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Pollard on Rassie

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Oct 2024, 04:00
#41
31 Oct 2024, 04:00#41

You think they are better than France and Ireland?

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
31 Oct 2024, 09:26
#42
31 Oct 2024, 09:26#42
Oh without doubt 100% we have better players in every position other than Doris at 8 for Ireland and DuPont at 9 for France Plus we have the best coach in the business
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MpowerPro5,061 posts
31 Oct 2024, 11:29
#43
31 Oct 2024, 11:29#43
What about Charles Ollivon, Gregory alldritt? Josh van de Flier, Doris and Ryan Baird gave our loosies a uphill battle. Then there hooker Ronan Kelleher had very good games. The Irish and the French is no push overs.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
31 Oct 2024, 12:57
#44
31 Oct 2024, 12:57#44

I will choose a team that will beat Ireland and France with all players fit  ahd rcovered from injury:-

15    Fassie

14    Kole

13    Moodie

12    Willemse

11    Van der Merwe

10    Feinberg-Mngomezulu

9      Williams

8      Roos

7      Du Toit

6     Hanekom

5     Snyman

4     Etzebeth

3     Du Toit

2     Marx

1     Nche

16    Venter

17    Steenekmp

18     Malherbe

19     Schickerling

20     Tshituka

21     Hndrikse

22      Hesrikse

23      De Allende/Pollard

 


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MpowerPro5,061 posts
31 Oct 2024, 13:17
#45
31 Oct 2024, 13:17#45
You can’t start Hanekom and have him on the Bench to?? Hanekom is also comfortable at 8. I would pick Elrigh Louw instead of Roos. Then my 12 Would be David Kriel and 13 Rikus Pretorius. Willemse is a 15 and is very good there. But so is Fassi. One of them on the Bench instead of DR. Allendig . Your wing is that Duhan V D Merwe?? His playing for the Scotties. But if he would play for us that would be great. Otherwise what about Arendse? Malherbe is a much stronger TH than Thomas. And Wilco is stronger than both of them. Good team otherwise, Uncle Mike.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Oct 2024, 13:45
#46
31 Oct 2024, 13:45#46

Roos…he has been even less impressive than Jason Dixon. If JD was impressive provincially but a dud in tests ..,Roos too.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Oct 2024, 13:52
#47
31 Oct 2024, 13:52#47

By the way Dave, that wasn’t the question. I said Wales, Scotland and England were the weakest opponents…admittedly skipping over Italy. You said that was BS in your usual polite fashion. My question is do you rate Scotland. Wales and England above NZ’s opponents, France and Ireland?


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MpowerPro5,061 posts
31 Oct 2024, 13:53
#48
31 Oct 2024, 13:53#48
Is 21 and 22 Jordan and Jaden Hendrikse? You can also pick one or two of Ruan Vermaak, Ruben van Heerden, Reinhardt Ludwig , Corne Rahl as Lock Cover.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
31 Oct 2024, 14:09
#49
31 Oct 2024, 14:09#49

Thanks for pointing it out and buggereed up wth Hanekom.  

No Vn der Merwe who plays for the Lions.

I know mlherbe is better than any oher player at Tighthead at the moment - but he is older than the other players and I wold rather have him as a back-up in a team.   He is hardworking in tight forward play.

No I disagree about  Willemse - he is a natural 12 and has played at 12 regularly  in he past - a naural 12 anway.    I have seen Low play a number of imes and I think Roos would be a much  better link plaaaaayer adding to backline attacking play.   He  has much more pace than Louw,  

n picling  the above team I look at th startegy Brown brings to the Springboks game plan.  

I think Pollard and Kolisi will by 2027 both be in he coaching devlopment progam of Erasmus and Pollard may also be a player aas a back-up because of his goasl-kicker.   I like Wolhuter as a potential additiona flyhalf in that suad as well,     The oher potential flyhalfs leaves me sone cold,.    Erasmus may do with Pollardd that he did with Frans Steyn in 2019.   

I like Kriel as a center - but think he may be bettr at 13 than he is at 12.At present performances he is at present below the standaerd set by De Allende. for inside center usage.

