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Proteas wilt against MJ

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Sept 2014, 03:13
#1
03 Sept 2014, 03:13#1

The Proteas lost this game a number of times. Firstly with some truly amateurish bowling to Marsh down the stretch. But it was a viable target on an easy wicket. Then our batsmen folded.


De Kock allowed himself to be rattled by a Johnson throw at his stumps, attempting a silly shot before his eye was in. Amla and de Villiers failed for once....putting pressure on Duminy and Miller. And they flopped again. Duminy is great when things are good, Miller was just over awed by MJ.


And the rest was history. We can't expect Amla, de Villiers and Faff to win all the games against top opponents. Can we afford a young gun like Miller who fails so often. If we are playing Duminy, can we really afford two other spinners?


This was a chance to establish some momentum against Oz and we didn't seem totally serious.

CL
ClaydogClub Pro691 posts
03 Sept 2014, 04:37
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03 Sept 2014, 04:37#2
 Moz the whole series has been a hard one to fathom. No consistency in performance really from any team. Good to see Zim get a win albeit at Oz expense. Still the Proteas have looked pretty good really and there would seem to be plenty to be optimistic about.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Sept 2014, 04:49
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03 Sept 2014, 04:49#3
 Ah Claymutt, as an Aussie cricket fan you might imagine we are optimistic...but how can you  be optimistic about a team that lost a CWC in the last over with both batsmen at one end of the pitch. And only ended up playing the  Aussies  because one of our greatest fielders dropped the ball trying to instantly throw it aloft after making a catch.That failed in another CWC because our mathematicians miscalculated the Lewis/Duckworth overs formula. We are sadly prone to shocking goofs....the match today was still flickering , when Faff after a brilliant innings steps on his own stumps.
Nope I have this pesky feeling that we needed to conclude matters today.
PA
PakieCaptain17,321 posts
03 Sept 2014, 07:43
#4
03 Sept 2014, 07:43#4
I don't know what Miller is doing in the side. If you compare the shot he played to Johnson with the one that Morne Morkel played on his dismissal, it is the same shot. Only difference is one is from a tail-ender, the other from a guy who is supposed to be one of our main strike batsmen. As far as I am concerned he is nothing but hype at this level, and he is definitely not a fighter. He simply capitulated to Johnson when we needed someone to take a stand.

But yes, we basically have a top 4. From then on it's a gamble. That doesn't bode well.
CL
ClaydogClub Pro691 posts
03 Sept 2014, 08:48
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03 Sept 2014, 08:48#5
Moz, I always look on the bright side. Faffs innings was very good and for a slight moment I felt a tinge of regret when he stepped back on his stumps but I gathered myself and carried on supporting the Aussies. And I don't know what the general consensus is but I thought Gibbs controlled that catch.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Sept 2014, 08:58
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03 Sept 2014, 08:58#6
 Mozart
The Proteas came out of a groove of poor ODI's in 2011 up to and early 2013 and is at least showing signs of life.   Under adverse conditions they have won 7 of the last 9 ODI's they played in  - continueing a similar trend as was in evidence since last year in November.   
There is a lot of pressure on De Kock in particular.   Amla is a top batter - but he is a very slow starter and the required  run rate must basically be maintained by De Kock.  That leads to him at times playing ijudicious shots like he did yesterday.   
There has been problems in the main with the middle order though.  If Amla. Se Kock and Du Plessis do well and stay for a longish time in games - thus relieving the pressure on De Villiers. Miller and DUminy - everything is fine.   If they go out early - like happened yesterday - the middle order goes bananas.   In the present series so  far De Villers had one top score - the rest were all mediocre.   Miller has been mediocre for a long time now and never really showed anything.  
I think the Proteas  has a ten times better chance to win the present series on Saturday than the Springboks have of beating the Wallabies.  
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 Sept 2014, 09:08
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03 Sept 2014, 09:08#7
 Miller fails so often - wow I can see you are abreast with the cricket - about as close as you are with your rugby calls.
Averaging 30 in ODI s batting at 6 when his job is to get a move on with not many overs in hand and where protecting your wicket is hardly a priority  looks pretty impressive to me.
Miller is a class act - give it up mozzie
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Sept 2014, 09:35
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03 Sept 2014, 09:35#8
 Dave
You misunderstood what I wrote.   I think the same of Miller as you do - but he did not produce the goods in the recent series.   Miller often enough comes in so late in games - he cannot get his eye in and has to bash balls from the start - did not work out recently.   
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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
03 Sept 2014, 10:15
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03 Sept 2014, 10:15#9
Well Dave, Miller managed one fifty in his last 14 completed innings. Balancing that out are 6 single figures, 2 ducks, 2 teens, 2 thirties and a fourty. This guy is average and will fade into ODI obscurity. Johnson blew him away as easily as he blew away Morkel, who can't bat at all. Even the average McLaren fought harder.
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
03 Sept 2014, 10:33
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03 Sept 2014, 10:33#10

Saffex

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September 03, 2014, 09:08:19  Miller fails so often - wow I can see you are abreast with the cricket - about as close as you are with your rugby calls.
Averaging 30 in ODI s batting at 6 when his job is to get a move on with not many overs in hand and where protecting your wicket is hardly a priority  looks pretty impressive to me.
Miller is a class act - give it up mozzie
Really?

