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Our rugby is just too frenetic

Started by Mozart7 REPLIES473 VIEWS· 03 Apr 2016, 16:25
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Apr 2016, 16:25
#1
03 Apr 2016, 16:25#1
The Bools/Cheetahs game was non stop collisions....even the backs were looking to take on the man. So you get one or two passes, and then a fully committed charge into the nearest defender. The result often a turnover...it's all at 100 per cent effort, uncontrolled.

Contrast the Saders often the initial phases are less dynamic, the player more concerned with keeping his feet rather than bashing over the defender. From that position the ball is offloaded to players who run onto the impeded player. Inevitably one of those offloads releases the player through the defensive line. And then the gas switch is flipped.

So much more effective...so much less likely to result in turnovers.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Apr 2016, 17:03
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03 Apr 2016, 17:03#2
 What do you really like?   If  remember correctly you do like kicking by the flyhalf and crashballing by the 12.  Now you complain about crashballing which occurred in one match.  
I do think that the worst SA team insofar backline play is concerned is in fact the Stormers.      
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
04 Apr 2016, 01:40
#3
04 Apr 2016, 01:40#3
When asked if he had learnt something at the 'Tahs, Jacques Potgieter said his team mates had told him not to die with the ball in the tackle but to try instead  to offload in the tackle. It seems like in southern hemisphere rugby SAFFA players are the only ones still crash-balling. It's no wonder that our attacks never seem to cross the gain line even with plenty of possession and phases. Moz, you are spot on with your observation.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Apr 2016, 16:17
#4
04 Apr 2016, 16:17#4
 Mozart is the great crashball enthusiast - that is why according to him Frans Steyn was king.   No suddenly he is opposed and when De Allende crashballs when getting dud balls, he has become a tractoring player.
When following Mozart's ideas about rugby one is in a minefield - his ideas shift depending of his likes or dislikes of players. 
When Morne was around he was king because he could donkey-kick the hell out of balls and was accurate at kicking at goal.   According to one famous Mozart contribution 90% of the role of a flyhalf is to kick balls.  When Steyn was in the area, Mozart advertised that balls should not be passed to backline players at all.
It is very, very difficult to understand what Mozart expect from players.
From my perspective aimless kicking and crashballing is on par - ex treme BS by rugby players.             
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Apr 2016, 16:38
#5
04 Apr 2016, 16:38#5
 Actually not. Frans is one of the few South African centers who looks to offload. It goes all the way back to the 2007 WC where as a youngster he offloaded brilliantly against the Bargies.
One of the best periods in Allende's career came in the first part of the S15 last year, when he was offloading regularly. He was compared to SBW. By the end of the S15 and through the WC, he became intent on breaking the tackle. That ushered in his era of tractoring, which produced absolutely nothing at the WC. He needs to get back to a more balanced game, which includes offloading.

Kicking is a crucial part of flyhalf play. It's how the game is controlled. Being able to clear out of your own half is non negotiable. Having a sense when a rolling kick to touch  or a stab behind the defence is your best option...is non negotiable. Kicking a high percentage of your goal kicks and being able to make those kicks under pressure as Morne did against the Lions.....not negotiable.

Understand the ABs kicked the ball more than either Oz in the final or the Boks in the semi. Kicking is a critical part of playing winning rugby.

Both the Chiefs and the Crusaders kicked more from hand than the Lions in their recent matches. What you call " aimless kicking' is part of winning in the modern game.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Apr 2016, 18:44
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04 Apr 2016, 18:44#6
 Fransie's off-loads was so rare that it did not off-set the huge number of ball possession losses caused by him.  Strategic kicking is a major part of the game - but there is a difference between strategic kicking and the BS dished up by the Steyns and in most kicks by SA teams.
What you said about De Allende is utter crap.  You can do off-loads if you get in a normal backline play - but what happened in the WC was utter crap.  De Allende got the ball as third receiver after a forward handled the game and by that time he was in traffic when he had no option whatsoever, but to try and break tackles in traffic.  You must appreciate that what was the game plan of Meyer in the WC was utter BS and that destroy utterly any normal backline play.
         


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Apr 2016, 19:48
#7
04 Apr 2016, 19:48#7
How utterly , utterly utter.
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
05 Apr 2016, 01:39
#8
05 Apr 2016, 01:39#8
 Whooosh! Hey Mike....try and fix the brakes will yu!?
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