as to accuse Andre of losing the game we won in Brisbane, South Africa! No vendetta indeed. 

A little difficult to do this when the video is available to all. You rely on older games being unavailable. 

I am not the fool you and Mozart are.  I do not blame Esterhuizen or any specific player for test losses - it is a team game.   I never blamed Esterhuizen for any losses.  I said he did N OT contribute to the games on the level expected from a test player and gave may reasons for my conclusions,  

No. You said the Boks lost the Welsh test because of Andre's "stuff ups". You did likewise for the 3rd England test where you claimed he directly lost the game. Then you blamed Andre for the Aussie loss that was a win. Quite the contradiction, because you also blamed Thor for the 3rd England test. You have a habit of doing these things. 

Listen dimness - I did not say what you said I did,  I am not ready for the loonie bin like you are.   I said Esterhuizen was ineffective and when he did make two  line break and gained meters  the Welsh made  turnovers and the territory gained was lost again.   Esterhuizen is a slow center and not an effective one.   His defense is effected by his pace deficiency.

One thing I noted in the last few matches relates to the Sharks lining up their defense.   At breakdowns the forwards line up against the opposing backs and the backs against the opposing forwards.   There is no co-ordination from a defense perspective  and the faster backs break through the forwards rather easily and score tries, while the backline is effectively catering for defense against forwards.  Messy and they leak tries like it is unbelievable.         

Steph carries a significant amount of possession, and also engages in many defensive encounters. This makes him very involved with the Bok game. If we win, if we lose, he is one of the first places to look for answers. I did this against New Zealand in Wellington, and found scores of entry points through our defence. Against the NH sides, his carries were largely ineffective. In many respects, a loose forward equivalent of Damian, but with more heart and not quite as dumb. 

Wynand Olivier is available.......

It's just a suggestion.

Better runners and tacklers - who are you two talking about?  

His tackling around the fringes is most alarming to me. I'd rather have Eben tackle around the fringes, and Steph around midfield. Then again, I'd rather start someone else altogether!

Thank the Lord  - you are not a selector.

If I was a selector, the Boks would most likely be entering this World Cup as reigning champions. 

They would be out and not make the QF's,   Mozart supported all the duds in the Japan disaster in 2015  and they were forced afterwards to bring in players to take them through to the semi-finals of that competition despite having Meyer as coach,   You would obviously have chosen the Steyns as your key selections - so that says it all,   Unplayable players that would have lost against Scotland in that' series,

So that is what you are - a nonthinker about rugby like you can never be imaginable,     

Funny to be insisting Frans is the deal when he has been way overweight and performing poorly when last seen for the  Boks. Why not wait and see how he performs?

Steph is world class at 7 and hopefully Rassie understands that. Just a bigger better version of Juan Smith. 

Well Mikey-kun. Lets have a look at that World Cup. Players who contributed to the downfall of the Boks: 

1. Lambie
2. Kriel
3. Damian
4. Lood
5. Steph
6. Coenie
7. Malherbe
8. Le Roux

1. JP
2. Pollard
3. Duane
4. Victor
5. Schalk
6. Louw
7. Du Preez
8. Etzebeth