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Posse closing on All Blacks; By Mick Cleary; NZ Herald

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Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
03 Dec 2014, 20:49
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03 Dec 2014, 20:49#1
English writer says fast-improving rivals have the champs’ scent as Cup approachesEngland pushed the All Blacks to the limit at Twickenham resulting in a penalty try. Picture / Getty Images

The month-long fest of test rugby began with New Zealand appearing at Soldier Field in Chicago, an aptly named venue as the All Blacks are going to find themselves under constant fire between now and the Rugby World Cup knockout stages in October.

They have lost two matches in the three years since the last tournament, they are the longest-ranked No 1 side in the world, they have seen off all-comers in the Rugby Championship and Europe, yet have returned home with no assurances that they will become the first side to retain a World Cup. Quite the opposite. Even though they are the team to beat, and despite the acclaim and garlands, there is a growing sense that the posse is closing in on them.

Here is why. The Springboks have no inferiority hang-ups when it comes to playing New Zealand, and are the only side to topple them this year. Australia have been riven by internal discord, forced to change coaches at this late juncture, yet have the most tantalisingly potent backline in world rugby, eclipsing even the Kiwis. They will only get better under Michael Cheika.

Ireland have shaken off their chokers tag against the Southern Hemisphere with two notable wins, with the scheming, cerebral influence of coach Joe Schmidt clear to see, while Wales have also put an end to the hex. Scotland are stirring and even France are showing signs of no longer being the basket case of European rugby.

And England? Well, at long last, they may have come to realise that they are never going to be the All Blacks, so why bother trying? Be England. Play hardcore rugby. Stick the ball in front of the forwards. Maul the life out of the opposition. Kick well, chase hard and scrum the living daylights out of weaker packs. It is not a formula that will entice the floating voter. But it is one that will delight England diehards. And rightly so. They shunted New Zealand backwards for a penalty try at Twickenham.

The so-called Twickenham factor did not come into play, with both New Zealand and South Africa getting away with victories, three-point wins that were more comprehensive on the field than they were on the scoreboard. England have to get the most out of the backdrop by the simple matter of producing on the pitch. The off-field malarkey, the connection with the shirt, the summoning of the heritage, is all very well. But it has to be backed up by substance and cleverness. It has taken this group of players a month to appreciate that. The management, too.

Even though they point out that the World Cup will look after itself, that victory against Australia was an end in itself and not a portent, there was a real sense that the tournament, in all its implications and manifestations, hung heavy.

England, for all their fretting and faffing, are in reasonable shape. Just as long as they stick to the script against the Wallabies, that is. Their pack is as good as there is in the world, and can only be strengthened in terms of its depth by the return from injury of the seven missing Lions, not to forget Wasps' Joe Launchbury either.

It was clear from the autumn programme that the Southern Hemisphere sides are fitter, or are more used to high-tempo rugby. New Zealand are masters of the late charge, as Wales found to their heart-wrenching cost in Cardiff. This differential will also diminish.

The All Blacks have never slept easily where rugby is concerned. They take nothing for granted. They know only too well what is stirring out there. The pursuing pack have got their scent.

Daily Telegraph UK

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Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
03 Dec 2014, 20:54
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03 Dec 2014, 20:54#2
 Are the pack closing? Looks like they are given the number of close wins the ABs have had recently or is it simply that they are not showing their hand & have tried out all of their squad? For me it is the lat ter.
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WardadPro6,663 posts
04 Dec 2014, 09:18
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04 Dec 2014, 09:18#3
 The pack have  been closing since 18 something-or-other ....now the natural progression of English rugby journalism is complete .1-"The Harker ,wont someone please think of the Harker !''2-''English team has self belief especially at Fortress Twickers''3-" England to play without key players !''4-''Maccaw cheats !!!''5-''All Blacks cheat !''6-''Referee cheats! ''7-''England B team brave in near win at British stadium!! ''8-" England will take away and absorb lessons from brave loss to evil All Blacks !''then back to 1,rinse ,repeat ...Now sniff this ......
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
04 Dec 2014, 09:37
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04 Dec 2014, 09:37#4
 kbbs you will recall my seminal piece about the writing on the wall. Everyone including this journalist know the wee abs would have been soundly whipped a number of times apart from RAWs. I would not be surprised if this guy Mick first got this notion from reading me!

Always pay close attention to what Beeno says - the one who knows!
Could someone pease administer warped DUD's medication to him. He seems more unhinged than usual!! Due probably to parade ground stress syndrome! 
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
04 Dec 2014, 09:46
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04 Dec 2014, 09:46#5
In summary kbbs so please note: there is a growing sense that the posse is closing in on them.
Australia have been riven by internal discord, forced to change coaches at this late juncture, yet have the most tantalisingly potent backline in world rugby, eclipsing even the Kiwis. They will only get better under Michael Cheika. (As notedby Beeno!)

Be England. Play hardcore rugby. Stick the ball in front of the forwards. Maul the life out of the opposition. Kick well, chase hard and scrum the living daylights out of weaker packs. It is not a formula that will entice the floating voter. But it is one that will delight England diehards. And rightly so. They shunted New Zealand backwards for a penalty try at Twickenham.(As noted by Beeno)

Their pack (ENGLAND) is as good as there is in the world, and can only be strengthened in terms of its depth by the return from injury of the seven missing Lions, not to forget Wasps' Joe Launchbury either. (As noted by Beeno)

TAlking about fitmness Mick notes - This differential will also diminish.
The question to ask is- are the wee abs really RWC contenders? 
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moolaaPro2,380 posts
04 Dec 2014, 11:16
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04 Dec 2014, 11:16#6
"The Springboks have no inferiority hang-ups when it comes to playing NZ". Now that is funny when you look at the last 10 matches between them!The more other teams go on about this just reinforces that the opposite is true...Nice try Mick!!  
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ABasquefanPro2,549 posts
04 Dec 2014, 15:47
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04 Dec 2014, 15:47#7
 Some very obvious things in this article:

"yet have returned home with no assurances that they will become the first side to retain a World Cup."

No team will never assure a win in the RWC before playing it. Never. No matter if is the first time or the second in a row. It's impossible to assure this in any tournament but a lot more if it's a knock-out tournament.
Having said this, the current AB side has got to be the nearest a team can be from it. They are the only settled team, probably Ireland could have obtained it but I would wait till the 6N to confirm it.
The other teams have problems in one part or other of the team (except the boks who have problems all over the squad) and haven't achieved to have a settled team.

Mr. Been,
you are so hilarious......... after the horrrendous EOYT the boks have had, the horrible game they have shown all over their lines and the clueless coach thay've got at the helm, I wouldn't be provoking other teams' fans with the usual BS that only you can bring to the table.

P.D. : the penalty try was a gift from Nigel Owens. The English front row popped up first and the scrum went sideway more than towards the AB' try-line.
Untill then the AB were far superior in all the aspects of the game.



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