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Rassies big ego, can't handle criticism from Nick Mallet

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KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
12 Feb 2023, 13:22
#1
12 Feb 2023, 13:22#1

Not sure if it is the media that has drummed up the dra but then you see Rassie plastering his response all over social media.


Rassie has a completely different view of a director of rugby role Vs that of Mallet. 


I'm leaning more towards what Mallet is saying. I honestly cant see what Rassie has done for all of SA rugby. He is too married to the Springbok and not spending time on sorting out our coaches, player development etc. 


Also spends too much time winding up the refs. 


Probably also why no other decent coach will be able to work with him as he is an autocrat  

MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
12 Feb 2023, 15:05
#2
12 Feb 2023, 15:05#2
Well Mallet makes good points….especially that our backline mostly runs sideways….Rassies answer is that he has a program fast tracking Elite Black Players, not saying that isn’t good, but is that suppose to fix all SA Rugby Problems ?? He does ask Mallet though, if he does have help, it would be much appreciated…..I do not believe that Rassie would take Help from Mallet…..it’s Rassie,s Way, or the Highway….Believing that he can do both Jobs ( HC + Director ) is proving to be bit of a handful…..but Ok, he does say that his priority is the Boks and Winning….let’s see if it can all come Together leading up to WC…Like R&N always say in interviews that we very close to Peaking….on the other hand, it all falls apart.
DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
12 Feb 2023, 15:11
#3
12 Feb 2023, 15:11#3

I don't see any sign of a peak. I see some of our key foes improving. 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
12 Feb 2023, 17:39
#4
12 Feb 2023, 17:39#4

‘I would suggest [that you] hang close to that truth because currently, you are far away from that truth and you’re missing the ball with quite a distance.’

Harrassmiss accusing Mallett of lying. 

BO
bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
12 Feb 2023, 21:47
#5
12 Feb 2023, 21:47#5

https://www.planetrugby.com/news/south-africa-rassie-erasmus-hits-back-at-nick-mallett-over-television-criticism

Johannesburg - Rassie Erasmus had another social media rant as he took to Twitter lambasting former Springboks coach Nick Mallet asking him not to talk "sh*t" to people as a pundit on the TV show Final Whistle.

Mallett was with former Bok attack coach Swys de Bruin, former Bok hooker Hanyani Shimange and host Owen Nkumane analysing last weekend's rugby matches.

In a video posted at 04:47 on Saturday morning, Erasmus says he 'can't sleep' because of what was said on the show by Mallet this past Sunday.

The World Cup-winning coach was referring to Mallett calling him (Erasmus) out saying the latter must do his job properly as the South African Rugby Union's director of rugby.

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MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
13 Feb 2023, 00:12
#6
13 Feb 2023, 00:12#6

Another view from Keohane, Mike’s favorite when he supported Harrassmiss:


Rassie Erasmus taking shots at Nick Mallett in public detracts from a healthy debate about the state of South African rugby, according to MARK KEOHANE.

Erasmus took to Twitter on Saturday morning to blast Mallett – who the former played under when the Springboks won the Tri Nations in 1998 – for comments made in the latest episode of SuperSport’s panel show, Final Whistle.

When asked by host Owen Nkumane about the state of coaching in South Africa, Mallett levelled criticism at Erasmus, suggesting SA Rugby’s director of rugby was not doing his job.

ICYMI – Rassie returns to Twitter with Mallett rant

In his TimesLIVE column, Keohane applauded Mallett’s view on the sport in the Republic, and suggested Erasmus should have met with his fellow former Bok coach for “a breakfast or a workshop” rather than attack him on social media.

“What differentiates Mallett is that he is Nick Mallett. He has big opinions and they are ones I want to hear as a rugby enthusiast and also as a rugby reporter,” he writes.

“They’re educational and they also add to the discussion and debate that should always be a part of South African rugby.

“Defence is the first point of attack, and I felt Erasmus’ early morning Twitter rant in response to Mallett’s criticism of his role as director of rugby was one that was delivered very defensively.

