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Rassie, never surrender, South Africa stands with you

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
22 Aug 2021, 20:53
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22 Aug 2021, 20:53#1


Keo is on top form.

Yes we South Africans stand squarely with Rassie. We stand for fair and competent refs.

Those wanting crooked refs can get lost!

Rassie, never surrender to World Rugby’s attempts to bully and bury you. South Africa stands with you, writes Mark Keohane.

Rassie Erasmus goes on trial on the 24th August for a range of charges, among them bringing the game into disrepute and speaking out publicly against the diabolical officiating in the Springboks first Test against the British & Irish Lions.

Erasmus’s disciplinary hearing is a World Rugby hearing. It is an internal process and you can be guaranteed the old boys club will find Erasmus guilty of every charge.

It won’t be a victory but the start of a legal war that the game of rugby needs to once and for all kill off this notion that the match officials are more important than the players to the future of the game.

Players and coaches have always been held accountable for their performance. They either get praised, get axed, cash in or lose contracts because of the application of their ability to their chosen profession.

Professional rugby officials have never similarly been held accountable, consistently protected by the amateur and archaic notion that the referee’s performance and that of the match officials is beyond reproach and that every player, coach and supporter should just be grateful that the match officials were there in time for kick-off.

What antiquated nonsense in a professional environment, in which matches and tournaments and player and coaching careers are influenced because of inferior, questionable and incompetent officiating.

Rugby Australia’s CEO Andy Marinos, of Stormers infamy in leading a strike on the morning of the team’s home Super Rugby semi-final against the Highlanders in 1999 and losing both the strike and match, raged in his defence of Australian referee Nic Berry.

Marinos, the Zimbabwean-born, South African raised Welsh international who now wears Australian gold, has condemned Erasmus.

‘Match officials form the very fabric of our game – simply, the game would not exist without them. As a highly regarded and respected international referee appointed by World Rugby, the attack on Nic’s integrity, character and reputation is unacceptable.’

Wrong Mr Marinos.

What is unacceptable is Berry’s inefficiency in getting 26 decisions wrong in 80 minutes.

What is equally distasteful is Berry’s attack on the integrity of Siya Kolisi in how he interacted with the Springbok captain and how Berry brought the game into disrepute with his sub-standard performance.

Where is the hearing into Berry?

What about his professionalism, or lack thereof, and his influence on the flow of the Test match.

Erasmus’s 62 minute video highlighted everything that was wrong about Berry and the match officials’ performance. Erasmus highlighted the most obvious incidents that the match officials should have seen, given they were looking straight at the moments Erasmus identified.

What has got lost in World Rugby’s temper tantrum in wanting to make an example of Erasmus is that they have conveniently bypassed why Erasmus felt compelled to make a video and send it to World Rugby and to Berry.

World Rugby predictably refused to act on the essence of the video material and instead zoned in on Erasmus. They need to be prepared for a fight that is going to be every bit as intense and dramatic as we saw in the three-Test series.

Erasmus is under investigation and so is SA Rugby as the employer of Erasmus. Both the individual and the organization have indicated they won’t take a step back come the hearings.

The Erasmus hearing is a defining moment in player and coaches rights to fairness in a game of rugby.

It is definitive to the game of rugby being true to a professional code and wanting the most accurate decisions made.

There will always be human error, but with one referee, two touchline assistants, a Television Match Official and the luxury of technology and every different type of camera angle, there is no excuse to get 26 decisions wrong in a Test match.

There is also no excuse to get the obvious ones wrong.

World Rugby still governs by committee and rules through agenda-influenced elected officials. It is amateur in structure and amateur in its thinking, especially when it comes to match officials.

These match officials, just like any 18 year-old player and any coach, make a conscious decision to pursue the game of rugby as a profession.

These match officials are not doing anyone a favour by choosing this profession – and they should be rewarded and reprimanded with similar consistency when it comes to their performance.

They cannot continue to be untouchable and a victory for Erasmus and SA Rugby will be a victory for the rights of every professional player and coach.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Aug 2021, 23:41
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22 Aug 2021, 23:41#2

En hoor jy die magtige dreuning…..

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Aug 2021, 00:50
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23 Aug 2021, 00:50#3

William Webb Ellis to Harrassmus:

‘Pick up the ball and kick’

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Aug 2021, 00:57
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23 Aug 2021, 00:57#4

Who is the whore you are referring to Mozart?   Must be somebody you know and is associated  with.  

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Aug 2021, 01:05
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23 Aug 2021, 01:05#5

‘and  are associated with’. If you are going to correct others make sure you aren’t making a fool of yourself in the process,

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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
23 Aug 2021, 01:51
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23 Aug 2021, 01:51#6

It's also about contesting the 50/50 calls. The Lions players were chirping every decision in the warm up games. Getting that vital call in a tight game is what it was about. The All Black's drew the series in 2017 to the Lions with some dubious calls in that last drawn game. 

If they had won they would have laid claim to being the greatest team ever.In 2016 they won every game in the rugby championship with a bonus point to boot.They had also won the World Cup in 2015.

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CanterburyClub Pro160 posts
23 Aug 2021, 07:47
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23 Aug 2021, 07:47#7

Exactly right there.

