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Ranking of Potential Springbok Flyhalfs

Started by clevermike36 REPLIES669 VIEWS· 15 Dec 2014, 08:25
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Dec 2014, 08:25
#1
15 Dec 2014, 08:25#1

Based on the recent two test series and the performances of flyhalfs in the CC and European Champions  Cup and other NH series - the ranking of the flyhalfs from SA is as follows:-


1   Goosen

2   Pollard

3   Lambie

4   Boshoff

5   Catrakilis

6   Swiel

7   Morne Steyn


Steyn is going backwards fast - in fact he is showing a wide variety of deficiencies - which instead of getting better is getting worse.   

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
15 Dec 2014, 11:02
#2
15 Dec 2014, 11:02#2
 You cannot rank Goosen at no 1 because of his performances in the Rugby Champions Cup. That competition is, according to yourself, below CC standard, remember?
BI
biltongbekClub Pro749 posts
15 Dec 2014, 11:24
#3
15 Dec 2014, 11:24#3
Yes, I don't rank players outside of SA, performing overseas doesn't compare them head to head.  
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Dec 2014, 12:44
#4
15 Dec 2014, 12:44#4
So the only commet of Ceradunce is about Goosen - not about his most admired player Morne Steyn.   
Ceradunce was the great idiot - who wrote about how Goosen is the Racing Metrro Reject and how Racing is looking for a flyhalf to replace S exton.    Those comments still valid - dunce?
BB - this item is to draw out of hiding the shady Morne Steyn supporters.   However - it was not successful and Mozart has fled from the scene and the Troof  Fairy has gone quiet too, while Ceradunce has gone silent on Morne too.  

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
15 Dec 2014, 12:55
#5
15 Dec 2014, 12:55#5
 Yes. They are. Racing Metro are still looking to replace Se xton. I have not gone silent.  I am just no longer interested in your BS. That is all. I have not really had time to watch a lot of rugby lately, TBH. I only saw a part of one of the sevens games and I have not watched any rugby since the test against Wales.


I will probably watch again after this weekend.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Dec 2014, 13:16
#6
15 Dec 2014, 13:16#6
 Dunce
Crap - they took Goosen on cotnract knowing that S exton will be elaving - so they are looking for a flyhalf to back up Goosen - not replace S exton - you bloody idiot.  
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
15 Dec 2014, 15:05
#7
15 Dec 2014, 15:05#7
 And pigs can fly and chickens can swim. 


http://www.planetrugby.co.uk/story/0,25883,3551_9456185,00.html

Castres fly-half Rémi Talès has been linked in the French press with a move to Racing Métro to replace Jonathan Sexton.

Talès, a regular for France, could allegedly earn €400,000 a year in Paris should he decide to leave Castres after four years since joining from La Rochelle.


Racing already have young South African number ten Johan Goosen on their books for next season, along with veteran Benjamin Dambielle, but will look to replace Sexton and possess a large budget available to do so.




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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Dec 2014, 15:32
#8
15 Dec 2014, 15:32#8
 A newspaper report is all that convince the dunce of what is going on.   Castres was atrocious in their games this year in the Cjampuions  Cup series - and so was Tales.  
That makes for interesting evaluation - doffies - get real for a change.
Is S exton injured - why has he not played for Racing Metro since the November tests?  If he is not careful he may end up on the bench  for Racing.   But then you love bench players and make them out to be top notch.    
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
15 Dec 2014, 15:43
#9
15 Dec 2014, 15:43#9
 Correct about Castres this year but last year and last year, when everything was happening, they weren't. 
I know what the story with Se xton is but I cannot tell you because it is a newspaper report as well and you do not like that, except of course newspaper reports that supports anything that you say or believe.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Dec 2014, 15:59
#10
15 Dec 2014, 15:59#10
 S o what is the newspaper story about S exton?  I askd a plain question - is  he injured?  
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
15 Dec 2014, 16:25
#11
15 Dec 2014, 16:25#11
 He is not injured. He and his club decided on a bit of time out after the EOYTs. He will be back this weekend against La Rochelle, I think it is. 
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
15 Dec 2014, 16:50
#12
15 Dec 2014, 16:50#12

