Pollard on Rassie

Very mature of Pollard to overlook Rasmus’ almost disastrous overlooking of him for the WC

I’m incapable of grasping why our genius coach would leave a WC winning flyhalf at home to take a 4th scrumhalf….I confess.

The part where there are no rules against taking an injured player close to recovery and if he doesn’t recover, swopping him out. But if he isn’t chosen he can only be called up if another player is injured. All verified by a ChatGTP search.

Because of the replacment rule appicable to squat selection -  if he is injured and he is nomnated and canno play in WC matches he cannot be replaced.

Go back to 2015 in te case of Ja de Villiers by the time he was nominated to play in the WC - when he got inhure in the second match - Meyer could no eplace him     Anothe case was Willem Alberts - he was nminated during a time he was inhured and had nt played any rugby for more than a year - he did not play in any WC injury,    Meyer asked the WC Committee whether eh could replace Alberts and the answer came back as NO,     

Mpower

'They knew that Pollard was over the worst Part of his injury. He was not injured at that stage anymore."

Who were the  "they" you are referring to.    Did hey ahe the medical updaing repor tha indicated that Pollardd was fit to play in the RWC?.

Easmus would have had the medical progress report when the squad nominee wer submitted before 31 May 2023.    So he houht it was dicy to include Pollard at thats tage when he played no rugby at all in 2023 by the date of submission.

Ersmus si not te fool you people claim he is - he would have the real info to weigh up the situation at that time and obviously thought he could not take a chance with the Pollard selection.

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Mpower

BS  - the doctors gave him a progress report that you have enver seen and cnow you claim that the decision was wrong.     Pollard retuned to play after completion of the  RC  6 eeks ater when ehs tarted to play for his club.\

That was two months after they had to submit the squad to the RWC,    h e is not a BSter like Meyer who picked players and hen found himself stranded with unplaybale players - 8 of them - whom he could not rplacxe because of BS selection of non-playing players.

You could not be sure about what the emedical rogress report conained neither tdo I - but if the report said Pollard may be able to return to play by mid-September 2023 the decision was the right one at the time.   Remember about the recent Shaca case - the doctors said he could play in November and then changedit to January 2025.    

To claim that Erasmus and Nienaber made the wrng decision without any real evidnce you are talking  BS.    Because e started to play more than two months later is not proof that the decision taken i may was wrong..   After he fact occurenes is no evidence at all at the time the decision had to be taken.   

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FFS we have been through all this before. I did a ChatGTP search which confirmed there is NO rule saying a player who started the WC injured can not be replaced if he doesn’t recover in time to play.

BS

Since when is Chat/GP the authrotiy on such issues,    There are very clear precedents,   Why could Meyer not replace De Villiers and Alberts in 2015.   The reason was both were sufered from injuries and Fat Alberts had so many fat tears that he did not play any  rugby for 14 months when the squad list had to be submitted to the RWC - he same can bes aid of De Villier who had played no rugby since November 2022,    

When De Villiers was injured the logical thing to do was to call up a replacement but the RWC did not allow him to do so.    During th series Meyer threatened to replace Alberts - but again the RWC orgnizers  put an end to it and would not allow it.

Spf FFS  stop be a raving idiot when it comes it this issue - anybody who believe your ravings would alsio believe he moon is amde o green cheese.

Fine - but that implies with emphasis on MAY these replacement would have to get approval It does not tell us what guidlines the WC  committee follws in cnsidering approval.   That is where Meyer could not get approval for replacement of De Villiers and Alberts.     

I agree with Maaik...Chat can't tell me where to find the applicable law/rule...the SS article said you can't replace an injured player who was injured at the time of squad selection...and I can remember these kind of discussions when Jean was in a race to prove his fitness before he could be considered for squad inclusion in 2024...maybe it's a SA Rugby policy or something...Chat is a tool, but not foolproof.

This from Chat GTP, which for the record has no opinion on this beyond a much more comprehensive search than an individual could typically do:

Yes, if a player is injured at the time the squad is initially selected and it becomes clear they won’t recover in time to participate, that player can still be replaced. However, teams need to follow World Rugby's procedures, which typically require:

1. Medical evidence to support that the player cannot participate due to injury.
2. Approval from World Rugby’s medical committee to authorize the replacement.

At the 2023 Rugby World Cup, several players traveled with their teams but were ultimately replaced without ever taking the field due to injuries that did not improve in time:

1. Emoni Narawa (New Zealand) - Selected despite a back injury, Narawa was replaced by Ethan Blackadder before he could participate in any games after it became clear his recovery wouldn’t be fast enough to contribute.
2. Luca Bigi (Italy) - Bigi, Italy’s hooker, was replaced by Marco Manfredi after his injury prevented him from making an appearance. His lingering issues meant he was unable to be cleared for play, and Manfredi filled his spot on the roster.

World Rugby’s regulations allow a team to replace an injured player at the Rugby World Cup, even if that player was already carrying an injury when the squad was initially selected. This rule is grounded in player welfare considerations, allowing injured players to be replaced if it becomes evident they cannot recover in time to participate in any matches. Each replacement, however, requires World Rugby’s official approval, which mandates medical documentation proving that the injury prevents the player from playing in the tournament.

Under Regulation 9, player release and replacement are subject to verification of injury status to safeguard player health and maintain team integrity. This protocol is designed to be flexible enough to accommodate players who may need to travel with the squad while their fitness is assessed and, if necessary, be replaced later if they are unable to recover in time for competition

Dave

Both Mozart and Mpower is hallutionating,    I gave them the examples of  De Villiers and Alerts in 2015 - where WR refuse to allow them to be replaced and hey wiould not bcause he whole onject of their BS is a desperate case of  their constant efforts to belittle Erasmus.

I challenged  them to indciate who they wan Erasms replaced with and Mpower came up with a list of shit inclusicve of Jake White and poined out that any coaches fired by their fracnhse or clubs should never be on his list and White was one of those,

A noth er example is Ben C urry in the England squad,   He was the top England Loosie in 2019 - but injured at the time the list was submitted - so England did not put Ben Curry on their squad list - but included his younger brother Tom Curry on their squad list.    Tom Curry made a huge name for himself in thta tournament - but what is of importance is why did England left Ben Curry of their squad list if there was no prolem should he not be able to continue playing if he played in the WC abd got injured again - that is beyond their level of understanding.  .   .     

The obvious BSter Mozart  - coward as he is - did not repond to it, 

Is it not time that some memebrs realize that heir repetitive BS is boring? 

And currently with the 2nd ranked team despite the  overwhelmingly best talent. One win out of four  against Ireland despite having a 2 to 1 home field advantage. What are the Harrassmiss tactics….box kicks, defense, scrumming penalties and mauls. And gimmicks no lasting new tactics. 

But dimness - ciurrently the Springboks are the RC cup holders and lost he one test against Ireladn after beating them in the first test and the margin betwen Ireland and SA is extremely thin.   The fact is that Ireland managed to win the second tests bcause of two dropped goals towrds he end of the 2nd test  and that makes everything so complicated by the drama queen on site.

Mozart 

If Erasmus is such a poor coach - give us the name of who you want as coach,             

The Boks may be number one if NZ do what we apparently can’t do, beat Ireland. This was a super favorable year for Springboks…a RC where we played two away tests against Australia and two home games against our only real opposition in the RC …NZ. Followed by a year end tour against the three weakest opponents, England, Scotland and the Wallies.

You couldn’t have scripted it better. The next three years will be much harder and we will be able to see Erasmus more clearly.