Bat Opposition  Ground    Match Date  Scorecard
3    Australia     Harare    2 Sep 2014   ODI # 3522
0    Zimbabwe   Harare   29 Aug 2014   ODI # 3518
-     Australia     Harare  27 Aug 2014   ODI # 3516(Did not bat)
13* Zimbabwe Bulawayo 21 Aug 2014   ODI # 3510
45   Zimbabwe Bulawayo 19 Aug 2014   ODI # 3508
-  Zimbabwe    Bulawayo 17 Aug 2014   ODI # 3507(Did not bat)
4*  Sri Lanka Hambantota 12 Jul 2014    ODI # 3502
4    Sri Lanka     Pallekele   9 Jul 2014     ODI # 3501
36*Sri Lanka     Colombo    6 Jul 2014     ODI # 3500
3  SL Pres. XI     Moratuwa     3 Jul 2014     Other OD


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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 Sept 2014, 10:41
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03 Sept 2014, 10:41#11

Mike I was not talking about you, I was talking about Moz

 

 

Pakie may I suggest you refrain from commenting on cricket for you clearly do not know what the hell you are talking about. Given where he bats, averaging 30 is pretty impressive regardless of how many he made in his last 15......what bullshit.

 

 

Form is temporary, class permanent........having watched Miller a few times now, there is no doubting his pedigree.......he has a great technique and I want to see him transfer that potential to the longer format of the game.

 

Yes Vlagshit really you ignorant prick - look no further than his average. You and cricket and rugby just don't mix.......you are clueless  

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
03 Sept 2014, 10:54
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03 Sept 2014, 10:54#12
You may suggest Dave, just don't expect me to humour you.

Average means zip when you capitulate when your team needs you. Like yesterday. All these excuses about when he comes in to bat. Yesterday he was offered more than half an innings to set himself and play a knock of substance. Instead he opens his wickets to Johnson, hanging out a lazy bat. Never even tried. Journeyman going nowhere.
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
03 Sept 2014, 11:20
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03 Sept 2014, 11:20#13
 Saffex

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September 03, 2014, 10:41:44

Mike I was not talking about you, I was talking about Moz

 

 

Pakie may I suggest you refrain from commenting on cricket for you clearly do not know what the hell you are talking about. Given where he bats, averaging 30 is pretty impressive regardless of how many he made in his last 15......what bull[removed].

 

 

Form is temporary, class permanent........having watched Miller a few times now, there is no doubting his pedigree.......he has a great technique and I want to see him transfer that potential to the longer format of the game.

 

Yes Vlag[removed] really you ignorant [removed] - look no further than his average. You and cricket and rugby just don't mix.......you are clueless 



Talking about clueless. Eight innings. Two decent score. One just above 10 and five duds, including one duck?

You are the clueless one here. Want to see his scores since 2011? There you go:


38 Innings.
4 X Ducks
5 X 50s
4 Between 30 and 50
Only 4 between 20 and 30
21 Of them below 20. Thirteen of those in single figures.

To his credit, six of his low scores were * scores.


CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Sept 2014, 11:50
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03 Sept 2014, 11:50#14
 Ceradyne
I think the problem up to middle 2013 used to be with our top order batters.   I do think Smith already by 2011 has lost his hand-eye co-ordination to a substantial extent and Kallis suffered the same fate.   Good enough for tests - but really not for ODI's.   That put some serious pressure on the middle order batters in ODI's.   Fact is whe did make runs it was at a very slow run rate.
That problem was to a large extent eliminated with the selections of De Kock and Faf du Plessis, but is still in evidence in the case of Amla.  Te latter scores big runs but his rpo rate early in his innings is painfully slow.   - often around 3 rpo.   That puts pressure on De Kock to score at a run a ball or even faster so as to set the write pace or keep up to the required run rate.   Howevr, in general De Kock scores big runs - he has a tendency to make rash shots like the one he got him out yesterday -but the porblem is less than it used to be.   
The problem is that Miller really get very little batting opportunities in ODI's and when he does come in it is normally in the last four or five overs where he must hit out from ball one - no chance to get his eye in.  I think he generally scores more if he get a bit of a chance to get going - so that accounts for most of his low scores. 
I think Miller is a class act and has no problem with his selection in the team.   Probably one of the best fielders in the game in any event.       
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 Sept 2014, 12:21
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03 Sept 2014, 12:21#15

Pakie you are fucking clueless.....with Vlagshit its a given

 

Averaging 30 batting at 6 in ODI's is damn good - FACT. Current form is not the measure of a player, he proved his class some time ago

 

You twits don't have a clue what you are talking about

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
03 Sept 2014, 13:16
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03 Sept 2014, 13:16#16
@ou Maaikie,

I have no issue either but he has not quite been on song and he is definitely not the "miracle" that our Jim Morrison idol would like to believe. As I said, he is the clueless one. He might have been batting for a day in some or other peanut league but that is as far as it goes.