My ranking would be:

 

1. Pollard

2. Goosen

3. Lambie

4. Jantjies

5. Boshoff

6. Catrakillis

7. Swiel

8. Coleman

9. Potgieter

10. Cronje

11. Zielinga

 

The young Lions 10 was pretty impressive as well. I would not bother with useless Morne 

GE
generaltitPro3,164 posts
15 Dec 2014, 17:23
#13
15 Dec 2014, 17:23#13
1) Pollard
2) Lambie
3) Goosen
4) Boshoff
5) Catrakillis
6) Swiel
7) Potgieter
8) Coleman
9) Cronje
10) Zielinga
11) Jantjies

This is how I see it now...the order could well change in the not too distant future but with respect it's time for MS to bow out gracefully. He is not the future...there are just too many younger 'uns with scope...some need to prove themselves more and Morne will just be a stumbling block for future developement.





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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Dec 2014, 21:09
#14
15 Dec 2014, 21:09#14
  Ceradunce
"He and his club decided on a bit of time out after the EOYTs."
That is weird.   Sinc the start of the French rugby season at the end of August - S exton played in the following:
Top 14              -     4  gamesChamions Cup   -      2 gamesIreland             -      3 games
In other woords he played 9 games in nearly four months and is now been rested for 3 weeks during three Champions Cup games - coming back to play against the weakish Top 14 side La Rochelle.    I have not seen the matches he played in - but looking at his statistics for the games  he played in for his club - he was not a house on fire at all.     
That ouds to me that he does not show real interest in his club games and consequently not performing up to standard - so he is being played only in games where Racing Metro has an easy chance to win.   
We will see with the Champions Cup games in January whether he will be "given time out"  ag ain.  
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Dec 2014, 21:10
#15
15 Dec 2014, 21:10#15
 Seb
Your ratings are just fine.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
15 Dec 2014, 21:48
#16
15 Dec 2014, 21:48#16
 Seb, agreed with your rankings except for the fact that I would rather play Drosty's 6th XV hooker out of position at 10, ahead of Jantjies.
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biltongbekClub Pro749 posts
15 Dec 2014, 22:05
#17
15 Dec 2014, 22:05#17

 1) Pollard
2) Lambie
3) Goosen
4) Boshoff
5) Catrakillis


No need to look further than those five currently. The rest aren't close to test class,

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
15 Dec 2014, 22:11
#18
15 Dec 2014, 22:11#18
 BB, true, but you can bet your bottom dollar that Morné will be in the mix come RWC.
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BlikkiesPro1,526 posts
15 Dec 2014, 22:41
#19
15 Dec 2014, 22:41#19
Mark my words: Meyer will have Morne often on the bench at least and when the chips are down and the outcome may depend on kicks (penalty and/or drops) he will not hesitate to bring Morne on.  
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generaltitPro3,164 posts
15 Dec 2014, 22:44
#20
15 Dec 2014, 22:44#20
Answer...I'm glad you agree with me BB because I respect you as a very balanced reporter of the game...nobodys' a fundi...Lambie has work to prove but I believe in him...I'm a good judge of character but not an expert in the finesse of rugby.

Elton Jantjies, aka Silky hands impressed me in early stages of his career but the world is very cruel to someone who has lost his father...I never lost my dad at early age but my mom through cancer...set me back a long time...very hard to recover...an old man for a young man is even more devastating... being a mentor of masculine support... huge recovery project...the fact that you are still in the game is a miracle itself...I'm glad that hardass Saffex sees this... that's why I see good points in you, foreign selector in Suffolk...Becs likes you so cannot be such a monster...

