PSDT has never been out of his depth........I'd rather have 19 year old RG Snyman in my Bok side than the utterly useless Matfield who no longer makes the Saints bench given how many games he has cost them.
In his last game for Saints I counted 4 possessions conceded by the old man......no wonder they lost patience with the old fart......they were of course stupid enough to sign him in the first place.
Apparently he takes lost of notes!!!
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Jan 27, 2016, 06:14Great coaches have character. To me Rassie is always running away from the task rather than embracing it....and Mallett is the critics critic. I would take Coetzee in a heart beat vs these two show ponies.
Any solid arguments from either yourself, Beeno or ou Maaikie that you would bracket in with anything in the video that I posted?
The floor is yours.
Oops and who was wrong 100% on the Erasmus issue, Who would have gone with Coetzee in a flash?
Now we have a case where we had the great Meyer - always supported by Mozart - and Flashguy Coetzee Mozart's new favourite after the Japan disaster was the final nail in the coffin of Meyer, So Mozart's selection of Coetzee turned out to be a worse disaster than Meyer was as Coach,
Now we have to be reminded about the attacks o n Erasmus by especially Mozart and AO when rumors started doing he rounds that the President and CEO of SA Rugby went to Irelamd to plead with Erasmus to come back to SA and try and save SA Rugby from the ashes Meyer and Coetzee left it in.
The howls before the appointment of Erasmus was equaled by the screams at the end of 2018 when the critics did not want to see positive signs emerging from the side, They did not want to admit that for the first time in a decade the Springboks won an away test against the AB's. And then the chorus re-opened when Erasmus had the audacity to send his first choice 15 players to New Zealand two weeks before the start of the RC in 2019,
After winning the RC trophy the real jokes emerged - the performance of the 2015 Springboks - who lost al three RC tests - were better than the Cup winners in 2019. Anyway - the situation for the Erasmus haters got worse when the Springboks beat the much improved Japan side 41-7 in the RC warm-up game before - and then the final hurrah for them when the AB's beat the Springboks in the first game in the RWC, They obviously forgot that in 2015 the Springboks lost their first game in the RWC against - wait for it - Japan,
Anyway lets forget the doomsday stories after the semi-final after Wales managed to draw level with the Springboks a couple of times and in the end lost the game. AO was too big a coward to write anything on site, So the Springboks demolished the England team and the jeremiads started immediately - the Springboks lost against the All Blacks in the series, so the AB's are the best team in the world. The joke was that the English beat the AB's easily in the semi and the Springboks demolishing the English team meant nothing. Even the NZ commentators said the AB's would have had no chance in beating the Springboks in the final.
Round about the week before the WC final it came out that it would be Erasmus last game as coach and that a new Head coach would be appointed soon, That was enough to set off the drama queens in full cry, The more they were told that Erasmus was appointed as SARU Director of Rugby and never as Head Coach and that he took on the Head Coach duties only as an interim measure until a new Head Coach would be appointed - the cowardice stories flooded the site again.
It got even worse when after the public outcry Erasmus assured the Springbok supporters that he will have a more hands-on approach as Director of Rugby and especially when it came out that SARU will appoint the coaches Erasmus identified and that one lasted for near to two months, Since then we had a new story - Erasmus was useless as a coach - Nienaber was the real reason for winning the WC and the only players our great rugby geniuses praised on site were Beast and Mostert.
How can our local rugby experts get it so wrong, 2019 was a disaster for them and then some worse news followed - their preferred coaches got fired by their clubs for gross incompetence,
So what are they going to come up with next???
Ceradyne
Thanks for the question. There are some things that I genuinely had doubts about, One of thee major ones was the selection of a 6-2 combination for the bench - the so-called "bomb squad", For the rest I was critical of the amount of kicking by especially Faf and it was an eye-opener for me to see what came out in the two videos of Squidge.
I genuinely supported Erasmus's team selections and realized how he assigned special roles to players - but at the same time used the natural talent of players and fine-tuned it and the ro les he assigned to Du Toit and De Allende,
I also read some articles in which the Munster players commented on Erasmus as coach in the time he was there, They found something new in his approach - probably his studious approach to the game - but they found him to be a top class coach, I also was not surprised when James O'Connor said positive things about Erasmus as a coach.
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Ceradyne
Thanks for the question. There are some things that I genuinely had doubts about, One of thee major ones was the selection of a 6-2 combination for the bench - the so-called "bomb squad", “
OK. So you do admit that that could not have been one of your arguments that would have convinced me about Rassie. I’m looking for your arguments that “could be bracketed in with those in the video” that would have convinced me. This one contradicts the video. And it is a big one because the bomb squad was one of Rassie’s core strategies.
“ For the rest I was critical of the amount of kicking by especially Faf and it was an eye-opener for me to see what came out in the two videos of Squidge. “
Granted. As was I. So, you agree with me that you could not have convinced me on that argument either.
“ I genuinely supported Erasmus's team selections and realized how he assigned special roles to players “
I‘m not saying that you are lying, and I could not have witnessed you physically posting that, but it is hard to picture you doing it with a straight face and without having your fingers crossed behind your back.
Shall we discuss your blind support for Jantjies, Mostert and Frans Steyn being included in the squad?
Windpomp you are being a dumbass.