Anyay - instad of the repetitive  posting about how por a coach erasmus is - I thried to fnd something about the future  and not the past that we can discusss a a topic anyway,   Maybe I should have started a ew hreat on the issue and then  gets inputs that way,   

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
31 Oct 2024, 15:29
#50
31 Oct 2024, 15:29#50
No but I’d rate England up there with France As for Roos being poor at test level bullshit
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MpowerPro5,061 posts
31 Oct 2024, 16:11
#51
31 Oct 2024, 16:11#51
The AB vs Ireland is going to be a tough game and the outcome will be very interesting. I think Ireland will be favourites. So will the French game, with France also possible be the favourites . But that being said the AB stands a good chance of winning both. Our games is easier but I think next year we also play Ireland at home and France not sure? I think Roos will have a very tough route to get back into Bok Contention. The likes of Elrigh, Hanekom ( which I think is going to be a Bok Super star) then possible Tsituka brothers and don’t forget Jasper Wiese, is standing in his way. His Brother Cobus Wiese will also Play himself into contention. Versatile player that can play Lock or flanker on both sides of the scrum.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
31 Oct 2024, 17:02
#52
31 Oct 2024, 17:02#52

Mozart

Schickerling never played in tests that I know of - Maybe in the period when Coetzee was coach and all players failed,   However Schikerling  suffered a broken neck that kept him out of rugby for between 2 and 3 years.   So in which tests w as he a failure?


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Oct 2024, 21:38
#53
31 Oct 2024, 21:38#53

I never  said Snickerling was a failure in tests.. I said I have never seen him play an impressive match. Roos, however, I have seen play impressively at lower levels, but fade for the Boks…..famously overwhelmed by the wee Portuguese wing.

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becsPro4,378 posts
31 Oct 2024, 21:54
#54
31 Oct 2024, 21:54#54

I’m not sure where we should be rated, Saffolk. 

Some of the selections he’s made for this Test are a bit of a worry ! 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
31 Oct 2024, 22:08
#55
31 Oct 2024, 22:08#55

Mozart let us et one hing straight.   you said he following:-

"  JD was impressive provincially but a dud in tests ..,Roos too.

Now you c hange what you said 

This is why nobody can ever trust  you ib any posting you make on site,   I am pretty cerrtain you never saw Schickeling playung in any match - so you are talking utter BS as expectred from you - but I will gyve you another chance - in which matches did you see him play and in which year?

Be careful it is a qustion that can easily be checked out so don't lie again.       ,.   

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Oct 2024, 22:38
#56
31 Oct 2024, 22:38#56

Look at the post, read it again, seek help if you need it. JD is obviously Jason Dixon….not Snickerling

Mozart

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Oct 31, 2024, 13:45

Roos…he has been even less impressive than Jason Dixon. If JD was impressive provincially but a dud in tests ..,Roos too.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Nov 2024, 01:08
#57
01 Nov 2024, 01:08#57

Mozart

One can only wonder what  twists you will come up next with.   You started a sentense  about Schickerling and stated  clarly h was a did in non-existent tests - there was no "If"  before JD when I copied your own post - now there suddenly is.   So all I wanted to know in which tests he was a failure.    

Then you should have said  sorry I was wrong and the argument would have been over.   You did the dishonest opposite and now you are making it worse.   The fact is twisting things around and adding a word that was not in you orginial posting - you prove to be dishonest and a poster whom nobody should believe because he is a habitual liar and fraud is not beyond you.

So admit you wrote something that was true on site and maybe save some face under the circumstanes 

  

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 Nov 2024, 03:30
#58
01 Nov 2024, 03:30#58

It was not a sentence about Schickerling, it was a continuation of the discussion of Jason Dixon who I shortened to JD. There is no ‘if’ there because you cut off the copy after the start of the sentence.


The sense of the paragraph is…if Jason Dixon was impressive provincially but a flop internationally Roos was as well….it had absolutely nothing to do with JD Schickerling.


And think about your big finding. What difference does the ‘if’ make? None, in fact the ‘if’ somewhat weakens the case against  of JD (Dixon)….introduces a bit of doubt. Your botched paste was stronger.

