Ponderous Boks Scrape By

It was another ugly performance where a few Boks were difference makers. Against another ravaged Welsh side, the world cup holders looked painfully ordinary. Their most dangerous period coming when the Welsh were struggling under the high ball. Once the Welsh shored things up in that facet of play, they looked solid and were by some margin the better team ball in hand. The Bok's big carriers were consistently going sideways in contact, aside from Frans, Etzebeth and Kwagga. There were some moments where play broke down and the Boks had ample space to run into. And that's the problem, they needed freely given space. The and tackling in the first twenty-five minutes put pressure on the Welsh at the breakdown, but they got better as the game went on. The Boks looked structureless, with an overly simplistic approach that looked scrappy: Big men trying to exert raw strength in a very raw way. Without a kick of some description, the Boks were rudderless. 

Positive Contributors: 

1. Smith
   
2. Steyn
3. Etzebeth
4. Reinach
5. Am

1. de Jager
2. Nche
3. Damian
4. Nyakane
5. H Jantjies

I need to stop posting so late! 

Mapimpi, like Pollard, is going backwards. This is a rock-solid player for the Sharks, and initially for the Boks, who is deteriorating. That's simply unacceptable. It's like José has manipulated these players into accepting mediocrity. Like Pollard said, "We don't care what you think". Well, it isn't working buddy. Our best players are getting worse under José, not better. Willie is another example. We have the likes of Frans straining to get something going. Pause during moments where Frans makes those massive carries, what's happening around him? Our players are static and just watch him. They don't offer themselves up as potential targets. I go back to the seemingly innocuous high ball Sanchez fielded against us in the first test. It was in their half. Sanchez gets the ball advances a little, but their fullback, Carreras, immediately gets into position on his inside and gets between two defenders. Sanchez chose to dummy and beat us on the outside (which nearly resulted in a try but for a dropped ball), but it's the level of thinking. We are a very passive team, and José is putting the fate of the team in the hands of a very passive collection of players. Of our players, who can say is proactive? Marx, Frans, Kwagga, Mostert, Etzebeth, Faf, Reinach, Am. That's about it. As much as we have depth at front row, they basically amount to dumb, clumsy muscle. Their strength is more their numbers and that we can basically field the same quality in the second half, keeping us fresh. We also aren't very fit. 

Go watch some of the earlier 2018 tests, and look at how our players looked. They looked fitter and sharper overall. José has obliterated this team. We are seeing a drop in standards post-Covid, which has been advantageous. But teams are going to get better. Already the high ball is not the weapon it was during the Lions series. We are being left behind. 

Back to number 1 in the world. The Boks do enough to win games. 

Sure, they could be more expansive, but SA teams have never been that expansive in the professional era with bigger inside backs. 

Alister Coetzee tried a running game- but it failed because it was not of test standard. The defense also got worse while doing it.   

Coetzee's problem was that his assertive style exposed our weak defenders more. Josè went the opposite direction to conceal those vulnerabilities. We still see the same lapses. Also turnovers. Turnovers killed Coetzee, but his 2017 still stands as better than 2018 and his production is better than any Josè season.

Ask yourself this: If we were ranked on the basis on this season alone, where would we be? 6th? 5th? Those double ranking points in the world cup are the only thing keeping the Boks afloat in the rankings. In terms of form, we can't be higher than 5th.

This team isn't anywhere near to being best in the world. 

Oh, and Chabs, I coined the terms "Twizzle Dee" and "Dizzle Dum" for you and Lügnerin when you were defending the morality of his exposed lies. We're seeing a trend here of the Clueless Klub copying me. Get an original line of thought. Ende.

Nobody bar you are clueless - you cannot even add up and divide properly.   So lets look at the record of the Springboks against the All Blacks in respect of the three coaches:

Meyer                       -     12 games      -      1 win       -     11 losses

Coetzee                        -   4  games      -       0  win      -       4 losses

Erasmus/Nienabker     -    6 games      -        2 wins     -       3 losses    -   1  draw

So shitbrain thinks that Coetzee's record against the AB\'s  were better than 1 loss 1 win by Erasmus  in 2018  was worse than the 2 losses  recorded by  Coetzee in 2017.    Wonder about how even an idiot can come up with that - but the imbecile somehow can.     

The All Blacks of 2012 to 2015 were far stronger than the All Blacks of 2018 to 2021. 

The 2016 and 2017 All Blacks were the last time the All Blacks were solid.

If you are going to do comparisons do it properly.

When was the last time the Boks out-produced the All Blacks? 

Kindergarten Imbecile.   

I do look at results and actual performances of players  - you do not know what performances entailed.    In any event the AB's were very strong as you said in 2011 to 2014 and henm start having problems with replacement of players.   The Springboks on the other hand - due to ridiculous selections and atrocious coaching was very weak in the period 2012 to  2017 and that is the end of the story.