There were some very poor decisions made in at 3rd test in 2017.

However, the result still stands.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
23 Aug 2021, 08:14
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23 Aug 2021, 08:14#8

"There were some very poor decisions made in at 3rd test in 2017."

Indeed...unacceptable at this level...some basic standard should always be met...4 officials should always get the basics right...not talking about the close calls...there will always be 50/50's...it's the 90/10's and 100/0's they still get wrong that's a big concern. 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Aug 2021, 09:42
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23 Aug 2021, 09:42#9

Thanks for correcting your mistake  - I was just responding in the same way you normally do. .   

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kingcornPro3,695 posts
23 Aug 2021, 10:28
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23 Aug 2021, 10:28#10

There are a of theatrics making its way into rugby. I agree that way to many players try to talk to the ref. I just remembered once that I lost my team 20 meters for only asking the ref why it was a penalty. Back then, eve a question lost you 10 meters. If the refs want to assert themselves, start penalising the players who are chirping. 

Rugby has a lot  of laws, the man in the middle has a lot of pressure on him, but he  also have the tools to make sure the player respect him so that he can  get on with the job. 

So start using it, don't let the captain speak to you, it is in the refs power to use the back chat. 

On top of that, how much coaching goes on during the game where ref are telling  players,  hands of, go back, you are off side. 

However,  this I blame on world rugby as they want to see more ball in play and reduce stop starts. 

I'm behind Rassie  on this one. But also how many times did teams  have deal with BIAS refs. Don't forget how poor the ref was in NZ  vs France final back in  2011. France should have won that game. In the same WC, SA got blown of the field by several dodgy calls. 

So yes, if it is being fair then why not. I would welcome freeken Tesla robot at this stage so that we can have a fair game. 

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
23 Aug 2021, 10:51
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23 Aug 2021, 10:51#11
"I would welcome freeken Tesla robot at this stage so that we can have a fair game."
Ref-bashing crybabies like Baboon-ou would be whining about the robot's software being hacked.
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kingcornPro3,695 posts
23 Aug 2021, 15:41
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23 Aug 2021, 15:41#12

hahaha, i think the team with the best hackers will win then

KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
23 Aug 2021, 15:42
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23 Aug 2021, 15:42#13


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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
23 Aug 2021, 16:39
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23 Aug 2021, 16:39#14

"hahaha, i think the team with the best hackers will win then"

Then South Africa is screwed. By the next five years, the only hackers SA will have will be armed with machetes. 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Aug 2021, 19:40
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23 Aug 2021, 19:40#15

The Meyer and Cotzee duds caused SA rugby to be screwed and with Erasmus in charge the chances are a glorious reign by the Springboks  until at least  2027

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Aug 2021, 19:40
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23 Aug 2021, 19:40#16


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becsPro4,378 posts
24 Aug 2021, 01:04
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24 Aug 2021, 01:04#17

Well, it’s the Rassie day of reckoning tomorrow, isn’t it ? We’ll have to see what World Rugby decide is fair punishment for all of his shenanigans….

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Aug 2021, 03:41
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24 Aug 2021, 03:41#18

I wouldn’t punish him ….just describe what he has done, the effect on the rugby community, the disservice to referees. And then I’d wait for him to implode. Making this man a martyr would probably be the thing he wants most.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Aug 2021, 04:30
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24 Aug 2021, 04:30#19

And reappoint your pervious favorites Meyer and Coetzee - stupid says as stupid does in your case.  

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 Aug 2021, 09:53
#20
24 Aug 2021, 09:53#20

Rassie is a flipping hero. The first coach to show in detail biased reffing.

Mozzzz is now sinking to the level of poor rooitwit in supporting crooked refs. 

This blight on the game has gone on for decades. So congrats to Rassie for making such an outstanding video. 

South Africans and I suspect many elsewhere will support his calls for fairness..

Fake Bok supporters will side with the Rassie bashers. They are livid with the Boks success and what this Bok side is doing to improve race relations. 

They are livid as the Boks are now 5 points ahead of the wee abs in the world rankings. 

They are livid because they cant stand Bok success. In particular they are frothing at the mouth because Rassie has succeeded again and again and made them look like abject jackasses. 

All that is left for them is to hope for a Bok defeat as soon as possible to ease their pain.

But nothing will ever take away the R C win, the RWC win and the Lions series win. 

Nor the achievement of being World coach of the year. Team of the year, player of the year number one ranked team in the world. 

They know they look like clowns and they hate the man who brought them down to this sorry state.  They rage on obsessed with Rassie and denigrating every achievement. 

A more pathetic sight would be hard to find. 

Bwahahahahahaha. 





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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
24 Aug 2021, 10:22
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24 Aug 2021, 10:22#21

Josè is a narcissist who feeds on the work of others to glorify himself. Thankfully for him, Nienaber is the very submissive person that he is. Bringing the humility to the partnership that Josè lacks. Josè clearly understands people will enough to be quite manipulative. He is now also the first coach in world rugby to pull the race card to pressure refs into giving a free pass. The Springboks should not only be banned from world rugby because of their racist politics in sport, but because they are threatening to contaminate world rugby. 

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