RC team of the tournament

Etzebeth was a crucial Bok, Limp wasn't. Kolisi is there because he is a black captain. We don't have a scrumhalf of the caliber of White. Kwagga a n d Etzebeth are our candidates. 

The only joke is that the Boks still field Limp. The most unathletic lock I have ever seen. 

Barrett made a major contribution to the ABs win with his bust upfield that led to a try….Lomp’s contributions were ordinary.

I am not very impressed with Barrat as a lock, and he is even worse as a loose forward. 
He may get better over time, but perhaps more of a placeholder type of player until someone better comes along. An in-between style of player that is not really very powerful or athletic. 

Lood improved the lineouts as he got onto the pitch. Matfield said Lood is very good at calling the lineouts having worked with him at the Bulls.

Whitlock is very good and he will probably make it to the next world cup. His experience is key for this tight 5, which has a front row that is not world-beaters.  His presence in the lineouts was missed without him calling the lineout. 

Whitlock rated Matfield well, and he has been the heir apparent for top spot in the number 5 jersey. Although his contribution outside of first phase play has declined over time, he is critical on 1st phase possession.

Lood was a no-show everywhere aside from the lineout. There was nothing he did that others couldn't do better. He is a liability. Underpowered, passive, without skill, unintelligent, immobile, often flat-footed. Very vulnerable on defence and absolutely lost at sea when the game heats up. Lood is unworthy to wear the green and gold. Unfortunately, we have too many. Low and behold, look at the end product. 

I know this will make O&O start shrieking about blasphemy, but Lood was our best lock in the RC by some distance.

Shark you keep saying Lomp improved the lineouts…..here again are the facts:

Lions 3….Boks 12/14….Lions 11/12…..Lomp starts….Lions plus 1

Lions 2 Boks 10/12 …Lions 8/11…..Mostert starts…Boks  plus 1

Lions 1 Boks 4/4….Lions 14/16….Mostert starts…..Boks plus 2

Lunacy dated for 2014 still holds true according to the crazies on site.    Once they start their BS it never ends.   This is what the site became because of two delusional members and is not worth reading at all.   

Are all balls in line-outs thrown at the same player all the time or is that craziness only being spouted by a  BSter of note hence the kind of statement only he would come up with?     He lives in the past where  the no 5 lock called the line-outs that is definitely not the present situation anymore. 

World Rugby's team of the tournament also included Lood de Jager except they chose Scott Barrett to partner him rather than Brodie Retallick.

It's only on this forum that the fervent and zealous acolytes of the Church of Eben have Etzebeth ahead of Lood. Everyone else either knows something about rugby or is capable of overcoming their bias when sufficient evidence is presented.

World Rugby's Rugby Championship team of the tournament

15 Jordie Barrett (NZ), 14 Andrew Kellaway (AUS), 13 Lukhanyo Am (RSA), 12 Samu Kerevi (AUS), 11 Makazole Mapimpi (RSA), 10 Quade Cooper (AUS), 9 Tate McDermott (AUS), 8 Ardie Savea (NZ), 7 Michael Hooper (AUS), 6 Akira Ioane (NZ), 5 Lood de Jager (RSA), 4 Brodie Retallick (NZ), 3 Taniela Tupou (AUS), 2 Codie Taylor (NZ), 1Steven Kitshoff (RSA)

 Not sure why coaches get it so wrong, I had a chat with Jake about Jacques Cronje who was in his squad at the time....remember him? Absolutely useless, anyway that was two years before the WC, Jake liked him but I was glad to see that he eventually dropped him long before the WC. Point is coaches get it wrong as well.

Etzebeth does all the hard work in the rucks and mauls while Lomp loafs at the back. The man is walking on the park most of the time. Better than Dud Toit in the lineouts, but nowhere near as skilled as Mostert. And bog ordinary as a ball carrier and defender.

If Mostert and Dud Toit have big engines (I’ll concede that much)…..Lomp has a three cylinder sewing machine.

Lomp has a three cylinder sewing machine

I don't think I can top that! 

Limp soaks up contact on defence because of his location on breakdown defence. But, look at the tackles on film reviews, they are not very impressive. We fold like a deck of cards in general play because we are littered with weak defenders. Etzebeth grabs the ball and literally runs through a solid defensive line making metres. You'll never seen Steph or Limp do that. As for lineouts, Etzebeth has double the lineout steals, is a leader in the team for turnovers won and has good production elsewhere. Etzebeth is a key cog in the machine. When Limp and Stephanie are gone, you only notice by the increased production of the replacement. Limp, PTSD and Dumbian are merely bodies in a jersey, not rugby players. Limp has to be the worst athlete I have seen in the game since 2010 Januarie, maybe even worse. 

@Mozart, when Lood was on the park the lineouts were better. It was clean ball, and not just to the front of the lineout. This allowed the maul to get going.

Although in saying that, Bongi who is usually a great thrower has not been good in that department this year. When Marx got onto the field, the lineouts also improved. With Lood and Marx on the pitch, the Bok lineout became dominant again.

The lineouts have generally improved in the 2nd half of each game.
In many tests this year the Boks have started games throwing to the number 2 jumper, the number four lock. 

So if you rely on the fact that these pundits chose Lomp….do you agree with them  that Etzebeth shouldn’t be in the team of the tournament?

Shark that’s nonsense, nobody delivers faster cleaner ball than Mostert. He is also far more likely to make a big lineout steal.

Mostert had the second most lineout steals in Super Rugby from 2015 to 2020. He made a crucial steal in the deciding Lions test. He is our best lineout forward in the middle/back of the lineout by far.

If we had hookers that could throw accurately to the back he’d be a weapon there.

Any of our players can defend in channel 1. Wider out Mostert is more agile than Lomp or Dud…and he has much better instincts. He plays to the ball. A bit like Schalk Burger he is always in frame when something crucial is happening.

So Kwagga who you also didn’t rate because of physicality, is now preferred. ironical huh? I see ESPN has rated Kwagga our most influential Bok of the series…bit of egg old chap, dripping into your beard.

A physical liability….and Harrassmiss missed that….we keep going round in your contradictory circle. Harrassmiss is the best coach in  the known universe…he chose Mostert.. ..ergo Mostert has to be a contributor….but Mostert in your view is a physical liability….ergo Harrassmiss is not the best coach in the known universe?

The accusations fly in the face of facts. The same people who cannot reference one item to support any aspect of PTSD, Limp or Dumbian's game are telling us it's a "fact" that Mostert is a physical liability, also with no references whatsoever . Where have I heard this narrative before? 

The Georgians dominated the Boks at the contact point all game. It was in fact a feature of the Bok's season. I dont recall the Mostert having specific trouble, but will review it. Leverage will be taken into consideration. Overall, Mostert was solid. Until you cease with this Limp and PTSD worship you don't have a lef to stand on. 

Mostert is strong enough. It's floppsy and mopsy you should worry about. 

Who needs a lock er flank who gets tossed around like a weed by a wing….and gets hurt again. Blow hard and Dud Toit goes down with an injury. Same with Lomp. RG is more durable but occasionally incinerates himself.

Thank heavens for Mostert.

The most embarrassing thing I have literally ever seen was Lood trying to tackle Tupou in 2019, missing and landing on his face. He looks like Hermon Munster out there, such is his clumsy lack of mobility. The second most embarrassing would be PTSD rushing out of the line, taking out a random All Black and leaving our defence for dead, in a World Cup showdown! It's like his brain literally went offline for a few minutes.