SASaffolk
Captain30,741 posts
SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
23 Jan 2017, 00:25#1
We have enough class acts to make up 5 sides - give the coaching job to Dave Rennie and Ackerman as his assistant and they would without doubt be produce a winning formula from 23 of these options:
15. Willie 14. Combrink 13. Kriel 12. de Allende 11. Senatla 10. Jantjies 9. Faf 1. Kitshoff 2. Bismark 3. Marcel v/d Merwe 4. Etzebeth 5. Lood 6. Kriel 7. J. du Plessis 8. Marcel Coetzee
15. Gelant 14. Ulengo 13. Rohan Janse v/Rensburg 12. Serfontein 11. Sergel Petersen 10. Pollard 9. Hougaard 1. Nyakane 2. Marx 3. Malherbe 4. Willemse 5. PSDT 6. Kolisi 7. JL du Preez 8. Arno Botha
15. Coetzee 14. Ismiel 13. Vorster 12. Frans Venter 11. Kolbe 10. Goosen 9. Reinach 1. T. du Toit 2. Akers 3. Koch 4. Jenkins 5. RG Snyman 6. Carr 7. D. du Preez 8. Notshe
15. Taute 14. v/Wyk 13. Am 12. Odendaal 11. Skosan 10. Lambie 9. Groom 1. Pierre Schoeman 2. Scara 3. Coenie 4. J. Kleyn 5. Ruan Botha 6. Labs 7. Kirsten 8. Mtembu
15. Ulrich Beyers 14. Sithole 13. Esterhuizen 12. du Preez 11. Rhule 10. du Plessis 9. v/Zyl 1. Kebble 2. Mbonambi 3. Wilco Louw 4. Erasmus 5. Lewies 6. Kwagga 7. Mostert 8. Liebenberg
MOMozart
Captain49,914 posts
MOMozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Jan 2017, 01:33#2
Dave lets take your first and presumably best team.
Willie is class
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Combrink was good against Ireland, but woeful in the YE tour.
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Kriel is not physical enough and aggressive enough to play test centre, actually he can't even compete at Super level
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Allende has not improved his skills at all in 3 years...in fact he was offloading better in 2014. His tackling is poor and his defensive nous not at provincial level
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I'm actually in favour of giving Senatla a real opportunity ...we need some speed in our backline. That said his defence is suspect.
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Jantjies, like Cooper, can't function against a dominant defence. He is also mentally fragile.
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Faf had a great series against Ireland and he is brave. That said his control of play was non existent after Ireland.
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Kitshoff was not as effective as the Beast, hardly a scrumming revelation.
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Bismarck would add some gravitas.
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Van der merwe is a penalty machine, mostly because his technique is faulty.
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Etzebeth certainly
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Lomp has been an empty suit, far too much was read into his performances in WC pool games against poor opponents.
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Kriel simply wouldn't feature in the kind of titanic battles that Ireland had against the ABs. And his fetching is second class.
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Du Plessis is a better option than Stephanie, but still in the Rossouw mode.
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Marcel plays hard with limited success, I doubt he will return any better.
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Unfortunately this notion of 5 test ready teams, when we just got whipped by Italy is a little hard to believe....right now we can't really put together one team of real test quality.

sharkbok
Captain23,261 posts

sharkbokCaptain23,261 posts
23 Jan 2017, 03:09#3
15. Willie 14. Combrink 13. Kriel (An option on the wing, or at 15 but useless in traffic)
12. de Allende 11. Senatla 10. Jantjies 9. Faf 1. Kitshoff 2. Bismark 3. Marcel v/d Merwe (Adds no value outside scrum)
4. Etzebeth 5. Lood 6. Kriel 7. J. du Plessis 8. Marcel Coetzee
15. Gelant 14. Ulengo 13. Rohan Janse v/Rensburg 12. Serfontein 11. Sergel Petersen 10. Pollard 9. Hougaard 1. Nyakane 2. Marx 3. Malherbe 4. Willemse 5. PSDT 6. Kolisi 7. JL du Preez
8. Arno Botha. Creatine got the better of him. A small forward that cant fetch is useless at test level
15. Coetzee 14. Ismiel 13. Vorster 12. Frans Venter 11. (not test standard). Limited pace, step or pass.
Kolbe 10. Goosen 9. Reinach - another scrumhalf that cant pass.
1. T. du Toit 2. Akers 3. Koch 4. Jenkins 5. RG Snyman
6. Carr 7. A one season pony. Another small loossie that cant fetch.
D. du Preez 8. Notshe
15. Taute 14. Lacks the pace required for test rugby, amongst other attributes.v/Wyk 13. Am A flank playing in the backline12. Odendaal 11. Skosan 10. Lambie 9. Groom 1.
Pierre Schoeman 2. Scara 3. Coenie 4. J. Kleyn 5. Ruan Botha 6. Labs 7. Kirsten 8. Mtembu
15. Ulrich Beyers 14. Sithole 13. Esterhuizen 12. du Preez 11. Rhule 10. du Plessis 9. v/Zyl 1. Kebble 2. Mbonambi 3. Wilco Louw 4. Erasmus 5. Lewies 6. Kwagga 7. Mostert (wee midget Mostert is a bean pole)8. Liebenberg
I have crossed out the no-hopers at test level, at least most of them.The ones highlighted are the best options at the moment.
Some of the players i have actually never seen play- so they might get crossed off very soon.