Ellton I hope you can bring yourself back, young man, I was also your fan some time back, I like the way you used to play...I've rated you way down but I believe you can change the order...miracles can happen Elton...obstacles are there to challenge...I believe you have the talent, not for the WC but for later, you are still young...challenge Patrick and Handre and the others on the upper side of the list and prove us all wrong...I would love this.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Dec 2014, 05:01
#21
16 Dec 2014, 05:01#21
 Mozart
How do you rank the flyhalfs available?
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
16 Dec 2014, 16:10
#22
16 Dec 2014, 16:10#22

Frans

Pollard

Morne

 

Lambie is a fullback, Goosen may be a fullback  and the rest are below international standard.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Dec 2014, 16:22
#23
16 Dec 2014, 16:22#23
 Mozart
O - please.  Neither Frnsie or Morne have been proper flyhalfs ever and you want them as no 1 and 3.   I was expecting this hence the thread.   Nice amusmenet on a dreary afternoon.   
OV
OvalBallsRookie95 posts
16 Dec 2014, 16:25
#24
16 Dec 2014, 16:25#24
Ranking of people from most to least intelligent in the world. 1st Steven Hawking (or whoever your favorite is), 2nd = ....., 3rd = ....., 7 125 000 000th = dumb@assmike

The positions just preceding dumb@assmike are taken up by those with traumatic brain injury resulting in no cognitive or even autonomic neurological function


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
16 Dec 2014, 16:32
#25
16 Dec 2014, 16:32#25
 Ag Balls, leave Oom Mike alone! Rather look for some other positive way to contribute...or not, but we already have enough Mike haters.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Dec 2014, 16:49
#26
16 Dec 2014, 16:49#26
 DbDraad
It is better to forget about the news Bulloval miskoek.   He is pobviously the new idiot on the site trying to stir up people through insults.   probably a new name for Saipan - die dofste doos around.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Dec 2014, 16:49
#27
16 Dec 2014, 16:49#27
 DbDraad
It is better to forget about the news Bulloval miskoek.   He is obviously the new idiot on the site trying to stir up people through insults.   probably a new name for Saipan - die dofste doos around.
OV
OvalBallsRookie95 posts
16 Dec 2014, 16:55
#28
16 Dec 2014, 16:55#28
@dumbassmike.

Quim face - Did your 'key board' (SIC) cause you to post the same message twice ?
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
16 Dec 2014, 17:50
#29
16 Dec 2014, 17:50#29
Beeno: looks like we have another "multi" on the site,  I am sure you can guess his other ids
OV
OvalBallsRookie95 posts
16 Dec 2014, 20:33
#30
16 Dec 2014, 20:33#30

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
16 Dec 2014, 21:21
#31
16 Dec 2014, 21:21#31
 OvalDoos, welcome to the madhouse...will call you ovalballs as soon as you prove you have apair.
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
16 Dec 2014, 21:29
#32
16 Dec 2014, 21:29#32
 
OvalBalls
 
Status: Ref 
Posts: 13RE: Ranking of Potential Springbok Flyhalfs
December 16, 2014, 16:55:34@dumbassmike. 

Quim face - Did your 'key board' (SIC) cause you to post the same message twice ?


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How is this? Being pedantic about Ou Maaikie's spelling of the word "keyboard" and then using the term "(sic)" wrongly. It should be in lower case.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
16 Dec 2014, 21:32
#33
16 Dec 2014, 21:32#33
 Vlag, the guy is here to stir and provoke,  let him have his fun and see if he will make it past Krismis.
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OvalBallsRookie95 posts
16 Dec 2014, 22:32
#34
16 Dec 2014, 22:32#34
@Seriouslydim

I put 'SIC' in caps for a reason labia lips

@Draadtrek

You can call me whatever you want p0esneus
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
16 Dec 2014, 23:22
#35
16 Dec 2014, 23:22#35
 Thanks for the heads up and happy Christmas to you!!!
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
17 Dec 2014, 01:41
#36
17 Dec 2014, 01:41#36
  
OvalBalls
 
Status: Orange peeler 
Posts: 21RE: Ranking of Potential Springbok Flyhalfs
December 16, 2014, 22:32:05@Seriouslydim

I put 'SIC' in caps for a reason labia lips

@Draadtrek

You can call me whatever you want p0esneus


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 I know you did...... because you thought that that was the way that it is done Puisiebal.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
17 Dec 2014, 09:36
#37
17 Dec 2014, 09:36#37
 Draad we have a goof ball here in OB 
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