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Rassie Erasmus gets my Bad Sport of the Year….again

Started by Mozart30 REPLIES1,331 VIEWS· 02 Dec 2022, 17:06
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Dec 2022, 17:06
#1
02 Dec 2022, 17:06#1

Having reached an agreement with World Rugby, he simply ignores that and attacks the refs again. If he wanted to do that he should have had the integrity to reserve that right, even if no agreement was reached. Falls under the heading of my word is my bond.


Then there is his constant undercutting of his appointed head coach. He is in the box, he is out of the box….he is talking to the press. Making all the succession mistakes of a man who never intended to leave. Again if he wanted to do that he should have stayed as coach. What are the odds he has overruled Nienaber many times in his 8 and 5 record. And every key game was lost…..the ABs at home  in what was effectively the  RC decider, Ireland and France.


Never has he ever stepped up and praised Nienaber or criticized himself. Bad Sport of the Year.





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ChippoPro3,372 posts
02 Dec 2022, 18:06
#2
02 Dec 2022, 18:06#2

I'm sure he'll be mortified when he finds this out.

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Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
02 Dec 2022, 18:11
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02 Dec 2022, 18:11#3

Erasmus was fortunate enough to be from a country gullible enough to soak up his self-gratuitous nonsense. However, he is so out of touch with reality that he is eroding even that. The bottom line is the team, and he has coached them to the point of mediocrity. The Louis Van Gaal of rugby union. 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Dec 2022, 18:14
#4
02 Dec 2022, 18:14#4

No I doubt it, Narcissists are rarely mortified.

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MpowerPro5,061 posts
02 Dec 2022, 18:35
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02 Dec 2022, 18:35#5
Well just like this Country, Mediocrity gets celebrated.....Rassie did make our Forwards better, but totally neglected our Attacking side....not to even mention the abysmal player Selections..... It looks like they are trying to adapt and trying to up that side but could have started much sooner......what Coaches like Jones and cheika did, is mention there problems with Reffing and TMO directly @ the press conference.....Rassie says nothing at a press conference but then behind there backs, attacks them on Social media.....which is a bit two faced if you ask me....most importantly for the Boks is that Rassie keeps his head in the game....leave the Social media Hoo Hah and Focus on our Rugby rather.....Nienhaber is unluckily in that position that although he is head coach, he is still the Fisio in Rassie,s eyes....very much looks like that.....there is plenty work to be done on the Rugby front and no more drama is needed in the Boks set up.....let's hope Rassie can actually start doing his work and Focus on that only.
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 Dec 2022, 19:11
#6
02 Dec 2022, 19:11#6
I support Rassie 100% am sick and tired of this sub standard officiating Using the usual channels highlights nothing. Rassie’s actions serve to highlight the issues Good on him. Speaks his mind I respect that as I follow the same philosophy
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Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
02 Dec 2022, 19:33
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02 Dec 2022, 19:33#7

Erasmus didn't make a single player better. He changed the emphasis. Coetzee implemented a game plan that challenged and stretched the players, and there were signs of acclimatization. Erasmus controlled with a heavily scripted game that took decision making out of the player's hands, and concealed our weaker defenders to a degree by playing the game high up the pitch and taking the battle to the air and set pieces. The likes of Steph and Damian were still making the same mistakes, Kolisi was still useless. If anything, our skills look worse, our fitness is worse, our ability to unlock even basic defensive scenarios is very much worse. Erasmus creates a sideshow to distract from the problems at hand. Saffers fall for it all the time. 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 Dec 2022, 19:35
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02 Dec 2022, 19:35#8
Doos bwhaaaahaaaa
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 Dec 2022, 20:00
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02 Dec 2022, 20:00#9

If everybody behaved like Harrassmiss we would have  chaos. He only gets away with it because other coaches of major teams don’t follow his example.

Doesn’t it bother you Dave that he never supports his appointed coach who fixed our defence at the WC.

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MpowerPro5,061 posts
02 Dec 2022, 20:17
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02 Dec 2022, 20:17#10

I think this was Rassie,s plan from the beginning.....get his foot in the Door as head coach, save the sinking Ship.....get the Director of Rugby job and Appoint  Jacques which is not a top Head coach and easy to control.....where does that leave Nienhaber? Surely he can not be happy with being Rassie,s bitch forever?

