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Playing traditional Bok rugby the Poms take 14 in a row....

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Sept 2024, 06:32
#41
10 Sept 2024, 06:32#41

Idiocy alert - village idiot by a serial liar on rugby issues , 

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
10 Sept 2024, 06:48
#42
10 Sept 2024, 06:48#42

ouMaaik, what happened to Trad ?

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Sept 2024, 14:59
#43
11 Sept 2024, 14:59#43

Don't know - he left the site because idiots reign supreme on it.

The fact is Mozart is way ut of zinc here - I looked at the final in 2007 and found that the Springboks did not dominate in the forwards game.   They were not strongest in scrumming and the English made three possession turnovers at breakdowns.

The fact is the English made stupid mistakes that caused penalties against them and that was what caused them to lose in the final.    The Springboks accrding to Smit had no real game pan in te test and there was not a single backline atack in the match.   There was no usage  Pietersen and Habana noted in the match.   

There was no dffernece in that match and the shit Meyer produced in 2015 in the semi.   That made the 2007 the worst performing WC final the Springboks played in.   As to the Round Robin matches the one against Tonga was garbage.  Seven minutes before the game ended the Tonga team was still in the lead and it looked like a loss to spectators.    That was poor shit - end of story,  

If the AB's or the Aussies played SA in the final the loss bythe Springboks loss would have looked like cricket scores.   In the TR-nations in 2007 the AB's beat the Springbks 33-6 - it would have been much worse in the final.      ,                       

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Sept 2024, 02:52
#44
12 Sept 2024, 02:52#44

So Clever how many players from the team that lost 33 to 6 to the ABs played in the final? Exactly 2, one of whom was JP Peterson and he was played out of position in the AB game. It was totally a B team used to play a dead rubber game away in NZ after the TN was already lost.

As usual huge assertions from you with no effort to check the facts…adding to the rivers of bs you produce on here.

And have you forgotten the Boks destroyed England by 36 points to 0 in the pool game. An English team that went on to beat Australia and AB beating France.

And in the final we won by 9 points ….not by a lucky 1 point. The Boks won the WC with the smallest winning margin being 9 points, the next smallest winning margin being 17 points. The most dominant winning performance in WC history. 

There you are, totally blown up again…why don’t you stop humiliating yourself.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
12 Sept 2024, 18:22
#45
12 Sept 2024, 18:22#45

Moart

By the way how many ries did the Sprognoks soed in the 2023 RWC?

Yor desciption that the forwards dominated in the final of 2007 is a pipedream thought out by you.  The scri,s were static and in some cases going slightly backwards by the Sprronboks,   The ne line-ut that nearly cost us a try by te Emglis stmmed from Matfeld knocking the ball forward  when Matfield was tying to take an English thow in ball.

I the relevany case the English younhster ran striaight through a tackle attempt by Sten = the latter missed two ohr tackles in the final.   When the issue was discussed after the final and asked what te Springboks woud do if the try was indeed scored - Smit saod the Springks would have to find a way of scoring one themselves. - that show waht a shit game plan was used,   In any event yjr TRi-Naions in 2007 shoed the following results

                                                                Points for         Points against       

New Zealand                                               100                       59

Australia                                                        76                       80\

SA                                                                  66                      103

That in a WC year.   I was atrocious and planless rugby played by the Springboks and the none=existent game plan of White,   

Exactly so  - the English team had a number of younge players in the Roud Robin match which SA won by 36-0.    In that match the Springboks had a functioia; game plan attirbuted to Eddie Jones,    In te final the English brought bck all the rugby geriatrcs that they could find and one should ave expected fr them to beat the Engish even easier than they in fact did/   But the Springboksd struggled badly in the match with no game plan in evidence.    The English gave away 5 cnvertable penalties.   The Springboks ended up  giving away 3 penalties that could have been converted - but nly 2 were used for goa kicks 0- the ther 2 was corner kicks,              

You come up with all kinds of BS assumptions on the tounnament - but the fact is the Springboks had theeasiest rout to the final ever,   That is a fact as well and all you distortions of facts count for nothing -that is a fact as well.    In 2007 the Springoks plyed so badly against Tonga - they nearly lost the macth,    

Yaking into account all the factors involved  = the rugby played in the 2007 WC fial was the worst perormance of he Springboks ever in any match they played in  the other 3 WC  finals.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
12 Sept 2024, 18:42
#46
12 Sept 2024, 18:42#46

Another issue about at you said in the past about Traditional SA rugby was the 10 man game.    When asked abot the unction of a flyhalf in tests wrote on site you said it onsists 90% of the time to kick balls abd yoe also stated under Meyer the Springboks  according to you were playing traditioal Springbok rugby.   

Another weird  situation is your description of Traditonal Springbok Rugby was the rugby played by the rugby played when Meyer was coach,    With 90% of the kicks being  kicked away aimlessly you  simply used he erm irrespective of what happemed in matches.  If the Springboks win tests they wer playing traditional rugb - if they lost tests they were not, 

So make up your mind - Nasas said the term is BS - but in your twisted and prejudiced mind BS reigns supreme/                

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Sept 2024, 22:47
#47
12 Sept 2024, 22:47#47

Too much drivel. The 2007 Boks smallest margin of victory was 9 points in any game they played in the WC. 


But you want to know the try score in WCs:

Jake 33 tries at WC 2007…Rasmus 27 tries in 2023.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Sept 2024, 21:05
#48
13 Sept 2024, 21:05#48

Have you seen tje route to the final in 2007 and 2023 respectively and learnt nothing of it and you make comairsons that influenced for instance the scoring of tries, 

The only comparisons is suurely the differnce between tries scored and tries given away in tests/  That is what is important for the team as a whole in both attack and defense into account. 

Another comparison is to include the  2019 WC also,

After watching of the repetitive drivel on site havew it ever struck you that the 2011 WC quad were basically all from the 2007 WC squad - but they could not get into te play-off  stage,.   Those were the players Meyer tried to use in 2016 WC - with very poor results,   Weird how things like that happen over 12 years. That would be  worthwhile issue that could be  dealt with on site,    In such a case  it is an evaluation of players involved and not the xcoaches,  

The Springboks won the follwing trouphies:-

*       a second  RWC;

*       the Freeedom Cup   =   Played between the AB's and Springboks;

*       the  Mandela Plate   =   Played between the Wallabies and Springboks.

The  winner  of the Champions Cup will inevitably be SA

Terrible to have  such a desperitely poor coach with that kind of record/     

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
13 Sept 2024, 21:40
#49
13 Sept 2024, 21:40#49

"Too much drivel. The 2007 Boks smallest margin of victory was 9 points in any game they played in the WC. 


But you want to know the try score in WCs:

Jake 33 tries at WC 2007…Rasmus 27 tries in 2023."

Too much drivel...the 2007 Bokke only won 1 RWC and only beat England and Argentina on their way to the top.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Sept 2024, 22:20
#50
13 Sept 2024, 22:20#50

Drad 

Mozart is lying to you - I was at tthe relevant test and the Springboks beat TONGA by 5 points,   Tonga was in the lead at minute 70 aad then the Springboks scored a converted try and the end result was 30-25 - in other words it was a waste of money to go and watch the garbage - but had to sit in disbelieve watching it since we had to travel from Essex to Lens to watch it,   Should rather have gone to Paris to watch the  dancng tiis in the Moulin Rouge.  

Went their twice anyway.       

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