When you said players were weak - look at the match again and you will find that you are talking shit since your assessments are based on prejudicial  BS - nothing else.             

The Boks were consistently the second-best team in the world under Meyer. He achieved this without inheriting a spine to the team. The only time since 2004 that the Boks out-produced the All Blacks was 2013 you dolt! They've never come close to that since. In fact, this year's RC saw the Boks log inferior stats for most statistical categories compared to 2015's abridged RC. Let that sink in. How many more times do we have to go over the same old facts? Over and over and over again, you never learn. You seem incapable of learning. 

Hey Org didn't Steph du Toit have a terrible game! 

Talk about a pre-meditated interpretation of a game - a player gets a review, but they were not even on the pitch. 

So all that "objective" analysis was just an exercise of self-delusion...

I also thought Victor Matfield had a good game yesterday. Every game Matfield ha(s) for the Boks was good, and yesterday was no different. 

Not so fast Sitzsack. Solly and Ty bs were not on the bench, sadly. 

Pre-meditated? Shall we dissect the game Shark? Which part of my assessment of our performance do you disagree with? We can start at the basics. I know you have great difficulty with the technical aspects of the game after you fell for the "Schalk at flyhalf" nonsense.

Mpower this terrible teams has won an awful lot. Maybe what you think is ugly rugby is pretty effective if results mean anything.

Boks have shown they can play attacking rugby.

Don't be led astray by the org who assesses players who are not even on the field. Bwahahahahahahahahaha 

"Ugly Rugby" is just a new stick to beat Rassie's Bokke...

With the amount of good ball our backs are getting we should seeing huge productivity from our centres. We get a clean break every 10 games from Dud and the occasional clever follow up play by Am. Depressing!

Watching Jantjies and Reinach still launching box kick after box kick, without Faf’s guile which at least makes it a skill…..was positively nauseating.

These are tough days for Bok haters!  Joyless win. Says it all. 

Who'd have thought scraping past a patchwork Welsh side would have eveyone giving each other high fives. I remember when beating strong Welsh sides wasn't good enough. I remember sweeping the northern hemisphere consecutive seasons, with authority wasn't good enough. Minus those double ranking points against very weak opponents in the world cup, we are back in 5th. It appears to be that many Saffers really are this gullible. I said the same thing under Snor, but they didn't want to hear it then either. Saffers are the little man who wants to be the big boss who is loved by all. Any whiff of acceptance or status and they go off the rails. This has been the hardest Bok side to watch in all my life. I can't stomach any more video analysis sessions. Never before in my life. It's hideous and backward. This may be the pinnacle of rugby for you, but I know that better is out there. The Josè era has had so few high points dressed up with a several tests that flatter a mess of tenure. This is not the best team in the world and we've never ever looked like being that team under Josè. 

Another cerebral contribution by Peeper. Say Peeper was your binge last night to celebrate the Bok win or to commiserate for the rickets infested Wallie loss?

Cry Mozart and Kindergarten Imbecile  - you have both been in mourning the past three years and  that shows massive ignorance and total BS the two spread on site.   

You've been in mourning since Jake White till 2017. You still harp on about it to this day! 

Mpower the object is to win the game which our number ranking, for some time now, shows we do often.

As for the wee abs I was happy with our win last time we met them.

I watched the highlights hoping to see how much more accomplished the Welsh backs were. Nothing I saw indicated they were any better on attack.  Actually when we played the wee abs We were just as good on attack as them.

Now ask yourselves why did the Welsh not close the roof. 

Sorry us real Bok supporters rejoice at the win and leave fake Bok supporters to whinge and wine away as they have been doing ever since Rassie too over.

What a brilliant maul that led to the Bok try. Welsh were demolished.

But some oaks here can only appreciate dainty kiwi ballerina moves.  The physical side of the game is not for them. Winning by what they call brute force (Actually involves great skill as well) is a no no.  The Boks are to rough they wail. 

Hahahahahahahhahahahahaha 

5 wins against top 5 opposition in 37 tests. Explain this Sizsack. Explain why we are bottom of the pile for production in everything we compete in. Over 65% of World Cup production came against Canada. We were ranked 5th (dangerously close to 6th) after losing the World Cup opener. double ranking points against minnows, an injury-hit Welsh side inflated the rankings. I have never agreed with double ranking points, which currently props us up, for the time being! This team is not the best team in the world Sitzsack. No fan enjoys watching their team being outclassed and hanging on desperately for lopsided penalty calls with a wonky kicking game hoping for knock-ons. You don't have low standards, for you don't have any standards at all. We are playing badly and we are nowhere close to being the best in the world. We're about 5th, sometimes 6th in reality. That's where José will take a team. Alarmingly, Krutch seems to be losing his touch on defence. That's the whole spine of the José game. If his submissive pal doesn't get the job done doing the real coaching, he is in major trouble.