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Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
02 Dec 2022, 20:21
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02 Dec 2022, 20:21#11

Did he save the sinking ship? He was crowned king after achieving a less successful season than his predecessor. He gets let off the hook in SA because he ticks all the political boxes, and Saffers enjoy his brand of kak praat. Erasmus successfully inserted racism into the mix last year to depower the refs, to make them scared to exert too much force against us. Erasmus is trying to control the referees like he controls Bok rugby. He is in essence Kim Jong Erasmusaeyo.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
02 Dec 2022, 22:25
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02 Dec 2022, 22:25#12
Wrong Moz we have O’Gara saying his bit , we’ve seen Eddie say his bit Rassie does not participate in interviews so when would he be praising his best mate Neinaber? Of late Neinaber has deserved little praise To be honest none of us know the dynamics of the Rassie/Neinaber set up. We know they are great mates and go a long way back You don’t like Rassie, I think he is brilliant both as coach and person. I love the way he comes across, is just a really nice guy and the players love him. We can’t say the same for Jake and Eddie - both are complete pricks What Rassie did with the Boks when he took over is unrivalled in SA rugby history. He was amazing I don’t like that he stopped the hands on and gave that role to Neinaber. Our rugby has suffered as a result. Rassie has that history of leaving when he has turned a side around I suspect he feels that right now he needs to rescue the Boks again and we have seen signs of that on the EOYT We should have won all 4 but for some pathetic officiating and a red card I can see Rassie taking this Bok side to another WC victory
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Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
02 Dec 2022, 22:46
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02 Dec 2022, 22:46#13

We know the dynamics very well. Nienaber is the defensive guru who is the foundation of the Bok model (as stated by Erasmus himself, Saffex). Erasmus is the dictator who lives off of his work. Like Muir when using Campese to promote himself for promotion to the Bok setup. 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Dec 2022, 00:44
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03 Dec 2022, 00:44#14

Unrivaled? You can’t be serious. He started with a 7 and 7 year. And since the WC he has had two 8 and 5  years. Excluding the WC year he is 23 and 17. And that’s great?

His whole tenure rests on the WC year…where we faced Japan, Wales and England in  the knockouts.

We needed to confirm that year by winning the full RC. So the whole thing looks a little unresolved and mediocre. That with the best talent pool we have had since 2007

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
03 Dec 2022, 01:21
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03 Dec 2022, 01:21#15
Yes unrivalled no Bok coach comes close Taking the side from 7 to 1, winning the WC, the RC and the Lions series No Bok coach has ever had that kind of success within 18 months His WC was more difficult than Jakes, so throwing in who we played carries zero weight. We did not only win that final we thrashed England Post the Lions series we lost Rassie and our results under Neinaber fell apart Rassie can only truely be judged on the results he was personally involved, not the ones that Neinaber took charge Sure Rassie had an input in his absence but that does not equate to physical presence. Rassie’s strength is player management, being in their company, inspiring them, motivating them. It’s his strength - Neinaber does not have that Rassie is a brilliant coach - Chasing the Sun showed us that, his players said as much. Same can be said of his coaching team at Munster - they are on record saying the guy is a coaching genius. Go listen to the interviews with the Irish assistant coaches
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Dec 2022, 03:56
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03 Dec 2022, 03:56#16

Mozart criticized officiating yet if Erasmus does the same he goes ballistic.   Typical of a rugby idiot like Mozart in his hate-filled BS campaign against Erasmus.    I wonder whether he has reached the 5 000 postings on Erasmus yet?   Must be extremely close by now if not already past that figure.             

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 Dec 2022, 05:14
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03 Dec 2022, 05:14#17

More than 5000 posts on Harrassmiss? I doubt it. But how did you manage to make 47000 posts without ever saying anything of interest? 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
03 Dec 2022, 07:29
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03 Dec 2022, 07:29#18

Infighting...the South African way...

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
03 Dec 2022, 08:05
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03 Dec 2022, 08:05#19

"More than 5000 posts on Harrassmiss? I doubt it. But how did you manage to make 47000 posts without ever saying anything of interest?"

I actually find what ou Maaik says to be very interesting . . . in a bewildered, pitying and morbid kind of way, but interesting nonetheless. Astonishing in fact.