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“Equally, I found it educational because of what Erasmus had to say about all the respective national programmes he had put in place at SA Rugby. But he picked the wrong forum and time of the morning to respond.

“His retort to Mallett was spoken as if he remains the Bok coach. The two roles were separated on [Jacques] Nienaber’s appointment and when Mallett spoke out on Erasmus failing, it was in his role as director of rugby.

“Rassie’s social media retort does not add to the story telling. It detracts from it. It comes across as whinging more than winning.”

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
13 Feb 2023, 00:33
#7
13 Feb 2023, 00:33#7
Rassie is spot on in respect of calling out Mallett as Mallett is speaking a load of shit Good on Rassie
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
13 Feb 2023, 06:19
#8
13 Feb 2023, 06:19#8

The equation for Harrassmiss is now  established. He has turned off enough rugby administrators, media heads and fans that the Boks have  to win or do exceptionally well at the WC. Failing that the criticism is going to be vicious….a quarter final exit for example will have to be totally owned by the coach. I anticipate that  Nienaber’s degrees of freedom will be about zero come the WC. Harrassmiss will own it all…the glory or the infamy.

KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
13 Feb 2023, 11:41
#9
13 Feb 2023, 11:41#9

I wonder if Rassie is suffering from an inferiority complex given that Mallet was his coach at the boks and well like by the general public.

Mallet is someone opinion a value highly.

SA are their own worst enemy. White, Mallet and Rassie paths all crossed and all 3 were Springbok coaches with good success, not great, but good. Back in 1997 Mallet was our first truly successful coach. He spend 6 years living in France playing in D2 as a player coach in his 30s, he then came to SA and coaches a local club team. False bay. From there he got a Boland coaching gig and produced some fantastic results for them. Then we had the moving of deck chairs in a sinking titanic. We a new coach every other month. Mallet got the book job and we were finally able to put a decent springbok performance together. Tri nations and 17 match winning streak. 

At the same time, Jake was the under 21 coach and also become a technical analyst for the boks to help them on their way. Rassie was a regular in the bok setup and Mallet really liked him as a player, but if I look at old footage of how Rassie played, I would say he was average. 

We all know the rest.

But, I recall Mallet had a stint as Stade coach and then Italy before returning to South Africa to become the director of rugby. At that time Rassie was the coach of the cheetahs. 

The Stormers managed to get Rassie to come and coach them. I think Mallet was at the Stormers for 3 years where he put a youth structure in place. The very same structure that produced the current crop of bok players.

Rassie was a coach first and later the position was vacated by Mallet. Coetzee became coach and Rassie became the director of rugby after Mallet left. 

So looking at their history, I think Rassie knows Mallet is the superior coach and he is trying to provide positive criticism. Shut up Rassie, look after Rugby and allow other coaches to be successful. 

Mallet is also highly educated, went to Oxford etc. 

Why on earth would not be humble and listen to the man. 

Sounds like Rassie is very immature

But, just imagine if we can have a brain trust of Swys, Mallet, White, Rassie, Nienaber and Proudfoot to help SA coaches and the style we want to play. 