Once again you make a mistake….leave off the ‘if’ and then accuse me of lying.


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 Nov 2024, 04:16
#59
01 Nov 2024, 04:16#59

And you want some attention. Above you posted this trying to still claim a player who was injured before the WC couldn’t be replaced:

‘ Both Mozart and Mpower is hallutionating,    I gave them the examples of  De Villiers and Alerts in 2015 - where WR refuse to allow them to be replaced and hey wiould not bcause he whole onject of their BS is a desperate case of  their constant efforts to belittle Erasmus,

….

Here’s what actually happened:

‘ De Villiers will return to South Africa for further specialist treatment and Jan Serfontein will join the squad in Newcastle on Monday.’ Serfontein was a sub against the USA.

….

Don’t bother to admit you were wrong, you’ll just repeat the claim in a few weeks.  I have genuinely been trying to avoid arguing with you since your concerning  health revelation, but you just  won’t be denied.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Nov 2024, 06:16
#60
01 Nov 2024, 06:16#60

Don't admityou r talking shit - I mentioned JD Schickerling in the team I selecd never mentioned Dixion at all.   You commented on Schickerling  and hrew in Roos as well.   Yoj wer cpmmning on h am i posed and no now suddenly you refer to Dixon.

We had this kind of shit from you for years.    Si I waioed for a while and hen asked you what ets Schickerling played in ad you were caught twising it around and frist came out with  BS about what ou have seen of him on franchise level at all.    Whn I quoted your statemnt - you changed what you initially wrote by putting an If before JD,

I did not speak about Dixon at all and the Louw Mpoer referred to iro of loosies wa not emntiond either - he mentioned Louw - so he normal BS on your part followed.   You condemened a player you have never seen playing as inadequate - shos you your player assessment is about on par ith all the BS you normally spout on site.

By the way if Serfonein replaced De Villiers in the squad i ould have been officially announced s a replacement and the lod o ply in evey susequent match on De Allende would agains he inot tests in the Round Robin stage would ahve ebeen lightned - but it was NOT nd after playing for five weeks in a row in the series it was impssibl to expec from any playe in any WC o do that.   THere are 31 sud membr dselected in the WC to all for rest games during the Round Robin stage of the tournament against weaker teams - bu in 2015 it just did not happen.   Same with De Jager - because the useles at that time Matfield  could not be used.   When  came from the bench he fucked up royally.   

You strated eJD shit story and I caught you out twice.   So live with it - it just exposea gain wht you routinely writ on site.  

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 Nov 2024, 14:17
#61
01 Nov 2024, 14:17#61

Nobody cares who you spoke about, nobody reads your posts. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 Nov 2024, 14:27
#62
01 Nov 2024, 14:27#62

But you do have an opportunity right here to admit you were wrong about Jean not being substituted at RWC15. Do it!

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Nov 2024, 14:53
#63
01 Nov 2024, 14:53#63

y the way shi there iss no JD other of than Schikerling  ever menioed your excuse that it was B-J Dixon - note the hi-finated name of Dixon - is a total lie as per normal about your test story about  Schikckerling.

I tried to  finmd the team that you mnioned Serfontein was supposd to be on the bench and could not did it.     Why was their no report that Serfonein wa srelacing De Villiers in the emdia at the time - s evn if your tale i true - why did De A lende to play in evcery match after the first game  - the Japan  Disaster and there was no mention f Serontei for the rest of the season/   .     

I have nohing to apoogize for - you lied about Schickerling repeatedly so you went from being a liar - you became a multiple liar.  .   

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 Nov 2024, 18:00
#64
01 Nov 2024, 18:00#64

You really are clueless:

7 October 2015Olympic Stadium, LondonWorld Cup Pool MatchSouth Africa64USA0Captain: Fourie du PreezReferee: Pascal Gauzère (France)Coach: Heyneke MeyerAttendance: 54,658Team - Combined caps: 623 (starting 15)PositionPlayerProvinceAgePrev TestsScoringLoose-head PropTendai MtawariraSharks3071 HookerBismarck du PlessisSharks31751 tryTight-head PropFrans MalherbeWP248 LockEben EtzebethWP2340 LockLood de JagerCheetahs2215 FlankFrancois LouwBath30392 triesFlankSchalk (jnr) BurgerSuntory3282 EighthmanDuane VermeulenWP2931 Scrumhalf (C)Fourie du PreezSuntory3373 FlyhalfHandré PollardBlue Bulls21164 conversionsLeft WingLwazi MvovoSharks29141 tryInside CentreDamian de AllendeWP2391 tryOutside CentreJesse KrielBlue Bulls2171 tryRight WingBryan HabanaToulon321133 triesFull BackWillie le RouxCheetahs2630 ReserveJan SerfonteinBlue Bulls2222 ReserveWillem AlbertsSharks3134 ReserveTrevor NyakaneBlue Bulls2619 ReserveSchalk BritsSaracens349 ReserveMorné SteynFrancais31593 conversionsReserveCoenie OosthuizenCheetahs2622 ReserveRudy PaigeBlue Bulls260

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
01 Nov 2024, 18:40
#65
01 Nov 2024, 18:40#65

I thabk you for the above - but that is not the latest 

If he was recalled hemade buger all tothe team and De A llende had to start in 6 matches in a row .   So he was on the ebnch and did he actually play.   \

The above is a nce diversion the difference i called ou to be your normal self by lying about Schickerling ad every time yu hhad a diernct story.    Finally homesty is the best policy, s try ad change your disgusting behavior.         

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
01 Nov 2024, 19:11
#66
01 Nov 2024, 19:11#66

The issue isn’t whether he played or was on the bench…he was there at the WC ready to play. You said that was not allowed. Stop digging, just admit that as usual I was right and you were wrong.

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AJHPro3,183 posts
01 Nov 2024, 19:34
#67
01 Nov 2024, 19:34#67

Well I for one was thrilled to see Pollard eventually get the call to join the Springboks in the RWC.

If he was not called up what do you Rugby WC followers think would have happened to the Boks?

The long kicks Pollard converted in the games he participated in resulted in a win by a single point.

Now we all know the Elton L would never ever have made those kicks so hats off to POLLARD and ERASMUS.


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
02 Nov 2024, 11:40
#68
02 Nov 2024, 11:40#68

Poor Mozzietard and Mampara Power are so very bitter about our great Bok coach RassiecEtasmus

They tried hard to make a name for themselves by relentlessly criticizing Rassie so they could show they knew better. Unfortunately for these two bone heads Rassie just kept wining huge matches and series.

Du Toit proved himself to be an all time great and Allende a very useful center.

Have their long snouts rubbed in the dirt again and again was a painful experience for these two confused loons. Their egoes suffered immense damage and their rage grew proportionally. 

Poor mampara is becoming as unhinged as the unfortunate Doos. Mozzietard is clearly very rattled as he battles to find anything at all against Rassie. 

Face facts, coaches, players the public and the press acknowledge Rassie is a great coach. But dont expect these too buffoons to have the honestly to admit they are wrong. They don't have the integrity of even a Rooitwit to admit they were wrong! Hahshahahaha

Their hope is at some point Rassie will fail and they will then argue Rassie's amazing success was due to luck, weak opposition, we suddenly have the greatest players ever etc etc etc etc. We did so well despite Rassie. 

So guys you can expect to have to put up with their drivel indefinitely and will enjoy many a laugh at the expense of these loons! 




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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Nov 2024, 14:35
#69
02 Nov 2024, 14:35#69
Oh dear….this is the surest election sign yet. HasBeen who guaranteed a Trump victory is not out there beating the Trump drum. Instead he is back in the Rugby section talking up the second ranked team. What’s your take today HasBeen, still think you have election iced or have you given up?
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
02 Nov 2024, 16:53
#70
02 Nov 2024, 16:53#70

Mozzietard from what the polls are showing it looks like a great Trump win. 

However on X, various websites, You Tube the instances of demonrat fraud keep rolling in. 

Trump looks stronger than he ever has. In addition the NEW RNC under MAGA control is actually fighting voter fraud unlike last time. They are win ing cases in court. 

So Demonrats efforts to win by cheating will be harder. 