I have been touting Rassie from his captaining and coaching Free State and arguing for his coaching ability in probably hundreds of posts.
You say nobody gave you sufficient evidence to get you to change your mind about Rassie!!
What a silly argument. The evidence to see Rassie was good was right before your eyes! Why didn't YOU see it like others did.
Are you dependent on others having to. c onvince you when you yourself can make a judgement.
Fact is Windpomp you got it all wrong. Just admit it and move on and stop blaming others for your huge error in judgement.
Mike and I and even Sharktwit got it right. The frot shark followed my advise and got it right. That should have been a lesson for him. Bwahahahaha!!!
Ou dense Denise said - he (Rassie) is just another pretender - next.
Dense probably thought he sounded very cool very decisive, the last word in the debate. Move on guys I dense have got this covered.
It's hilarious and makes the board such a funny place!!!!
"What a silly argument. The evidence to see Rassie was good was right before your eyes! Why didn't YOU see it like others did. "
Go on then. Give me examples of where, before the start of RWC2019, you provided any solid evidence of Rassie's brilliance. Other than your usual breathless adjectives like "he's a brilliant rugby rugby brain". Or he has an eye for detail - I have fokol idea of what detail he has an eye for, but I read somewhere that he has an eye for detail. Or he won the CC with the Free State. Or the was the brain behind Coetzee when he was still with the Stormers. He was responsible every time when the Stormers did OK but the times they fucked up. No, that had nothing to do with him. Those rested squarely on Coetzee alone. etc, etc, etc.
Where did you explain away his inclusion of the list of players that I have given time and again?
Go and look at your thread about how you changed your mind. I posted a summary as to what you are up too.
Hilarious stuff from the Windpomper!
OK. I’m on my way there. You coming along?
I doubted Rassie after the Welsh WC game.
At the time, I said, I'm starting to doubt him and the permanent kicking game plan, but I do hope that there is a switch in tactics on the cards for the final...
So my doubt was padded with a prediction which turned out to be not too far off.
Eddie Jones was completely blindsided by the Boks suddenly spreading the ball early and it helped us get early momentum and ultimately win the game.
For me, let's give the Jake Whites and Rassies their credit because hell, a WC final win isn't something that comes along every day.
Ceradyne
I was talking about the play-off games - not the squad selection. To be quite frank I would not have picked Jantjies and Steyn and had reservations about Mostert as well - especially after his poor performances in the RC. But there were reasons those three were picked and in the end all three were basically dirt trackers starting against weaker teams and Steyn and Mostert playing from the bench.
You would make a spin doctor dizzy.
Eddie Jones wasn't blindsided by anything. The Boks were very predictable from beginning to end. To think that Jones saw something different or something he couldn't comprehend is deluded and insullting to the man. The game is won and lost in the trenches. The Boks beat the Poms in the set pieces and collisions. It's that simple. The was no tactical variation or new plays or patterns. Throwing the ball wide of a three man pod is something the Boks have done a lot of under Rassie. Think back to the EOYT of 2018, or the second Argie test of 2018, or the 2019 RC, they even did it in the WC. Nothing new. Dour Stompie phase play made succesful with a couple moments of individual magic by two wings.
"The subtle change in kicking from 9 to 10 in the final threw the poor Poms - beautifully subtle but so effective"
That's true, but the Poms should have figured it out the second time they got suckered...and probably did...it was our defense trench warfare and intensity that got to the Poms. We absorbed the pressure and waited for the opportunities.
I think the Poms were over confident and the few subtle difference in our play unsettled them...as did our impenetrable defense....and losing Sinckler....it wasn't their day...the Boks made sure of it.
What still amazes me is that after being he first team ever to win the RC and WC in the same year the nonsense spouted by some members about Erasmus continued, The only thing they come up with is that Erasmus played no role in winning the two trophies - it was all done by Proudfoot and Nienaber,
That being said they forgot that Erasmus was the key person involved with the selection of the coaching staff and that it was he who brought in three key appointees - Nienaber, Felix Jones and Walters. Nienaber was for near to 15 years working with Erasmus and they are not only close friends - Nienaber admitted openly that in that period he learned all he knows about rugby coaching from Erasmus,
Jones had one thing in common with Erasmus and that was his studious approach to the game. If one watch carefully you would notice how many times during games the two high-fived each other when one of the obvious strategies were implemented faultlessly, What was also new is that Jones was appointed permanently as part of the coaching squad with a special assignment of keeping a close check of Springboks and potential Springboks playing club rugby in Europe, He also has to advise them on new strategies developed by the coaching staff, Walters - the fitness coach has now left the Springboks and was big a loss as Proudfoot,
The losses of Proudfoot and Walters were no real surprises. They showed real class as part if the Erasmus coaching set-up - and their market value increased drastically, Proudfoot was always a good forwards coach, but under Coetzee he did himself no favors - under Erasmus he reached a new height in coaching achievements.
One can only believe that the real reason for their dislike is that Erasmus showed that their first choice coaches - Meyer and Coetzee - were inadequate and Erasmus showed why they were not up to standard. Some members refused to ever admit that they were wrong about things and Erasmus is proof of their main idiocies spouted on site for years, .
Aug,
Not being prepared and not being able to comprehend ain't the same thing.