Unlike rugby where you have a lot of opinions and versions, as well as "stats", available that can be minipulated and "polished" to suit an agenda, it is much easier in cricket where you have detailed real stats available. I say real stats because it is more than just little strings containing the barest of data from ESPNScrum.


This is the reality of David Miller.

I have again taken his last 11 innings, and I haven't selected only these eleven matches at random. The matches prior to the last one on the list was from another series (against Pakistan) and I couldn't be bothered to go through the effort to add another series. I think what I have listed is sufficient to indicate what I am trying to say. Let me first list the matches:

ODI no. 3522 Australia
In at over no 22. Out in over no 25. Score - 3

ODI no. 3518 Zimbabwe
In at over no 26. Out in over no 26. Score - 0

ODI no. 3510 Zimbabwe
In at over no 24. Score - 13*

ODI no. 3508 Zimbabwe
In at over no 26. Out in over no 36. Score - 45

ODI no. 3518 Zimbabwe
In at over no 26. Out in over no 26. Score - 0

ODI no. 3502 Sri Lanka
In at over no 49. Out in over no 26. Score - 4*
(Amla and AB posted centuries)

ODI no. 3501 Sri Lanka
In at over no 20. Out in over no 22. Score - 4

ODI no. 3500 Sri Lanka
In at over no 42.  Score - 36*
(Amla posted 65, QDK 135, JPD 59 and AB 77)

ODI no. 3444 India
In at over no 37. Score - 56*

ODI no. 3443 India
In at over no 44. Out in over no 44. Score - 0
(De Kock and Amla posted centuries)

ODI no. 3442 India
In at over no 50. Score - 5*

You have said:

"The problem is that Miller really get very little batting opportunities in ODI's and when he does come in it is normally in the last four or five overs where he must hit out from ball one - no chance to get his eye in."

That is simply not quite accurate. As you can see, he normally comes in around somewhere between overs no 22 and 26. When he do come in later is when someone higher up in the order has posted big scores, as I have indicated. Those are normally also when he get his *scores. Coincidently, two of his recent three high scores where  posted when he came in at overs no 26, 42 and 37, respectively which, to me, is an indication the he probably do not really have an issue when coming in later in the innings.

As a matter of interest:

His troubles seems to be mostly in front of the wickets, since most of his dismissals are either from being caught and being bowled and the latter is quite high, IMO. His dismissals behind the wicket (stumped, or caught behind) are less than those in front, as can in the graph below.

In addition, his batting average may be fairly OK, it is a bit skew because of the odd high score from time to time. This is clear when you look at his "Manhattan" in the second image.




CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
03 Sept 2014, 13:18
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03 Sept 2014, 13:18#17
 OK. For some reason the images did not work. These are the links to the two images:

Graph of dismissals

Manhattan
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 Sept 2014, 14:05
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03 Sept 2014, 14:05#18

Vlagshit nice attempt at trying to be cricket clever but its pretty pathetic.....I'll keep it simple.......he averages 30 in ODI's, he bats at 6.....he does not often get a chance to build an innings.......how he gets out is of little consequence when looking at the shortened version of the game......the only time it becomes significant is in the longer version of the game.

 

Looking at his last few innings's there seems little issue given the format of the game.

 

So I will say this one more time, Miller is a class act and no not a miracle you childish twat.

 

As for being caught or bowled that makes sense when pushing for runs......I was bowled on 154 on Sunday in the last over having opened the innings......I was going for a big one!!

 

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
03 Sept 2014, 14:22
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03 Sept 2014, 14:22#19

Saffex

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September 03, 2014, 14:05:02

Vlag[removed] nice attempt at trying to be cricket clever but its pretty pathetic.....I'll keep it simple.......he averages 30 in ODI's, he bats at 6.....he does not often get a chance to build an innings.......how he gets out is of little consequence when looking at the shortened version of the game......the only time it becomes significant is in the longer version of the game.

 
No sh!t Sherlock? You are to useless to understand the info that I have provided, that is for sure. He normally comes in around halfway through the innings. How many overs do you want him to take to "get his eye in"? Ten.............. twenty? If he cannot build an innings off 20+ overs, he should perhaps think about packing his bat away. He blows hot and cold and his "Manhattan" proves it. It is not something that someone have dreamt up. It is there. Loud and clear.

He blows hot and cold. Look at his graph. He had three OK'ish innings and followed by a half century and a 33. Immediately after that he slumped to 6,6,0,9,27 and 11 before his next "high" of 59. That was followed by another slump of 11,14 and 15. Then he had a big one again with a 67 against Pakistan in Durban. That was followed by a 20, 0, 19 and 38 before his next big one of 56*. That was followed up by another customary drop to 14 and 22* before his next big one of 85* (his best), That was immediately followed by yet another slump, and that was a long one of 12 matches during which he only had three reasonably OK scores of 37, 34 and 22. The other 12 were bullsh!t.

Neee boet. Miller has just never been constantly good. He is not worth batting anything higher than six. Maybe at five at a push, but that is it for him. The idea that he do not get enough time to build an innings is wishful thinking. 




MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Sept 2014, 14:29
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03 Sept 2014, 14:29#20

Miller is a player you simply can't count on....a bit like Duminy. This type of bat will have big scores when the pressure is off and fold when the pressure is on.

 

 

Miller was a deer in the headlights yesterday when facing MJ.....frozen. You can keep him.

 

The kind of bat I like is Faf. Total guts. He plays above himself when the pressure is on. But I forget Dave, a little while back you were saying Faf shouldn't smell the team. Your facination with young chaps that look the part is not confined to rugby Dave. Your gullibility abounds.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 Sept 2014, 14:29
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03 Sept 2014, 14:29#21
Vlagshit....there is a difference between not understanding and not giving a shit.....anything that comes from you is not worth much attention.......I had a breeze over your pathetic attempt at cricket intelligence and countered it with the basics.....like he averages 30 in ODI's batting at 6......you don't need to know much more than that to conclude he is doing more than a handy enough job.......get it old man?  
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Sept 2014, 14:48
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03 Sept 2014, 14:48#22
Dave you were dead against Faf being selected....admit it. 
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 Sept 2014, 14:52
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03 Sept 2014, 14:52#23

Yeah I was not impressed with him given his suspect technique but he proved me wrong which I have conceded on a number of occasions.

 

Same can be said of Philander when he first appeared on the scene......I took him for a pie chucker.......he proved me wrong  

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Sept 2014, 14:57
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03 Sept 2014, 14:57#24
S o learn from the experience. 
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 Sept 2014, 15:05
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03 Sept 2014, 15:05#25
Nope Miller is a class act.....that is not going to change  
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
03 Sept 2014, 15:07
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03 Sept 2014, 15:07#26
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Saffex

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September 03, 2014, 14:29:50 Vlag[removed]....there is a difference between not understanding and not giving a [removed].....anything that comes from you is not worth much attention.......I had a breeze over your pathetic attempt at cricket intelligence and countered it with the basics.....like he averages 30 in ODI's batting at 6......you don't need to know much more than that to conclude he is doing more than a handy enough job.......get it old man? 
Translate to:

I had a breeze over your pathetic attempt at cricket intelligence and countered it with the basics..... account of David Miller's ODI performances and I have to admit that I have no idea about how to assess a player's performances and I do not have the faintest idea how to look at a cricket players' stats and I have no understanding of how it works either.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 Sept 2014, 15:30
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03 Sept 2014, 15:30#27
Poor old Vlagshit just cant take a beating  
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
03 Sept 2014, 16:04
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03 Sept 2014, 16:04#28
Safse-x benchmark for a rugby player:

Age: Under 24 - check
Hight: 2m+ - check
Weight: 110kg - check.
Well done mate. Here's your Bok jersey and if HM does not select you, he is a stupid fcking pr!ck who has now fcking idea how to select a Bok team.

Safse-x benchmark for a cricket batsman:

Age: Under 24 - check
Batting average: 30+ - check.
There you go mate. There's your cap. If the coach does not pick you, he is a stupid fcking pr!ck who has now fcking idea how to select a Protea team.

Easy peasy. Can't understand why it iis so difficult.

Here is something for you. Here is a player who has a higher batting average than Miller. Colin Ingram - 32.42. What about him? By your yardstick, he should be in the side ahead of Miller.

And then something else. You are p!ssing about Miller batting at six. Did you even know that his best average scoring is at no 7 while his worst batting average is at no 5? That blows your theory about him not having time to build an innings even more out of the water. The higher up he bats, in the order, the lower his averages become.

These are his batting averages in the different batting positions:

At no 5. Batting average - 14.67
At no 6. Batting average - 31.52
At no 7. Batting average - 36.75

How is that for basics?




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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 Sept 2014, 16:07
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03 Sept 2014, 16:07#29
You really are smarting aren't you Vlagshit......my heart bleeds  
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
03 Sept 2014, 16:28
#30
03 Sept 2014, 16:28#30
 Sorry I burst your bubble, mate. Pity you cannot keep up.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 Sept 2014, 16:51
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03 Sept 2014, 16:51#31

Burst my bubble....bwhaaahaaaaa

 

Get over it clown.......average of 30 at 6 in ODI's is spot on

 

Smarting  

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
03 Sept 2014, 16:55
#32
03 Sept 2014, 16:55#32
Yeah right. You should try and understand strike rates, run rates and averages. Shout if you need help.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 Sept 2014, 18:21
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03 Sept 2014, 18:21#33
My average is 77.4 this season......I understand it well. I also know without even looking at the stats that Miller will have a high strike rate  
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
03 Sept 2014, 18:33
#34
03 Sept 2014, 18:33#34
 As a matter of interest............. What league do you play in?

In any case, strike rate does not say that much in ODI's nowadays.

Miller has a higher strike rate than AB, Amla, JP Duminy and QDK. So what?
CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
04 Sept 2014, 10:34
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04 Sept 2014, 10:34#35
 Good morning Maaikie and Safese-x. Say Dave, have you decided what league you are playing in, or are you still busy searching on Google to find one?
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
04 Sept 2014, 10:58
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04 Sept 2014, 10:58#36
 Here's another one for you Dave. The cricket season has just about started, so how many league games could you have played? Two? Three?