Ou Maaik is the stupidest individual I have encountered in my lifetime. I know many think I exaggerate but I'm not kidding. Stupid in such a fundamental way that you can actually picture the two brain cells arguing with each other . . . "yuo ar&e beh ave like a defishint Demmerkrat" . . . "no, yu a//+ BSter waht are allso a idoit!".

Put it this way . . . ou Maaik makes Baboon-ou seem coherent and intelligent by comparison.

"Interesting" is not an adjective I would personally use to describe ou Maaik, but he's definitely not uninteresting!

If you want uninteresting, bland, dull, boring, monotonous and soporific then look no further than your aspiring Alpha Gimp, Squeaky Toy.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
03 Dec 2022, 08:36
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03 Dec 2022, 08:36#20

And you are the most endearing poster ever. Humble and polite, the epitome of gentlemanly behavior. This board is honored to have the benefit of your ethereal wisdom.

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Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
03 Dec 2022, 10:22
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03 Dec 2022, 10:22#21

I preferred him when he had his knockers out.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
03 Dec 2022, 13:48
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03 Dec 2022, 13:48#22

Ja, the Mrs. Searle mask was less pretentious and not as miserable...despite the vuil bek.

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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
21 Dec 2022, 18:49
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21 Dec 2022, 18:49#23

Now Wayne Barnes is getting death threats. 

Rassie fanned the flames, now this. 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Dec 2022, 07:32
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22 Dec 2022, 07:32#24

You lot who criticize Erasmus have been writing criticism of referees on site as if your life depends on it and it was covered in the media as well.    If Erasmus said anything about it he is condemned by you lot of hypocrites and is total BS.

Mozart must have written a third of his total contributions on site in attacking Erasmus, Du Toit and De Allende and I gain the impression that he is totally deranged in that respect he has a mania about those three people.    That is assertions and a case of mental derangement and he should   consult a shrink about.    

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Dec 2022, 07:32
#25
22 Dec 2022, 07:32#25

You lot who criticize Erasmus have been writing criticism of referees on site as if your life depends on it and it was covered in the media as well.    If Erasmus said anything about it he is condemned by you lot of hypocrites and is total BS.

Mozart must have written a third of his total contributions on site in attacking Erasmus, Du Toit and De Allende and I gain the impression that he is totally deranged in that respect he has a mania about those three people.    That is assertions and a case of mental derangement and he should   consult a shrink about.    

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Dec 2022, 17:24
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22 Dec 2022, 17:24#26

No I’m simply taking a stand on Harrassmiss that reflects the old South African values…..good sportsmanship, transparency, respect for your direct reports and faithfulness to one’s word.

I know many of you see him in the light of a small man taking on a draconian bureaucracy, but actually the bureaucracy has bent over backwards to accommodate him. Even the press has given him a relatively light pasting.

Harrassmiss has had one of the best talent pools in Bok history, a relatively weak AB phase, total support from the country….and still he has produced nothing to be proud of since the WC. In his own best interests he should be critically reviewed.

I don’t care a jot for the overweight, narcissist but I do care that he is blowing a potentially significant moment in our rugby history.

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Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
22 Dec 2022, 19:27
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22 Dec 2022, 19:27#27

There was an opportunity to dominate the most vulnerable top tier in world rugby, but that opportunity is quickly fading. Arrogance of the rugby public to by Erasmus' tripe. 

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becsPro4,378 posts
23 Dec 2022, 02:26
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23 Dec 2022, 02:26#28

Wayne Barnes’ wife also had threats of a particular kind made at her following the Rassie situation. 

Pretty distasteful all round. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
25 Dec 2022, 11:14
#29
25 Dec 2022, 11:14#29

Watch the Rassie documentary...it will confirm a lot of the speculation,  but also gives some insight wrt the tbimking behind things...there's nothing about the tapes, but it illustrates where he comes from...please endure the cringeworthy start...it gets better.

Nothing about the videos in the documentary,  but the videos are not the real problem, the poor reaction by fans is the real problem and that's not Rassie's fault.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
25 Dec 2022, 11:45
#30
25 Dec 2022, 11:45#30
Draad, a vuil bek online tells you that it’s a choep stop bek IRL. Saffex is just an angry little man that fails to express himself. He uses words in the way that kids use tantrums.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
25 Dec 2022, 13:41
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25 Dec 2022, 13:41#31

There's a few angry grunts of different shapes and sizes...Saffex is one of the nicer ones around...can be full of crap, but without the mean streak....we all have our moments.

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