Since I know how much cheating went on in 2020 and what the Demonrats are trying in 2024 it's all a question of how many Illegal votes can the Demonrats get away with. Frankly I don't know. 

I see Arizona said it would tale 10 to 13 days to count the votes!!! The other battle ground states say results will take days.

Some good news from Georgia, if true, is SOS Rappensperger say Their results will be out that evening barring some 10, 000 overseas votes. 

Great to see the Liz Cheney hoax crashing and burning. What a disgraceful war mongering family they are. The Uniparty Globalist Liz is now supporting Harris. It's great when these snakes show their true colour's. 

I have so much to share on this board but my time is better spent lightening American  voters. 

The truth is Trump has defeated Harris. Can he win so big it's too big to Rig. 

I won't be happy until the final result is known. Then the GOP will I susoect need to deal with Marc Elias, BLM and of course ANTIFA riots.

Bye the way don't lie and say I quaranteed a Trump victory. My stance has been consistent with what I have written above. 

Tty posting a few posts with no lies. It would be good for your soul. 


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Nov 2024, 18:46
#71
02 Nov 2024, 18:46#71

Hahaha….yes you are right, you are now raising election fraud more and more. I wonder why that is.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Nov 2024, 04:39
#72
04 Nov 2024, 04:39#72

Beeno - we know Moozart is a rugby liar - bu t why did  y ou ost t  is hread under rugby and not under Beeno's trumpet.  This si where the problems is,      

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Nov 2024, 05:03
#73
04 Nov 2024, 05:03#73
Mozart
Stop talking shit all te time - first of all you lied about Schirkerling  and twisted like a snake to get out of your lies .    Then you lied about the final as well.   The players who played a 60% role in that test were the players who forced the AB's to concede convertable penalties  and the player you hated since 2013 - namely Pieter-Stef du Toit - the MOM in the final.    He was the player that set he example for oher players to follow.     
You were so easy to deal with when it came to rugby becausse you lied all the time about rugby player performnces especially when it came to certain players.   The Matfield case in 2014 and 2015 was part of the reason why the Springboks  that year lost against Japan,i the Round Robin stage and against the AB's in the semi.    It must be terible for you when your lies are exposed regularly    
So lets accept it - you  are never to be believed when it comes to rugby issues -especially since you hae Erasmus as well.              .    .       
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Nov 2024, 05:17
#74
04 Nov 2024, 05:17#74

Actually this string was about Pollard and by extension his non selection for the World Cup….you were unable to follow the argument about Snickerling on another thread. Go there if you want to try and prove your point again. The other stuff has been fact checked and debunked many times….just the ramblings of an old fool.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Nov 2024, 09:29
#75
04 Nov 2024, 09:29#75

Listen doos 

I ried t mve away from the repertitive garbage ou keep onm about the past  - which ymou have been spouting  a thusand times on site.   Pollard was dealing with the present scenaario and what Erasmus is about - and you went back to the 2023 RWC - which had zero to do wih wat Pollrd said about Erasmus as a coach,   That has zero to do with what is happening at presssent and your repetitive garbage was not applicable.to thepreseent thread and yu tried o uen it around.

Trying to get away from your BS - I wrote a thread dealing with poenmial futue selections and you then lied about Schickserling being a failure on test level, and then your twisting started - you claimed you never said what I wrote and came up wi a new statement that what you saw of him playing.   I then quoted your statement on Schickerling after you denied what you wriote and came up with a new Twist,    The new sentense sarted wih If - which was not in your original statement.

When did you see Schickerling playin in matches and when were the matches played,    .

So forget about your snake like ehaviour in this case and try and be honest for a change.                

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Nov 2024, 15:05
#76
04 Nov 2024, 15:05#76
The issue regards Pollard  and Harrassmiss is how he stupidly left him out of the WC squad. His defenders then said if Pollard was picked injured he couldn’t be subbed….as if that mattered when you can pick 4 scrumhalves.
 I then proved that was wrong and gave examples. You then pointed to JDV not being subbed in 2015….which I totally blew up. Including your pathetic last attempt claiming Serfontein never played….which was wrong as well.
Your Schickerling mistake was on another thread….go there if you want further schooling.
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