Now that got me thinking.

You have given us two FACTS. A term that you are extremely fond of. The first is that you scored 154 last weekend. The second is that your average for the season is 77.4.

There are a few different scenarios here.

First we have to assume that you have played in more than one game, or else your average would have been 154. See where this is leading to?

If you have played in two games, and your average is 77.4? How much was did you score in the other game? I will leave you to work that one out.

If you have played in three games, which I doubt, and your average is 77.4 it should start to look a little bit better for you. Let me show you why I say so. It would mean, with your average at 77.4, your total for three games becomes 232. Now if you subtract your 154 from that, it leaves you with 78.2 which gives you an average of 36.2 for the other two games.

There are a few issues with the above though. The only way that you can have an average ending with .4 is if you have played in five, ten, fifteen, etc games (77.4X5=387, 77.4*10=774, 77.4*15=1161, etc). See what I mean? As I have said, the season just started and you could not have played in five games yet. So, either you are BS-ing about your averages or you are BS-ing about your score of 154.
AO
Admit OneClub Pro389 posts
04 Sept 2014, 11:46
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04 Sept 2014, 11:46#37
 

SKIPPER John Manning was philosophical after Mistley had missed out on a potential trip to Lord’s in the final of the Persimmon National Village Knock-Out competition.

“Despite the fact that we lost, it was a thoroughly enjoyable day – and a good night as well. They were a really lovely bunch of guys and they stayed around for a drink afterwards.

“Good luck to them in the semi-finals.”

His words of good cheer were directed at Sussex opponents Rottingdean, who secured a 13-run win at New Road in Sunday’s quarter-final contest, but they were tinged with disappointment, too.

“Unfortunately we didn’t really turn up for the second half. We were always in it but just didn’t bat well enough.”

The visitors, who turned up with a couple of coachloads of supporters to swell the crowd to 150+, had got off to a flyer as Najmus Jamil (40) and skipper Henry Ledden (30) put on 80 for the first wicket.

Manning (one for 19) and Paul Garwood (three for 25) then put the brake on as they bowled their 18 overs for just 44 runs.

Sam Shepherd hit a six and two fours in his 29 not out to lift the final 40-over total to 173 for eight.

“I thought to keep them down to that score was a pretty good effort,” said Manning.

The home team’s confidence was jolted as the top three of their order were all clean bowled and they slipped to 60 for five.

But then Manning was joined by Matt Bibby, who has proved to be a great finisher in earlier rounds. They added 58 and the run rate was down to a run-a-ball, before both were dismissed for 28.

Stuart Dove added 27, but then he ran himself out. The last couple of wickets fell with 13 runs needed and nine balls still to go.

“We were always in it until that last wicket fell,” said Manning.

He added that he announced on Saturday night that he has decided to stand down as Mistley’s Saturday captain next season, but he would like to continue in charge of the Village competition.

“It was our first time in the tournament and it was a great experience. The club benefited from it and I’d like to be firmly involved in it again next year.”

In Division One of the Marshall Hatchick Two Counties Championship the top four teams all recorded maximum point wins to leave the situation at the top of the table unchanged.

Wivenhoe remain seven points clear of Mildenhall, with Frinton and Copdock & OIs vainly hoping for the top two to slip up.

Woolpit travelled to Wivenhoe without the league’s leading scorer Andy Northcote, who was playing for Italy in the final of the ICC European Division One Twenty20 competition in Jersey.

Northcote top-scored with 38, but when he was out the Italians collapsed as they lost their last six wickets for just 16 runs to end up 83 all out.

Denmark were made to work hard for their win, but got home by six wickets.

At Wivenhoe, meanwhile, Olly Whiteman (45) and Joe Crame (36) did well for Woolpit to help them reach 161 all out. But Nathan Rabnott continued his good form with an unbeaten 74 to carry his team to a three-wicket win, despite Will Parker grabbing three for 43.

AJ Warrich picked up three early wickets for Mildenhall to reduce Abberton to 10 for three. Wickets continued to fall regularly and Abberton were bowled out for just 67, Warrich finishing with five for 23, Joe Reed three for five and James Holmes two for 18.

Richard Moxon was the only Abberton batsman to reach double figures, scoring 39.

In reply Tom Westley scored a quickfire 35 and Ben Shepperson finished the job off with 20 not out for an eight-wicket win with more than 50 overs remaining.

Rob Horrex scored 74 and Tim Milner claimed six for 41 as Lakenheath beat East Bergholt by 43 runs to remain clear at the top of Division Two. Easton are their closest rivals, adding a 37-run win over Braintree after 89 from Alan Barker and 50 from Richard Croney.

Worlington’s batsmen enjoyed the weekend, clocking up the top two team totals, the best individual score and the biggest win of the weekend between them.

Jimmy Watson led the way with 166 as Worlington’s First XI rattled up 321 for three at Stowmarket. Graham Ford backed him up with 118 and then the home team were bowled out for 180 for a 141-run win that improved their chances of taking the Division Three title.

Indeed, closest rivals Mildenhall II fell two points further adrift as they could only take 18 points from their 77-run win away to Bury II.