We would be unbeatable 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
13 Feb 2023, 12:18
#10
13 Feb 2023, 12:18#10
Wrong Moz the fans at home love Rassie and he rightly does not give a shit what the ignorant administrators think He had every right to climb into Mallett who was spouting off without any facts to back him up
MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
13 Feb 2023, 14:56
#11
13 Feb 2023, 14:56#11
Mallet makes Valid points and Rassie is getting sour because he knows very well that it’s valid Points…..the Problem is clearly that Rassie is trying to Micro Manage everything within SA Rugby and that is just not achievable….Nienhaber is supposed to be his right hand man, that he knows already for a very long time….but the trust in him is very low….why did he appoint Jaques in the first place??…because he is easily controlled…..Rassie is not thinking straight and like Moz said , that because he is turning his back on Guys like Mallet, Swys etc. all the blame will come down on him alone….if he is not careful, he will be relegated to go Coach Rugby in Iraq.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
13 Feb 2023, 21:05
#12
13 Feb 2023, 21:05#12
Bullshit as Rassie pointed out to Mallet he was speaking utter shit - it’s probably why we have probably not seen a response from Mallett as he knows he was wrong making shit up It’s obvious why Rassie appointed Neinaber - Neinaber is Rassie’s puppet Rassie did not want to lose control of his coaching duties, so the only way he could hold onto the coaching and be the director was appointing the guy that relied on his support and who he moulded He wanted his right hand man doing the job in order to ensure continuity. A different coach would not have agreed to Rassie still playing an integral part in the coaching. Neinaber is no coach he is just Rassie’s puppet
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
13 Feb 2023, 22:59
#13
13 Feb 2023, 22:59#13
Rassie is about as good a coach as he was a player.
MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
13 Feb 2023, 23:15
#14
13 Feb 2023, 23:15#14
We know nienhaber is a good defence coach….but besides that you can’t really say what he is capable of….his never been allowed to come out under The forceful shadow of Rassie….like you say a “ Puppet “
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
14 Feb 2023, 00:11
#15
14 Feb 2023, 00:11#15
Rassie is the best coach the Boks have had since readmission, only Mallett could compete none of the others come close
DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
14 Feb 2023, 00:26
#16
14 Feb 2023, 00:26#16

What coaching has Erasmus done? He is a user. He finds submissive weaker personalities and rides them for all they are worth. He is manipulative and deceitful, and self-serving. 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
14 Feb 2023, 00:54
#17
14 Feb 2023, 00:54#17
He turned the Cheetahs, Stormers and Munster around - Fact He took the Boks from 7 to 1, won the RC, the WC and the Lions series No Bok coach has ever achieved more within 18 months - Fact Rassie is a phenomenal coach and a brilliant player manager
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
14 Feb 2023, 01:49
#18
14 Feb 2023, 01:49#18

8 and 5. 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
14 Feb 2023, 10:43
#19
14 Feb 2023, 10:43#19
8 and 5?
DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
14 Feb 2023, 11:21
#20
14 Feb 2023, 11:21#20

The Stormers lead the league in defending, but ranked bottom for every attacking statistic each and every year despite having a star studded lineup. This is the blueprint. He won a Currie Cup in 2005 with the Cheetahs. But what did he contribute? Still no evidence of his coaching. Where were the Cheetahs in Super Rugby? Near the bottom of the pile. So we have a Tin Cup, with traditional Cheetah's rugby, and no shows in Super Rugby. What else? Nothing. 2005: 27 tries scored, 43 conceded. 2007, one place lower on the log. 

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
14 Feb 2023, 11:41
#21
14 Feb 2023, 11:41#21

I think 8 is Moffie's IQ and 5 is his emotional age.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
14 Feb 2023, 12:56
#22
14 Feb 2023, 12:56#22
Moz seems to think it makes no difference whether Rassie is physically present as the coach or not
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
14 Feb 2023, 12:58
#23
14 Feb 2023, 12:58#23
Doos I’ll say it one more time Rassie turned the Cheetahs, Stormers, Munster and the Boks around and that’s a FACT
DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
14 Feb 2023, 13:04
#24
14 Feb 2023, 13:04#24

Nienaber turned the Stormers around, but when they couldn't add anything to attack, they tackled themselves into injuries. There was no turnaround at the Cheetahs, not until Rassie had long gone. What turnaround was there at the Boks? They've consistently been a 5th to 6th quality team under Erasmus in the cooshiest era in test rugby history! Souring the Bok brand and bringing the game into disrepute. You are delusional Saffex, but also funny, so that's a positive. 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
14 Feb 2023, 17:53
#25
14 Feb 2023, 17:53#25
Neinaber turned the Stormers around bwhaaahaaaaa Fuck you could not make this shit up The physio turned the Stormers around Doos - just give up man - you are too stupid for words - seriously But more than anything you are a blatant liar
DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
14 Feb 2023, 17:59
#26
14 Feb 2023, 17:59#26

