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Player Performance evaluation - Round 4

Started by clevermike10 REPLIES136 VIEWS· 08 Mar 2015, 15:49
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Mar 2015, 15:49
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08 Mar 2015, 15:49#1

Mozart - the leader of the idiots brigade on this site wrote a book about certain players and went into his standard BS phase again.  So l;ets look at the standings of players in the five SA teams who played yesterday and grade them on the basis of performance:-

For that purpose I am using the same stats he quoted from so extensively in his contributions.

  

No 12 position


1  Damian de Allende


de Allende0/001/9/105626205/00/000/0


2   Jan Serfontein


Serfontein1/050/6/623021211/30/000/0


3   Harold Vorster


Vorster0/003/2/618000111/20/000/0


4   Michael van der Spuy


van der Spuy0/000/0/11201005/10/000/0


5   Francois Steyn


Steyn0/002/4/6700228/20/031/0


Please note that Van der Spuy is a player that was rejected by the Stormers and consequently started for the Cheetahs at 12 this year and that Vorster is a rookie in his second Super 15 game yesterday.


Only a supreme idiot like Mozart would claim that Steyn was good enough to be considered as a potential Springbok - but we know what to expect from him.


No 5 lock


As per normal Mozart launched a major assault on P-S du Toit yesterday and even and the audacity to quote his stats - so what is the factual information:-


1   Pieter-Steph du Toit


PS du Toit0/000/2/51201029/26/100/0


2   Michael Muller


Muller0/000/2/22000012/14/000/0


3    Victor Matfield


Matfield0/000/2/23000012/05/010/0


4   Francois Uys


F Uys0/000/4/30000010/03/000/0


5   Manual Carriza


Carizza0/000/0/1000015/05/110/0


It has to be borne in mind that Muller was up against one of the top locks in New Zealand rugby - Tuipulotu - who have played for the AB's and Muller in that game did not let his team down.


It was with great hesitation that I put Matfield at 3 - he is physically deficient and contributes zero to Tight 5 play - as was evident again yesterday.


Du Toit was in a side where the other 4 Tight 5 players was under serious pressure and he fought a lone battle against overwhelming odds and put in a really creditable performance.  


No 7 Loosies


1  Lappies Labuschagne


Labuschagne0/000/3/949110113/00/010/0


2   Warren Tecklenburg


Tecklenburg0/000/0/22000023/00/000/0


3   Willem Alberts


Alberts0/100/1/38000010/30/000/0


4   Siya Kolisi


Kolisi0/000/1/31400105/10/000/0


5  Oupa Mohoje


Mohoje0/000/1/211010011/13/010/0


It is with great hewssitation that I put Alberts third in this case.   He is slow and tend to miss tackles as a result of that.  His ball carries are insignificant.   However, his main deficiency is his total inability to do ball protection and breakdown ball recovery - making him at best an inadequate loosie.   In some way in the latter category both Kolisi and Mohje are better than Alberts.   The only reason he gets my votre for third is the one incident that - unlike him normally - he did pass a ball to Lambie who scored a try.   For the rest he was totally insignificant.  


So who is the madman Mozart who knows nothing about player assessments punting - obviously Francois Steyn, Victor Matfield and Willem Alberts - what a joke.      




 


 



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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
08 Mar 2015, 16:06
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08 Mar 2015, 16:06#2
 Combinations are often overlooked and undervalued by people, the Pollard - Serfontein combination is looking good but it's only been one game where they have performed excellently together . I wouldn't mind if Serfontein got the 12 shirt ahead of De Allende for the Boks, but I must say that I don't want De Allende wasting his time at 13 now as he looks too good at 12.  
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Mar 2015, 16:17
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08 Mar 2015, 16:17#3
 Shezza
I have no problem with Serfontein at 12 - but we have a persistent problem at 13.   I think it would be in the interest of the team to play De Allende at 12 and move Serfontein to 13. 
You must remember that yesterday the Pollard-Serfontein combination was up against the rather poor defenders - Pietersen and Van der Spuy and that luxury would not be available to them in the test arena.         
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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
08 Mar 2015, 16:39
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08 Mar 2015, 16:39#4
I would be happy with Serfontein at 13 and De Allende at 12, in fact I'd much rather that over the Serfontein at 12 and De Allende at 13. 
That's why I've said it's only been one superb game so far, hopefully the momentum will carry on as well as the confidence boost.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Mar 2015, 16:43
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08 Mar 2015, 16:43#5

No it's simple. We could pick Stephanie and he willl make mistakes and get bamboozled in key lineouts........he is still not a finished product. 

 

We could pick Step, but he would be a zero as he was all 2014....he doesn't have the physical equipment. He will be dominated by SBW just as he was dominated by Damien

 

We could pick Lambie but he would disappear as he did in the second half yesterday if his forwards aren't dominating .

 

We could pick Lappies and he would be man handled in the tests.

 

We could pick Coetzee, get lots of energy, but lose the battle on the ground as the Sharks did yesterday

 

We could pick Reinach and he will get charged or put a kick directly into touch just at the wrong time.

 

 

None of those players are WC winners. They will have good weeks and bad weeks in the S15, but come the knockout stages of the WC they will be outplayed by hungry, tougher competitors. I don't enjoy saying this, because I then have to respond to so many silly attacks, but it's the truth.

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ShezzaPro2,471 posts
08 Mar 2015, 17:41
#6
08 Mar 2015, 17:41#6
It's not the truth, it's your opinion.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Mar 2015, 17:56
#7
08 Mar 2015, 17:56#7
There's a difference?  
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Mar 2015, 18:10
#8
08 Mar 2015, 18:10#8
Shezza
I agree with you - that is a huge difference between Mozart's opinion and reality.   Hde knows nothing about player performance realities and goes on a vague theory that some players - who has lost their mojo years ago are still good enough for the Springbok team - with him experience count for everything - performances means nothing.  
So he came up with imagined theories - like some players will be manhandled in tests - forgetting that the players he punts will not be manhandled - they will just be run over - and discarded as being absolute rubbish by the opposing teams.  
He will never comment on weaknesses of players he supports - even when they bugger up everything they touch.   That is why his opinions is not worth anything other than a joke and something which make me wonder whether he is in fact sane and not seriously deluded.           
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Mar 2015, 18:48
#9
08 Mar 2015, 18:48#9
Moronic here is a sample of your views. Pick de Kock...drop Amla. Say no more 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
08 Mar 2015, 18:54
#10
08 Mar 2015, 18:54#10
 Bloody liar - where did I ever say drop Amla - you bloody prig?
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Mar 2015, 21:25
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08 Mar 2015, 21:25#11
 PSDT was by far the best 5 yet again. Did Matfield play or was he pacing himself again?
The fact PSDT lost two balls trying to be clever carrying it in one hand is hardly defining. It's his physicality that stands out. Etzebeth will match it shortly. du Plessis is matching it right now.
PSDT is by far our best lock right now.
Oh and by the way when has he ever been bamboozled in the line outs?
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