But Worlington II, who are top of Division Nine, had an even better win as they scored 370 for six, with Barney Bowens scoring 118 plus 85 from Jonno Peachey and 63 from Ian Roberts for a total of 370 for six against West Bergholt. When the visitors were put out for just 75 the margin of victory was an enormous 295 runs.

Brockley did not have such a good weekend – the First XI lost by one wicket to Elmstead Market in Division Two, and the Seconds were skittled for 64 to lose by nine wickets away to Coggeshall III in Division Eight. Elmstead’s Aiden O’Brien (17 not out) scored the four runs required when he was joined by last man Michael Burle.

Andrew McDonald had the best bowling figures of six for 21 for St Margarets II against Maldon III, just getting the better of Tom Pickles who claimed six for 22 for Coggeshall II against Clacton II.

Jack Lord scored his maiden century to lead Melton St Audry’s from 41 for four to beat Copford II by 86 runs in Division Six.

He hit 10 fours and five sixes in his 124 and added 184 for the fifth wicket with Matt Jackson (60).

Marshall Hatchick Two Counties Championship

Division One

Exning 107. *Frinton 111 for 1. Frinton (20) bt Exning (1) by 9 wkts.

Coggeshall 142 for 9 (R Jagger 48, A Stockton 20, R Singh 4 for 28, A Phillips 4 for 41). *Haverhill 126 (B Moran 39, D Poole 30, W Blackwell 6 for 30, R Lees 3 for 18). Coggeshall (20) bt Haverhill (6) by 16 runs.

*Maldon 99 (C Harris 23, A Nel 5 for 23). Copdock & OIs 102 for 2 (A Gravell 50no, A Nel 30no). Copdock (20) bt Maldon (1) by 8 wkts.

Abberton 67 (R Moxon 39, A Warraich 5 for 23, J Reed 3 for 5. *Mildenhall 69 for 2 (T Westley 35, B Shepperson 20). Mildenhall (20) bt Abberton (1) by 8 wkts.

Woolpit 161 (O Whiteman 45, N Crame 36, M Durrell 5 for 32, H Burnett 5 for 44). *Wivenhoe 162 for 7 (N Rabnott 74no, B Godleman 22, T Harwood 20, W Parker 3 for 43). Wivenhoe (20) bt Woolpit (6) by 3 wkts.

*Mistley 218. Ipswich 220 for 7. Ipswich (20) bt Mistley (8) by 3 wkts.

Division Two

*Brockley 111 (P Kearney 41, R Jones 28, D White 4 for 24, P Gates 3 for 19). Elmstead Grasshoppers 113 for 9 (D Sargeant 33, D White 23, D Sykes 5 for 40). Elmstead (20) bt Brockley (5) by 1 wkt.

*Easton 213 for 5 (A Barker 89, R Croney 50). Braintree 176 (B Stephens 32, C Leech 32, W Mitchell 4 for 58, T Bosher 3 for 28). Easton (20) bt Braintree (6) by 37 runs.

*Lakenheath 214 for 9 (Rob Horrex 74, M Reeve 39, Rich Horrex 25, J Willsher 4 for 56, N Philpot 4 for 70). East Bergholt 171 (D McGrath 65, N Foster 27, T Milner 6 for 41). Lakenheath (20) bt East Bergholt (7) by 43 runs.

*Witham 145 (J Suett 50, L Facey 31, R Green 21, J Barker 5 for 51). Ipswich & East Suffolk 149 for 8 (R Glassford 44, K Mildenhall 23, J Chick 3 for 20). IES (20) bt Witham (6) by 2 wkts.

*Dunmow 193 for 7. Brightlingsea 182. Dunmow (20) bt Brightlingsea (7) by 11 runs.

Hadleigh 208. *Woodbridge & OWs 177. Hadleigh (20) bt Woodbridge (9) by 31 runs.

Division Three

Clacton II 142 (L Kirk 62, D Fitzpatrick 36, T Pickles 6 for 22). *Coggeshall II 143 for 2 (M Hart 60no, A Robinson 48no). Coggeshall II (20) bt Clacton II (3) by 8 wkts.

*Kelvedon & Feering 184 (J Baker 64, S Warner 42, P Ahearn 28, R Measor 5 for 57). Copford 187 for 5 (J Bell 65, K Sargeant 33, C Reid 30, G Northover 20no, E Smith 3 for 38). Copford (20) bt Kelvedon (6) by 5 wkts.

Sudbury II 270 for 8 (W Shropshire 70 ret, J Poulson 63, C Walters 56, T Shahid 4 for 67, J Tooley 3 for 80). *Felixstowe 130 (M Smith 42, R Cresswell 20, J Backler 5 for 29, B Moulton Day 4 for 33). Sudbury II (20) bt Felixstowe (6) by 140 runs.

Halstead II 182 for 5 (P Cooper 89no, S Steel 49, P Gray 4 for 36). *Little Bardfield Village 140 (M Welby 35, D Hymas 26, C Roper 4 for 46). Halstead II (20) bt Bardfield (4) by 42 runs.

