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RASSIEGATE: LET'S GET READY TO RUMBLE!

Started by Beeno10 REPLIES959 VIEWS· 29 Aug 2021, 21:09
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No date has been set and World Rugby is still waiting for some of the submissions.

However, it is building up to be an unprecedented legal battle between World Rugby and Rassie Erasmus/SA Rugby.

Contrary to reports last week, Erasmus and SA Rugby’s misconduct hearing has not commenced and the parties involved are yet to be given official dates.

Dominic Rumbles, the head of World Rugby’s media department, confirmed to @rugby365com that no date has been set.

“[We are] waiting for all submissions to me made,” Rumbles said.

“[We] should be able to publish an update early next week.”

RugbyPass reports that rumours that it had already begun behind closed doors were met with bemusement within World Rugby.


The Springboks revealed this past Thursday that South Africa’s Director of Rugby, Erasmus, did not travel with the team to Brisbane – as they bid to claim back the Rugby Championship.

“Rassie has decided to remain in South Africa, for now, to allow the focus around the team to remain on the Rugby Championship and the team itself so that they can perform to the best of their ability on the field,” said South Africa head coach Jacques Nienaber.

“He will continue to play an active role in our team and coaches meetings throughout the tour, and schedule permitting, he may join us later on.”

Erasmus may join the team for the latter stages, confirmed SA Rugby.


The 48-year-old Erasmus and his union face charges relating to a breach of Regulation 18  (Misconduct and Code of Conduct) for comments made after the first Test loss to the British and Irish Lions.

World Rugby has said they are concerned with the ‘extensive and direct nature’ of his comments in the now-infamous 62-minute long video that was released on social media in July, which criticised the performance of matchday referee Nic Berry and his officials.

The list of punishments for Erasmus and SA Rugby if the World Rugby misconduct charge is upheld is extensive.

It is expected that Erasmus will challenge the World Rugby in what could be a Test case for how senior rugby staff behave in relation to contentious on-field decisions.

Erasmus and SA Rugby – who are also charged with misconduct – have been offered significant legal assistance in the form of Marco Masotti, who heads up MVM Holdings, the company that has owned a 51 percent stake in the Durban-based Sharks since January 2021.

Masotti took to social media earlier this month to announce back Erasmus and co: “I have a team of New York lawyers ready to take care of Rassie and SA Rugby. Let us put World Rugby on trial…”, tweeted Masotti on August 4.

Erasmus has however engaged legal representation from Frikkie Erasmus, who told South African media that the charges brought against his client are “broad” and “comprehensive.”

For their part, it is understood that World Rugby are eager to throw the book at Erasmus, whose actions were heavily criticized across the sport.

And there’s pressure on them to do so.

According to reports in South Africa, Rugby Australia has joined England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales in lobbying the sport’s governing body ahead of the hearing.

Critics feel Erasmus cleaning rugby’s dirty laundry on social media was a step too far and could potentially open the door to further public rebukes of referees by coaches.

“You think ‘the mark has been over-stepped here’ and worry that it becomes not just about sporting decision-making but something that might have an impact on people’s lives and potentially cause wider issues,” former Premiership referee David Rose told RugbyPass.

“There has been an erosion in the acceptance that mistakes will happen; if you have human beings involved, you’re going to have human error and being professional in any walk of life doesn’t mean you make no mistakes.”

Others have praised the maverick South African.

Former Springbok coach Ian McIntosh praised him for confronting World Rugby with their failings.

Speaking in an interview published online by Independent Media, McIntosh claimed: “It is not for me to say whether Rassie used the correct channels but I do feel that something had to be done to gain the attention of the officials because the game has become far too complicated and a stop-start affair.

“It has been spoilt for players, coaches and the spectators. The game has become over-officiated because of too many ‘provisions’ being added each year to the laws. Instead of World Rugby disciplining Rassie, he should be commended and a committee established to revise the laws which are too many, contradictory, and in some cases, nonsensical.”


WHAT BLOGGERS SAY:


WPForever53 minutes agoJan, "Rugby Pass" is a poor excuse for a Rugby journalist site. Some of the rubbish on that site it's just not true.ReplyShare00Monk1 hour agosurely there needs to be an open review process for the referreing post match. there needs to be recourse for blatant cheating by a referee. (not that I believe that is what happened BILv1. I think it was incompetence) but if you are able to present a case to say. eg. out of 30 penalties, more than 50% were in error or only 1 team was penalised for offside, then surely the result should/could be overturned. also taking into consideration the scorelibe and clock. it would remove disasters like bryce. and allow for the odd mistake to happen. but not for a complete lopsided performance.ReplyShare00GFO4 hours agoThis has nothing to do with Rassie's video and it has to do with him exposing the pathetic standard or bias of referees and the utter arrogance/corruption of WR's old boys club. They and their puppet referees don't like it that they have been exposed clear for everyone to see.
Rasta6 hours agoRassie knows he will get punished no matter right or wrong, but lets be clear, Gatland started this messy war of words when he severely influenced the TMO in that first test. Gatland should be on trial too.ReplyShare10Wayneo5 hours agoBetter yet, put WR on trial in a real court of law for not putting Gatland on trial.ReplyShare00Goonshow2 hours agoInteresting that one very key fact seems to get forgotten (or simply omitted) by the media in all of this:
RE did indeed try to go through the proper channels, repeatedly.
It was only WR's inefficiencies and self-important inertia that led to the video being released. IF (a) Berry had responded and engaged properly or (b) WR had - given the time-urgent nature of the request - bothered to respond on the Monday, none of this would ever have occurred
ReplyShare00KiwiTroll2 hours agoRassie screwed up the protocol of when and how you can do what . He got it wrong in that regard . He actually says it in his video.ReplyShare00GreatSharksays4 hours agoSomething needs to be done about Marius’ level of reffing. Maybe he can skip SARU and go straight to WR for a hearing.ReplyShare00Loftus1 hour agoBulls have had problems with Marius and Jacobs' refereeing for years now.
It's just funny that every match we lose, 1 of those 2 are the referee...
But, 1 of them will get the CC final....ReplyShare00Wayneo6 hours agoThe old boys club going to do what the old boys club does and get it's kangaroo court to punish Rassie and put him back in his box. This has always been the outcome from WR disciplinary proceedings and as sure as death and taxes it will be the same again.

Well, up until that 1 time somebody fights back, & I mean really and truly fights back. This WR disciplinary thing is a farce and they know it, we know it & SA Rugby & Rassie know it.

I for one will not be surprised if SA Rugby & Rassie just go through the motions, receive the inevitable kangaroo court guilty judgement and then take them to a real court of law.

Any lawyer worth a dime out there knows there is just so much wrong with this whole issue.

If it were me, I would not stop at just taking WR to to a real court of law. No way Jose! I would have taken Marco Masotti up on his offer. All those instances of foul play that went unpunished, I believe the lawyers would use some big words in their descriptions like "gross negligence" or "willful misconduct" but I would leave that up to them.At some point all rugby supporters will realise that WR allowing referees free reign to interpret the laws different boils down to one thing and one thing only. Match fixing.

Time to take the "GREEN PILL" ...

ETC ETC PERSONALLY I HOPE THIS GOES TO A COURT OF LAW.GO RASSIE AND HIS LEAL TEAM. LETS HAVE IT ALL OUT IN THE OPEN.


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