What was the defining aspect of that Stormers side? Defence. Lets take the 2010 season where they reached the final. They ranked bottom half of the log for tries scored. That's the peak of his Stormers reign. The man Erasmus called a defensive guru and the foremost expert on defence, Nienaber, was the core, as always. You lose these debates easily Saffex because you leap into them with absolutely no information whatsoever. You just make it all up depending on how you feel. 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
14 Feb 2023, 20:47
#27
14 Feb 2023, 20:47#27
If you are stupid enough to believe that the Stormers made the finals thanks to defence alone you are more rugby ignorant than I know you are. Equally you have to be profoundly stupid to attach the amount of credit to Neinaber as you do We know the reason for that - you like Moz can’t stand Rassie so you ignorantly credit the physio Neinaber who know let’s face it is a nobody - never coached a side in his life
DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
14 Feb 2023, 20:50
#28
14 Feb 2023, 20:50#28

Yes they did. They ranked bottom 5 for attack stats, but they only conceded 17 tries which was comfortably the best in the competition. They lead most defensive stats those years. Their tackle rate and efficiency was very high, and a defining aspect of their play. They attacked with defence and concentrated on set pieces and kicks. Saffex, please have the good sense to stay down. Never monkey around with Lemur, you'll only drive yourself bananas. 

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
14 Feb 2023, 20:54
#29
14 Feb 2023, 20:54#29

And they lost 2 matches the whole season...one being the farce fonal in Soweto...solod performance,  but tripped over tha last hurdle.

DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
14 Feb 2023, 21:36
#30
14 Feb 2023, 21:36#30

They lost 4 games that season, 5 if you include the final. The Bulls lost 3. 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
15 Feb 2023, 00:48
#31
15 Feb 2023, 00:48#31
Rassie turned the Stormers around and that’s a fact just like he did the Boks taking them to number 1
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Feb 2023, 04:39
#32
15 Feb 2023, 04:39#32

We have a few idiots that always discarded Erasmus as Director of Rugby and seems to think they know more about rugby than anyone else.    Whenever they can find the remotest issue - they go on the attack.   Erasmus is bad - those same idiots do it week after week - but when SA rugby under Meyer and Coetzee was self-destructing - they rarely criticized those two.   Example - through four years of Meyer BSting - Mozart find somehow one thread in which he criticized Meyer in a period lasting 4 years.   Why should that be?

       

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
15 Feb 2023, 07:26
#33
15 Feb 2023, 07:26#33

They lost 4 games that season, 5 if you include the final. The Bulls lost 3. 

Sorry, I was mistaken...it was under Alistair a year or what later that we had that good season and then lost in the semi. 

BO
bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
15 Feb 2023, 07:39
#34
15 Feb 2023, 07:39#34

wot season?

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
15 Feb 2023, 07:52
#35
15 Feb 2023, 07:52#35

2012, 1 st on log, played 16, won 14.

BO
bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
15 Feb 2023, 08:10
#36
15 Feb 2023, 08:10#36

Ffs, that's about our best ever, am i right or am i right ?

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
15 Feb 2023, 08:28
#37
15 Feb 2023, 08:28#37
That was so close! Darn Sharks rained on our parade on Newlands nogal....we came close a few times, but last year our luck held...at last!!!
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Feb 2023, 19:09
#38
15 Feb 2023, 19:09#38

l'Grande Merda

Erasmus was nowhere near the Stormers in 2010 - he was the SARU Director of Rugby at that stage.   He left the head coaching job early in 2009 before the Super Rugby series to become Stormers Director of Rugby of the WP.    The Head Coach was Coetzee.   Initially there were close co-operation between Erasmus and Coetzee - but that relationship frayed in 2010 and Coetzee remained as Head Coach.   

At that stage the Director of Rugby had no involvement in team selection and coaching and the co-operation frayed because Coetzee wanted to be ruler in all respects and ignored advice given to him.

From then on with Coetzee as Head Coach the Stormers went backward year after year.           

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Feb 2023, 19:09
#39
15 Feb 2023, 19:09#39


DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
15 Feb 2023, 19:57
#40
15 Feb 2023, 19:57#40

Erasmus coached the Stormers from 2008 to 2011. 

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