Worlington 321 for 3 (J Watson 166, G Ford 118, C Estlea 20no). *Stowmarket 180 (T Madayanake 64, A Hawes 46, J Wright 25, P Marston 5 for 46). Worlington (20) bt Stowmarket (5) by 141 runs.

Mildenhall II 256 for 6 (S Grinling 90, L Turner 63, J Moore 63no). *Bury St Edmunds II 179 for 7 (R Pineo 56, J Beaumont 4 for 30). Mildenhall II (18) bt Bury II (7) by 77 runs.

Division Four

Needham Market 163 (R Hill 65, J Matthews 27, J Wade 22, K Banham 4 for 46, D Shorten 3 for 13). *Copdock & OIs II 167 for 7 (D Shorten 57, J Green 29, G Underwood 24no, J Dye 3 for 34). Copdock II (20) bt Needham Market (6) by 3 wkts.

*Exning II 190 (S Readman 92, O Lawson 46, A Shufflebotham 5 for 45, J Silburn 4 for 42). St Margarets 131 (C Mutton 35, O Lawson 3 for 23, C Annis 3 for 30). Exning II (20) bt St Margarets (7) by 59 runs.

Yoxford 231 for 9 (B Vincent 112, A Cook 25, S Lincoln 24, D Cialini 22, D Hinsley 3 for 52). *Hadleigh II 206 for 9 (R Checketts 54, B Tampion 33, N Abdul 30, I Price 5 for 61). Yoxford (19) bt Hadleigh II (9) by 25 runs.

Mistley II 187 for 7 (M Churchill 48, S Barlow 44, H Parkes 31, D Goff 30, R Southall 4 for 43). *Ipswich II 153 for 9 (C Wright 63, J Scott 23, P Palmer 6 for 35). Mistley II (19) bt Ipswich II (6) by 34 runs.

*Ipswich & East Suffolk II 156 (K Howlett 46, D Allam 29no, P Budd 24, S Whitehart 4 for 50, B Byford 3 for 15). Long Melford 159 for 6 (G Boon 36no, N Wright 31, S Hale 22, M Holt 20no, N Pryke 3 for 34). Long Melford (20) bt IES II (6) by 4 wkts.

Wivenhoe II 177 (J Wiseman 56, O Morgan 43, K Welsh 26, L Bodaragama 25, J Stringer 3 for 32, D Thompson 3 for 33, C Wishlade 3 for 51). *Woolpit II 178 for 5 (A Bullett 80no, M Eeles 36no, J Bradwell 32). Woolpit II (20) bt Wivenhoe II (6) by 5 wkts.

Division Five

*Abberton II 202 (M Johnson 67, S Elson 35, A Trussler 27, J King 4 for 41, T Potter 3 for 48). Kelvedon & Feering II 203 for 3 (R Burt 57, S King 39no, M Wilde 34, D Schofield 29no). Kelvedon II (20) bt Abberton II (6) by 7 wkts.

*Boxted 114 (R Khaira 38, I Evans 24, R Stockdale 4 for 16, S Plant 3 for 39). Frinton II 115 for 6 (J Hall 39, N Patel 24no, I Evans 3 for 20). Frinton II (20) bt Boxted (4) by 4 wkts.

*Earls Colne 102 (J Smith 27, D Harrington 23, J Sambrook 5 for 16). Witham II 106 for 2 (R Rainsley 42no, D Jenkinson 33). Witham II (20) bt Earls Colne (2) by 8 wkts.

Maldon II 192 for 9 (J Ellis 88no, J Raymond 21, S Fox 4 for 49). *Harwich & Dovercourt 193 for 7 (S Fox 45, W Poole 43no, A Bilton 39). Harwich (19) bt Maldon II (7) by 3 wkts.

Great Bromley 182 for 7 (C Perrin 77, R Lawson 52, L Chipchase 4 for 50). *Mildenhall III 185 for 5 (J Giffin 44, R Clark 43, S Hunt 39, L Handy 22no). Mildenhall III (18) bt Gt Bromley (6) by 5 wkts.

Bury St Edmunds III 145 for 9. *Brightlingsea II 146 for 6. Brightlingsea II (19) bt Bury St Edmunds III (5) by 4 wkts.

Division Six

*Braintree II 177 for 6 (R Jones 77, M Fullgrabe 21no, S Fox 3 for 55). Haverhill II 180 for 2 (S Hartshorn 78, P Jones 66). Haverhill II (18) bt Braintree II (5) by 8 wkts.

Melton St Audry’s 249 for 6 (J Lord 124, M Jackson 60). *Copford II 163 for 9 (M Seagrove 43no, W Merry 20, G Lea 3 for 22). Melton St Audry’s II (19) bt Copford II (6) by 86 runs.

*Elmstead Grasshoppers II 154 (J Sheekey 50, S Gregory 25, N Dennis 25, A Gale 4 for 39). Kesgrave 75 (S Read 20, C Green 5 for 14, A Tester 3 for 16). Elmstead II (20) bt Kesgrave (5) by 79 runs.

*Felixstowe Corinthians 150 (J Burrows 27, J Gibbs 26, P Culley 3 for 47). Ipswich III 154 for 7 (J Greig 49, P Culley 41no, N Radford 4 for 35). Ipswich III (20) bt Felixstowe Corinthians (6) by 3 wkts.

*Nacton 97 for 9 (A Brunt 23no, B Glading 21, T Harris 4 for 25). Tuddenham 98 for 7 (D Cross 45no, K Pryke 22). Tuddenham (19) bt Nacton (3) by 3 wkts.

Division Seven

Stowmarket II 179 for 7 (P Holborn 36, D Aldous 36, C Richardson 31, M Fairburn 3 for 40). *Ipswich IV 180 for 5 (P Mobbs 42no, B Connelly 40, C Johnson 33, D Aldous 3 for 47). Ipswich IV (18) bt Stowmarket II (6) by 5 wkts.

Halstead III 113 for 8 (S Tucker 23no, M Maxim 4 for 33). *Long Melford II 114 for 3 (C Cleverley 55, M Underwood 28). Long Melford II (19) bt Halstead III (2) by 7 wkts.

*Sudbury III 172 (J Coone 50, C Cook 37, B Richardson 33, A Clark 3 for 22, J Turner 3 for 31). Mildenhall IV 147 (M Thurston 24, A Francis 20, H Wright 6 for 33). Sudbury III (20) bt Mildenhall IV (7) by 25 runs.

*St Margarets II 180 (P Allen 47, N Schofield 41, A Storey 33, R Walpole 3 for 30, R Walpole 3 for 30, T Bache 3 for 38). Maldon III 73 (M Brooking 26, A McDonald 6 for 21). St Margarets II (20) bt Maldon III (5) by 107 runs.

*East Bergholt II 184 for 6. Felixstowe II 98. East Bergholt II (20) bt Felixstowe II (3) by 86 runs.

Division Eight

Brockley II 64 (N Willis 5 for 15). *Coggeshall III 65 for 1 (D Gibson 34no, R Gray 23no). Coggeshall III (20) bt Brockley II (0) by 9 wkts.

*DBSL 152 for 8 (M Clemence 51, J Rogers 32no, A Rudkin 3 for 57). Harwich & Dovercourt II 99 (A Rudkin 30, B Garnham 3 for 24). DBSL (20) bt Harwich II (4) by 53 runs.

Easton II 183 for 9 (A Bennett 81, J Sayer 40, S Bonvini 4 for 15). *Kelvedon & Feering III 167 (M Pope 31, P Yates 21). Easton II (20) bt Kelvedon III (7) by 16 runs.

*St Osyth 177 (C Vithanage 112, J Handscombe 24, S Starling 3 for 14, W Spain 3 for 54). Tendring 132 (S Starling 42, I Wilks 21, C Vithanage 5 for 32, J Handscombe 3 for 23). St Osyth (20) bt Tendring (7) by 45 runs.

Eye 223. *Witham III 96. Eye (20) bt Witham III (5) by 127 runs.

Division Nine

West Mersea 113 for 9 (J Tilsley 37, L Bruce 36, M Turner 4 for 35, L Kretzmann 3 for 14). *Nowton 114 for 1 (L Kretzmann 52no, S Danson 40no). Nowton (19) bt West Mersea (1) by 9 wkts.

Elveden 143 for 9 (D Rodic 45, S Firman 22, A Smith 3 for 41). *Woodbridge II 146 for 4 (W Nicholls 88, A Barham 33, S Flack 3 for 49). Woodbridge II (19) bt Elveden (4) by 6 wkts.

*Worlington II 370 for 6 (B Bowens 116, J Peachey 85, I Roberts 63, S Smith 33, A Gallop 26). West Bergholt 75 (M Joel 33, B Cole 5 for 20). Worlington II (20) bt West Bergholt (3) by 295 runs.

Division C

Kelvedon & Feering 246 for 8 (S King 65, F Warner 62, C Bennett 32, C Osmond 25, T Humphrey 5 for 40). *Ipswich 114 (L Mair 37, C Wright 22, W Bellamy 5 for 21). Kelvedon (20) bt Ipswich (5) by 132 runs.

Division C Cup

*Clacton 150. Coggeshall 151 for 4. Coggeshall (2) bt Clacton (0) by 6 wkts.

*Mistley 222 (M Funnell 58, J Skeet 38, J Allday 36, J Jackson 32, D Searle 4 for 4). Copdock & OIs 190 (D Searle 59, S Ward 28, A Cherry 24, A Leggett 20, A Mills 5 for 27). Mistley (2) bt Copdock (0) by 32 runs.


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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
04 Sept 2014, 13:03
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04 Sept 2014, 13:03#38
And the magnificent Miller dropped first ball (playing a defensive stroke, not chasing runs) and dropped again with his 9th ball. If the Zimbos weren't such crappy catchers he would have had his second golden duck of the tournament.
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Admit OneClub Pro389 posts
04 Sept 2014, 13:08
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04 Sept 2014, 13:08#39

 

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
11 Sept 2014, 10:25
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11 Sept 2014, 10:25#40
 Hey Saffex, just to help you out. This is the argument/s that you wanted to revisit. I am awaiting your reply/ies.
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